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Been watching the first few overs of NZ u/19s v India.
Are these batsmen the best we have at u/19 Level there techniques are terrible.
They stay crease bound no foot movement or weight transfer towards the ball.
What are they coaching in the youth programmes in NZ.
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@Chris said in Other Cricket:
Been watching the first few overs of NZ u/19s v India.
Are these batsmen the best we have at u/19 Level there techniques are terrible.
They stay crease bound no foot movement or weight transfer towards the ball.
What are they coaching in the youth programmes in NZ.
It is embarrassing to watch.Too much T20 these days. Technique coming secondary these days perhaps?
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@African-Monkey said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
Been watching the first few overs of NZ u/19s v India.
Are these batsmen the best we have at u/19 Level there techniques are terrible.
They stay crease bound no foot movement or weight transfer towards the ball.
What are they coaching in the youth programmes in NZ.
It is embarrassing to watch.Too much T20 these days. Technique coming secondary these days perhaps?
Maybe but there is technique in 20/20 batting I really didn’t see any.
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Had to jump back on here to vent how tf does Kyle Jamieson keep getting selected for T20 cricket - gets slaughtered every time and hands momentum to the opposition.
Not his fault he keeps getting picked, a great lad (from Papatoetoe to boot!) and can be lethal in longer form cricket, but cannot understand the logic in T20 selection. -
@Sprinko said in Other Cricket:
Had to jump back on here to vent how tf does Kyle Jamieson keep getting selected for T20 cricket - gets slaughtered every time and hands momentum to the opposition.
Not his fault he keeps getting picked, a great lad (from Papatoetoe to boot!) and can be lethal in longer form cricket, but cannot understand the logic in T20 selection.In fairness, against india on a bouncy pitch he was a real handful. His display at Eden Park was what got him paid in the IPL ... but it' been downhill since then. If he's not bowling well he seems very hittable.
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@Sprinko said in Other Cricket:
Had to jump back on here to vent how tf does Kyle Jamieson keep getting selected for T20 cricket - gets slaughtered every time and hands momentum to the opposition.
Not his fault he keeps getting picked, a great lad (from Papatoetoe to boot!) and can be lethal in longer form cricket, but cannot understand the logic in T20 selection.Especially when they kept him out of the test team to save him for the limited overs stuff ( where his presence could have ensured a 3-0 series win rather than a 2-0 win ) when every bowler we had broke down.
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@Chris said in Other Cricket:
Been watching the first few overs of NZ u/19s v India.
Are these batsmen the best we have at u/19 Level there techniques are terrible.
They stay crease bound no foot movement or weight transfer towards the ball.
What are they coaching in the youth programmes in NZ.
It is embarrassing to watch.Some general thoughts. The programmes (where they exist) seem to be fairy piecemeal. Outside of the biggest centres there seems to be a bit of a lottery about which coaches a player will encounter (or not) on their development journey.
Also seeing a few players who are (arguably) being taught how to power hit, etc, before they've been taught and absorbed some good batting basics.
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@Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
Been watching the first few overs of NZ u/19s v India.
Are these batsmen the best we have at u/19 Level there techniques are terrible.
They stay crease bound no foot movement or weight transfer towards the ball.
What are they coaching in the youth programmes in NZ.
It is embarrassing to watch.Some general thoughts. The programmes (where they exist) seem to be fairy piecemeal. Outside of the biggest centres there seems to be a bit of a lottery about which coaches a player will encounter (or not) on their development journey.
Also seeing a few players who are (arguably) being taught how to power hit, etc, before they've been taught and absorbed some good batting basics.
From what I saw that makes sense, there was a lack of batting basics.
You need a foundation to power hit effectively . -
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@Bovidae said in Other Cricket:
@Bones said in Other Cricket:
And is Jones the son of Andrew?
No. He is the grandson of Jeremy Coney though.
Still got that Eastbourne link then.
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@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
Been watching the first few overs of NZ u/19s v India.
Are these batsmen the best we have at u/19 Level there techniques are terrible.
They stay crease bound no foot movement or weight transfer towards the ball.
What are they coaching in the youth programmes in NZ.
It is embarrassing to watch.Some general thoughts. The programmes (where they exist) seem to be fairy piecemeal. Outside of the biggest centres there seems to be a bit of a lottery about which coaches a player will encounter (or not) on their development journey.
Also seeing a few players who are (arguably) being taught how to power hit, etc, before they've been taught and absorbed some good batting basics.
From what I saw that makes sense, there was a lack of batting basics.
You need a foundation to power hit effectively .I've been reflecting on some of Justin Langer's laments lately...
... on batting v hitting, especially after a few days at the Hawke's Bay Cricket Camps.
While these days the top level needs both batting and hitting skills, my concern is that some of the kids are being taught sweeps, reverse sweeps, power hitting, and ramp shots (all fine) at some of the pay-for-programmes. But... at a stage when for some of them - their technical answer to a proverbial in-swinging yorker is just to try and hit it less hard.
Sometimes I wonder if some coaching is aimed at them walking out in a T20 tomorrow, based on what everyone is watching on TV, but before they've got a batting base to build from.
U19's at 74/7 as I type... few of them prepared to building an innings and just throwing their hands at the ball.
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Yep he is right I see that over here as parents are wanting their kids to be 20/20 stars that is where the money is
Academies then coach what the parents are looking for.
In the QLd state system I coach in players are selected on technique for the rep sides if you can transfer that in to power hitting you are on top of the list for selection. -
@Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@Donsteppa said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
Been watching the first few overs of NZ u/19s v India.
Are these batsmen the best we have at u/19 Level there techniques are terrible.
They stay crease bound no foot movement or weight transfer towards the ball.
What are they coaching in the youth programmes in NZ.
It is embarrassing to watch.Some general thoughts. The programmes (where they exist) seem to be fairy piecemeal. Outside of the biggest centres there seems to be a bit of a lottery about which coaches a player will encounter (or not) on their development journey.
Also seeing a few players who are (arguably) being taught how to power hit, etc, before they've been taught and absorbed some good batting basics.
From what I saw that makes sense, there was a lack of batting basics.
You need a foundation to power hit effectively .I've been reflecting on some of Justin Langer's laments lately...
... on batting v hitting, especially after a few days at the Hawke's Bay Cricket Camps.
While these days the top level needs both batting and hitting skills, my concern is that some of the kids are being taught sweeps, reverse sweeps, power hitting, and ramp shots (all fine) at some of the pay-for-programmes. But... at a stage when for some of them - their technical answer to a proverbial in-swinging yorker is just to try and hit it less hard.
Sometimes I wonder if some coaching is aimed at them walking out in a T20 tomorrow, based on what everyone is watching on TV, but before they've got a batting base to build from.
U19's at 74/7 as I type... few of them prepared to building an innings and just throwing their hands at the ball.
I think they also are coming up against a higher level of bowling than what they're used to. The Pakistan attack, particularly Subhan, were pretty impressive. I'm not sure why they didn't pick Sanjay and Mann (who has first class half-centuries for ND) as they looked quite composed with the bat the other night. Maybe trying to give most of the squad a game.
