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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    Seems to me there's something rotten at the assistant coach level. I'd also be very surprised if having the Mo at 10 would have helped us play that much better. General skills has deteriorated in the backline, our wingers aren't well-used, midfield is open, and the best loosies combo is anyone's guess.
    I do wonder if Barrett's relatively shy performance as captain led to some team disruption.

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    @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

    Seems to me there's something rotten at the assistant coach level. I'd also be very surprised if having the Mo at 10 would have helped us play that much better. General skills has deteriorated in the backline, our wingers aren't well-used, midfield is open, and the best loosies combo is anyone's guess.
    I do wonder if Barrett's relatively shy performance as captain led to some team disruption.

    Hard disagree with the first bit, the impact of a lack of Mo'unga (and I'm not even really a fan). I think the improvement in Foster's team 'coincided' with him stopping fucking around with Barrett at 10 and putting Mo'unga there full time.
    Of course the same improvement would have been achieved if Robertson had just picked McKenzie every week, so it's hardly an excuse.

    The shit being served up from 10 covers the first 3 of your 2nd points (as well as our shit kicking game), and yes the loosies have been a confused mess throughout.

    Given the dysfunction, I wouldn't imagine it was an easy side to captain. Not many options now who seem untainted and demanding a starting spot: I guess Jordie or Taylor is about as good as it gets.

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      @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

      Seems to me there's something rotten at the assistant coach level. I'd also be very surprised if having the Mo at 10 would have helped us play that much better. General skills has deteriorated in the backline, our wingers aren't well-used, midfield is open, and the best loosies combo is anyone's guess.
      I do wonder if Barrett's relatively shy performance as captain led to some team disruption.

      Hard disagree with the first bit, the impact of a lack of Mo'unga (and I'm not even really a fan). I think the improvement in Foster's team 'coincided' with him stopping fucking around with Barrett at 10 and putting Mo'unga there full time.
      Of course the same improvement would have been achieved if Robertson had just picked McKenzie every week, so it's hardly an excuse.

      The shit being served up from 10 covers the first 3 of your 2nd points (as well as our shit kicking game), and yes the loosies have been a confused mess throughout.

      Given the dysfunction, I wouldn't imagine it was an easy side to captain. Not many options now who seem untainted and demanding a starting spot: I guess Jordie or Taylor is about as good as it gets.

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      @reprobate said in Scott Robertson:

      @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

      Seems to me there's something rotten at the assistant coach level. I'd also be very surprised if having the Mo at 10 would have helped us play that much better. General skills has deteriorated in the backline, our wingers aren't well-used, midfield is open, and the best loosies combo is anyone's guess.
      I do wonder if Barrett's relatively shy performance as captain led to some team disruption.

      Hard disagree with the first bit, the impact of a lack of Mo'unga (and I'm not even really a fan). I think the improvement in Foster's team 'coincided' with him stopping fucking around with Barrett at 10 and putting Mo'unga there full time.
      Of course the same improvement would have been achieved if Robertson had just picked McKenzie every week, so it's hardly an excuse.

      The shit being served up from 10 covers the first 3 of your 2nd points (as well as our shit kicking game), and yes the loosies have been a confused mess throughout.

      Given the dysfunction, I wouldn't imagine it was an easy side to captain. Not many options now who seem untainted and demanding a starting spot: I guess Jordie or Taylor is about as good as it gets.

      Taylor as a bridge Captain for me, then install the future potential captain into the senior group

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        Based on the requirement for applicants to have international experience, I would hazard a guess that's one of the issues identified as a major factor in Robertson's inadequate results and trajectory.

        I could be reading too much into that...

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in Scott Robertson:

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          I’m sorry but that’s an absolutely pathetic reaction and comment. Not a very good coach? No one can question his success at a domestic level. Won a super rugby title in South Africa, undefeated
          super rugby season?

          If you look at the squads he had over the years he was completely responsible for growing most of those players. Completely out coached any super coach he came up against. His game planes against the Blues and Chiefs squads over the past few years completely dismantled them and he was clearly a better coach than McMillan, Crotter, McDonald, Joseph etc.

          These are the same arguments we heard when he was was being fluffed by all and sundry as the Super Coach who sort out all the problems of the Foster years. They were poor arguments then - and now..

          Nah. Prior success is a decent argument and clearly a big positive. It's also clearly not everything, but you are treating it as so irrelevant that you don't even mention it vs his 'perceived charisma and powerpoint', which is if anything more absurd.

          It's easy to say in hindsight that Robertson should not have been selected - but his record of success was a huge positive, it's about all that was actually visible to the punters, and in sharp contrast to Foster's lack of success with the Chiefs.

