Black Caps tour of India - 2026
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@nzzp said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@Sprinko 1 over for 17.
Not the worst figures. But when the best is 1 for 28 off two, you're royally fucked
Chapman is a good player. He's not the problem in this side. Indian cricket is focused on t20 and it's paying off big-time
Yup, T20 has been around for about 20 years now meaning there’s a generation of cricketers especially in India who are growing up purely playing that form of the game.
Some of their batting is unreal, 14 ball 50s, strike rates over 300.. -
@Virgil said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@nzzp said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@Sprinko 1 over for 17.
Not the worst figures. But when the best is 1 for 28 off two, you're royally fucked
Chapman is a good player. He's not the problem in this side. Indian cricket is focused on t20 and it's paying off big-time
Yup, T20 has been around for about 20 years now meaning there’s a generation of cricketers especially in India who are growing up purely playing that form of the game.
Some of their batting is unreal, 14 ball 50s, strike rates over 300..Bigger middles in the bat and smaller boundaries are not a good thing overall. I miss the balance between bat and ball. The days where guys getting over a run a ball was impressive. Innings by Viv Richards, Beefy Botham and the like. No top edges for six in those days, they were well earned.
I still remember watching the very first T20 match vs Australia in 2005. With the retro outfits, mo's and hairdos it was great fun in a shits and giggles kind of way. Ricky Ponting batted masterfully to get 98 not out off 55. Big hitting from Andrew Symonds too. Their score of 214 was considered ok 10-15 years prior off 50 overs. To get that off TWENTY just seemed unheard of and the Black Caps did okish to get 170 all out ( Jeff Wilson played too !!!! )
I had no idea it would morph into what it has......still very much third in my list of favourite cricket formats. In saying that I'll enjoy the World Cup. NZ are a chance for sure.
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Just on Goldie......
129 first class wickets at 24.13.
1245 first class runs at 21.84
https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/jeff-wilson-38751
My word it's a shame for NZ Cricket that he was an ok Rugby player too.
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Not too fussed about the T20 results, India really are just a T20 specialist team these days. The upside to this is that Indian fans will be super fucking confident going into the T20 WC, so when they inevitably choke in the finals again the crash out from their fans will be beautiful to watch.
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@No-Quarter said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
Not too fussed about the T20 results, India really are just a T20 specialist team these days. The upside to this is that Indian fans will be super fucking confident going into the T20 WC, so when they inevitably choke in the finals again the crash out from their fans will be beautiful to watch.
In the space of a few decades India went from mild mannered old before their time Cricket gentlemen to cocky tattooed little shits ( but my word they can play ). I really hope like anything they bomb out.
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T20 is a bit of fun, but cant take it seriously.
Keep thinking about how Richards would have gone in T20 . . . and Lance Cairns!A no limit barrage of short pitched very fast bowling aimed at the head (with no helmet), ala Windies 70s/80s, would sort out all those cocky ass T20 batters!
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@mohikamo said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
T20 is a bit of fun, but cant take it seriously.
Keep thinking about how Richards would have gone in T20 . . . and Lance Cairns!A no limit barrage of short pitched very fast bowling aimed at the head (with no helmet), ala Windies 70s/80s, would sort out all those cocky ass T20 batters!
Such a batting aura for someone who averaged 16 in both forms of the game internationally. But as you allude to, he got it from his ability to smash massive sixes before they became such a common thing.
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@mohikamo said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@MN5
Yep, Lance would be perfect for T20.It's a hard one to judge. Sure, he could hit the ball a long way and was a powerful bloke, but there were quite a few failures on his part too. And most of the 6's that I recall were leg side, front foot wallaps. We will never know if he had the hand eye coordination to develop other shots.
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Lance would've won every golf driving comp he entered, some with just one swing, he could hit a ball a very, very long way.
Batting failures dont matter in T20, sall about strike rate.
Make a couple of additions to his batting game and he'd be fine, not just fine, f'n dynamic, and so would Viv. -
@canefan said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
They also played in the golden age for fast bowling. The Aussies had Lillee and Thomo, we had Paddles, India had Kapil Dev, and the Windies had some decent guys too
No one got a test triple ton from 1974 until 1990. That says it all for how tough the 80s was in terms of batting.
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@canefan said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
They also played in the golden age for fast bowling. The Aussies had Lillee and Thomo, we had Paddles, India had Kapil Dev, and the Windies had some decent guys too
Missed out the Pakistani's too.
And back then, there was a lot less protection then there is now for batsmen.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@mohikamo said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@MN5
Yep, Lance would be perfect for T20.It's a hard one to judge. Sure, he could hit the ball a long way and was a powerful bloke, but there were quite a few failures on his part too. And most of the 6's that I recall were leg side, front foot wallaps. We will never know if he had the hand eye coordination to develop other shots.
I think he had a pretty agricultural technique but aside from immense strength he must have had a pretty good eye to hit some of those sixes he struck off Lillee and co at the MCG. These days I expect he would be able to practice full time and develop a wider range of shots. Guys like Botham and Richards would be superstars obviously. Someone like Ian Smith too had an amazing strike rate for that era. Imagine him with the bats they use today.
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@Biorealism said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@mohikamo said in Black Caps tour of India - 2026:
@MN5
Yep, Lance would be perfect for T20.It's a hard one to judge. Sure, he could hit the ball a long way and was a powerful bloke, but there were quite a few failures on his part too. And most of the 6's that I recall were leg side, front foot wallaps. We will never know if he had the hand eye coordination to develop other shots.
I think he had a pretty agricultural technique but aside from immense strength he must have had a pretty good eye to hit some of those sixes he struck off Lillee and co at the MCG. These days I expect he would be able to practice full time and develop a wider range of shots. Guys like Botham and Richards would be superstars obviously. Someone like Ian Smith too had an amazing strike rate for that era. Imagine him with the bats they use today.
It always amazed me that Beefy never got an ODI ton or five for. I would have thought that form of the game was tailor made for him.
Richards averaged 47 in ODIs in a very tough era. He'd be over 60 in both forms today. I have no doubt about that. An absolute monster at the crease.
Lance Cairns was a strange cricketer, his bowling action was pretty fucked up but he did the job.
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But if I don't hear about viv Richards or beefy Botham twice a day they might get forgotten
