Black Caps tour of India - 2026
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@mohikamo said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
T20 is a bit of fun, but cant take it seriously.
Keep thinking about how Richards would have gone in T20 . . . and Lance Cairns!A no limit barrage of short pitched very fast bowling aimed at the head (with no helmet), ala Windies 70s/80s, would sort out all those cocky ass T20 batters!
Such a batting aura for someone who averaged 16 in both forms of the game internationally. But as you allude to, he got it from his ability to smash massive sixes before they became such a common thing.
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@mohikamo said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@MN5
Yep, Lance would be perfect for T20.It's a hard one to judge. Sure, he could hit the ball a long way and was a powerful bloke, but there were quite a few failures on his part too. And most of the 6's that I recall were leg side, front foot wallaps. We will never know if he had the hand eye coordination to develop other shots.
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Lance would've won every golf driving comp he entered, some with just one swing, he could hit a ball a very, very long way.
Batting failures dont matter in T20, sall about strike rate.
Make a couple of additions to his batting game and he'd be fine, not just fine, f'n dynamic, and so would Viv. -
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
They also played in the golden age for fast bowling. The Aussies had Lillee and Thomo, we had Paddles, India had Kapil Dev, and the Windies had some decent guys too
No one got a test triple ton from 1974 until 1990. That says it all for how tough the 80s was in terms of batting.
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@canefan said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
They also played in the golden age for fast bowling. The Aussies had Lillee and Thomo, we had Paddles, India had Kapil Dev, and the Windies had some decent guys too
Missed out the Pakistani's too.
And back then, there was a lot less protection then there is now for batsmen.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@mohikamo said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@MN5
Yep, Lance would be perfect for T20.It's a hard one to judge. Sure, he could hit the ball a long way and was a powerful bloke, but there were quite a few failures on his part too. And most of the 6's that I recall were leg side, front foot wallaps. We will never know if he had the hand eye coordination to develop other shots.
I think he had a pretty agricultural technique but aside from immense strength he must have had a pretty good eye to hit some of those sixes he struck off Lillee and co at the MCG. These days I expect he would be able to practice full time and develop a wider range of shots. Guys like Botham and Richards would be superstars obviously. Someone like Ian Smith too had an amazing strike rate for that era. Imagine him with the bats they use today.
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@Biorealism said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@mohikamo said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@MN5
Yep, Lance would be perfect for T20.It's a hard one to judge. Sure, he could hit the ball a long way and was a powerful bloke, but there were quite a few failures on his part too. And most of the 6's that I recall were leg side, front foot wallaps. We will never know if he had the hand eye coordination to develop other shots.
I think he had a pretty agricultural technique but aside from immense strength he must have had a pretty good eye to hit some of those sixes he struck off Lillee and co at the MCG. These days I expect he would be able to practice full time and develop a wider range of shots. Guys like Botham and Richards would be superstars obviously. Someone like Ian Smith too had an amazing strike rate for that era. Imagine him with the bats they use today.
It always amazed me that Beefy never got an ODI ton or five for. I would have thought that form of the game was tailor made for him.
Richards averaged 47 in ODIs in a very tough era. He'd be over 60 in both forms today. I have no doubt about that. An absolute monster at the crease.
Lance Cairns was a strange cricketer, his bowling action was pretty fucked up but he did the job.
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But if I don't hear about viv Richards or beefy Botham twice a day they might get forgotten
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One of those quirks of cricket, where we end up chatting about everything but the game under our noses.
On the tour itself, I'll admit to having checked out of the T20's a bit. I'll be genuinely surprised to wake up to an NZC app alert that we've won over there in this format.
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I recall around 84/85 seeing Lance Cairns playing a textbook perfect square drive all along the ground through point for 4 at Eden Park and some sections of the crowd booing him for trying to play like a batsman instead of slogging sixes.
Simpler times…
As for this T20 series; the next two games serve as reintegration warmups for our preferred XI now they’re all finally on deck. Best they be ramping up the performance and ensuing contest (with Jamieson and Win-A-Wish left on the sideline) -
@Donsteppa said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
One of those quirks of cricket, where we end up chatting about everything but the game under our noses.
On the tour itself, I'll admit to having checked out of the T20's a bit. I'll be genuinely surprised to wake up to an NZC app alert that we've won over there in this format.
Is that timing? What time is it playing in NZ? Can you catch the end of the game at a reasonable time (e.g., over breakfast?)