          The responsibility for assessing the rest lies with the employers, as they are the people who interviewed him and made the decision based on more information. We all know they are/were a shitshow, because they appointed Foster with a shit process, then decided to sack him because we were shit, then didn't follow through because some players who Foster selected told them not to.

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          Prior success is a decent argument and clearly a big positive

          Only up to a point. In business, when you pick a new CEO you equally look at how they handled adversity and different environments and cultures. You look forward, not back.

          It's easy to say in hindsight that Robertson should not have been selected

          Come on, many people were saying at the time that while he was hugely talented, it was simplistic to compare SR success to Test level, it was a big risk and he needed Test experience and should have done time as an Assistant first. (@nzzp , @Kirwan , etc). They were invariably shouted down.

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            GH said Razor needed seasoning overseas but he was ignored. He's been proven correct

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            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

              @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

              Razor's tenure reminds me a lot of Ewen McKenzie's with the Wallabies. McKenzie diverted away from what he'd done so well with the Reds which meant he lost the support of many of those Reds players. The rest then fell like dominos and then everything collapsed towards the end.

              I'm still a bit confused about what happened there. Was reading his and Eddie's analysis of the last French game, and I thought Ewen was more incisive.

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              @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

              @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

              Razor's tenure reminds me a lot of Ewen McKenzie's with the Wallabies. McKenzie diverted away from what he'd done so well with the Reds which meant he lost the support of many of those Reds players. The rest then fell like dominos and then everything collapsed towards the end.

              I'm still a bit confused about what happened there. Was reading his and Eddie's analysis of the last French game, and I thought Ewen was more incisive.

              McKenzie was so focused on not being seen by the players as just a promoted Super Rugby coach that he went away from one of the things that had made him such a strong coach at that level, his relationships with the players. Avoided being matey with the Reds guys which upset them and confused everyone else in the squad - "If the players from your own title-winning team don't like you, why should we?". All slowly collapsed from there.

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                @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                Razor's tenure reminds me a lot of Ewen McKenzie's with the Wallabies. McKenzie diverted away from what he'd done so well with the Reds which meant he lost the support of many of those Reds players. The rest then fell like dominos and then everything collapsed towards the end.

                I'm still a bit confused about what happened there. Was reading his and Eddie's analysis of the last French game, and I thought Ewen was more incisive.

                McKenzie was so focused on not being seen by the players as just a promoted Super Rugby coach that he went away from one of the things that had made him such a strong coach at that level, his relationships with the players. Avoided being matey with the Reds guys which upset them and confused everyone else in the squad - "If the players from your own title-winning team don't like you, why should we?". All slowly collapsed from there.

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                @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                Razor's tenure reminds me a lot of Ewen McKenzie's with the Wallabies. McKenzie diverted away from what he'd done so well with the Reds which meant he lost the support of many of those Reds players. The rest then fell like dominos and then everything collapsed towards the end.

                I'm still a bit confused about what happened there. Was reading his and Eddie's analysis of the last French game, and I thought Ewen was more incisive.

                McKenzie was so focused on not being seen by the players as just a promoted Super Rugby coach that he went away from one of the things that had made him such a strong coach at that level, his relationships with the players. Avoided being matey with the Reds guys which upset them and confused everyone else in the squad - "If the players from your own title-winning team don't like you, why should we?". All slowly collapsed from there.

                I thought McKenzie was just basically shafted by players who didn't want to have rules etc? He was sunk when he stood down the group that hit the piss in London one night. They were out got pretty pissed were introducing one of their fathers (who was there as suoorter) to the locals as Link McKenzie etc, they never forgave him for standing them down I got impression. Can't remember the hooker's name off hand with squad copped shit from other players for being the one who maybe alerted McKenzie. I always thought Micheal Hooper (when he was captain) shafted him in an interview that was about time McKenzie resigned. Hooper was one of the ones who got on piss in London.

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                  @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                  Seems to me there's something rotten at the assistant coach level. I'd also be very surprised if having the Mo at 10 would have helped us play that much better. General skills has deteriorated in the backline, our wingers aren't well-used, midfield is open, and the best loosies combo is anyone's guess.
                  I do wonder if Barrett's relatively shy performance as captain led to some team disruption.

                  Hard disagree with the first bit, the impact of a lack of Mo'unga (and I'm not even really a fan). I think the improvement in Foster's team 'coincided' with him stopping fucking around with Barrett at 10 and putting Mo'unga there full time.
                  Of course the same improvement would have been achieved if Robertson had just picked McKenzie every week, so it's hardly an excuse.

                  The shit being served up from 10 covers the first 3 of your 2nd points (as well as our shit kicking game), and yes the loosies have been a confused mess throughout.

