All Blacks - New Coach Selection
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Guess its a bit of a chicken and egg situation.
I mean if they felt Razors position was untenable, as it appears, then they would have binned him without looking at other options first.
I guess in theory, they could have sounded JJ and Cotter out before pulling the pin, but then that could then be seen as pre determining the decision and would it fill you full of confidence if you were approached like that while Razor was still in the role?
However you paint it, it doesnt look good, from needing to move Razor along to now needing a new coach.
I think the process post 2019 and 2023 has tainted things somewhat, although hopefully people now see some grown ups have taken control again so that bodes well...hopefully.
You're convincing me to change my mind; you must have experience selling insurance or something.
What they knew: At the end of the day, Joseph should be available.
Therefore: We can - at least - get the coach of the ABXV
If that is the starting point, you can run an open recruitment pretty confident you'll get at least one person who fits the profile.
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Cotter, Rennie & Schmidt were big missed opportunities after Hansen decided to continue after 2017 Lion's tour, back then they were still early 50s and at top of their game, probably would've prevented the team's steady decline between 2017-2021, especially if Schmidt was in a long term backroom role like Smith was.
In 2026 the timing is just unfortunate because all of Rennie, Schmidt, Cotter are in their 60s and are already planning for life beyond coaching in a few years time.
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@restofit said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Cotter, Rennie & Schmidt were big missed opportunities after Hansen decided to continue after 2017 Lion's tour, back then they were still early 50s and at top of their game, probably would've prevented the team's steady decline between 2017-2021, especially if Schmidt was in a long term backroom role like Smith was.
In 2026 the timing is just unfortunate because all of Rennie, Schmidt, Cotter are in their 60s and are already planning for life beyond coaching in a few years time.
Kinda looks like only Vern was available - or did Rennie only sign with Glasgow after Steve decided to stay on (and did Joe extend with Ireland for the same reason)?
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@restofit said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Cotter, Rennie & Schmidt were big missed opportunities after Hansen decided to continue after 2017 Lion's tour, back then they were still early 50s and at top of their game, probably would've prevented the team's steady decline between 2017-2021, especially if Schmidt was in a long term backroom role like Smith was.
In 2026 the timing is just unfortunate because all of Rennie, Schmidt, Cotter are in their 60s and are already planning for life beyond coaching in a few years time.
Schmidt was unavailable in 2019.
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Interesting comment on FB
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@Victor-Meldrew That is interesting although I wonder if the child they have running their social media knows more than whatever all over the place NZH headquarters water cooler talk we get on here.
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Ok.
That's ... interesting
Edit: paywall. Only get headline and couple of paras. Cotter off to Qld
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@booboo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Ok.
That's ... interesting
Edit: paywall. Only get headline and couple of paras. Cotter off to Qld
Last man standing at the moment.
Wonder how much of this is blowback after the shabby way NZR has selected and treated coaches in the last 6-7 years.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@booboo said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Ok.
That's ... interesting
Edit: paywall. Only get headline and couple of paras. Cotter off to Qld
Last man standing at the moment.
Wonder how much of this is blowback after the shabby way NZR has selected and treated coaches in the last 6-7 years.
I would have thought Vern's job at the Blues was safe if he still wanted it
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@sparky Bugger!
I thought he could offer the steel that has been missing.
Who would have predicted 15-20 years ago NZ would struggle to find anyone who actually wants to coach the AB's.
Jamie has the job as he seems the only one who is left with a passport that wants it.
But even he must be thinking his assistant pickings are getting mighty slim.
Offer Rennie whatever he wants to be HC or Ass... -
It's going to be disappointing if we only get one of the coaches we want and a bunch of worthless assistants.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
It's going to be disappointing if we only get one of the coaches we want and a bunch of worthless assistants.
It's not just a dysfunctional coaching set up which is causing problems, it's also a dysfunctional NZR. Things look like being fixed, but there'll be bumps along the way
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