                  Given the dysfunction, I wouldn't imagine it was an easy side to captain. Not many options now who seem untainted and demanding a starting spot: I guess Jordie or Taylor is about as good as it gets.

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                  @reprobate said in Scott Robertson:

                  @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                  Seems to me there's something rotten at the assistant coach level. I'd also be very surprised if having the Mo at 10 would have helped us play that much better. General skills has deteriorated in the backline, our wingers aren't well-used, midfield is open, and the best loosies combo is anyone's guess.
                  I do wonder if Barrett's relatively shy performance as captain led to some team disruption.

                  Hard disagree with the first bit, the impact of a lack of Mo'unga (and I'm not even really a fan).

                  Hard counter-disagreement with your hard disagree based on this:

                  Cantab players who amaze in Super no longer amaze at international level.
                  Not their fault.
                  But Richie was a so-so to good AB 10. He didn't have the same impact at international level and that WASN'T under Razor as AB coach.
                  Almost every player has stagnated (eg Jordan) or remained at the same level (Taylor).
                  I'd agree he could probably have linked and managed better than Barrett but given the last 2 years we are dangeously extrapolating to think he was the answer..
                  The ABs luckily beat England, faced a B or C French team, and showed flashes and fumbles against the other top sides. And against say South Africa or a full-strength England or France no I am not sure he would say have been markedly better than DMac. His kicks were not exactly cannonballs.

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                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                    @reprobate said in Scott Robertson:

                    @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                    Seems to me there's something rotten at the assistant coach level. I'd also be very surprised if having the Mo at 10 would have helped us play that much better. General skills has deteriorated in the backline, our wingers aren't well-used, midfield is open, and the best loosies combo is anyone's guess.
                    I do wonder if Barrett's relatively shy performance as captain led to some team disruption.

                    Hard disagree with the first bit, the impact of a lack of Mo'unga (and I'm not even really a fan).

                    Hard counter-disagreement with your hard disagree based on this:

                    Cantab players who amaze in Super no longer amaze at international level.
                    Not their fault.
                    But Richie was a so-so to good AB 10. He didn't have the same impact at international level and that WASN'T under Razor as AB coach.
                    Almost every player has stagnated (eg Jordan) or remained at the same level (Taylor).
                    I'd agree he could probably have linked and managed better than Barrett but given the last 2 years we are dangeously extrapolating to think he was the answer..
                    The ABs luckily beat England, faced a B or C French team, and showed flashes and fumbles against the other top sides. And against say South Africa or a full-strength England or France no I am not sure he would say have been markedly better than DMac. His kicks were not exactly cannonballs.

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                    @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                    @reprobate said in Scott Robertson:

                    @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                    Seems to me there's something rotten at the assistant coach level. I'd also be very surprised if having the Mo at 10 would have helped us play that much better. General skills has deteriorated in the backline, our wingers aren't well-used, midfield is open, and the best loosies combo is anyone's guess.
                    I do wonder if Barrett's relatively shy performance as captain led to some team disruption.

                    Hard disagree with the first bit, the impact of a lack of Mo'unga (and I'm not even really a fan).

                    Hard counter-disagreement with your hard disagree based on this:

                    Cantab players who amaze in Super no longer amaze at international level.
                    Not their fault.
                    But Richie was a so-so to good AB 10. He didn't have the same impact at international level and that WASN'T under Razor as AB coach.
                    Almost every player has stagnated (eg Jordan) or remained at the same level (Taylor).
                    I'd agree he could probably have linked and managed better than Barrett but given the last 2 years we are dangeously extrapolating to think he was the answer..
                    The ABs luckily beat England, faced a B or C French team, and showed flashes and fumbles against the other top sides. And against say South Africa or a full-strength England or France no I am not sure he would say have been markedly better than DMac. His kicks were not exactly cannonballs.

                    Robertson would have picked Mo'unga whereas he didn't pick McKenzie. So Mo'unga doesn't have to be better than McKenzie, he only has to be better than Barrett to have been an improvement.
                    His field kicking is much more accurate, his options are better, he is a running threat, his hands are faster, and he spots gaps and mismatches better. Backs outside BB pretty much always look worse than they do with a different 10. He should have been the experienced steady hand wearing 23, or maybe at 15 with Jordan on the wing, and having him at 10 castrated our backline.

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                      He was a one trick pony. His first couple of Super titles were built on the innovation of theming. But that didn't remain an innovation for long.

                      The superior recruitment of the Crusaders and signing talent from other franchise areas did the rest.

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                      @sparky said in Scott Robertson:

                      He was a one trick pony. His first couple of Super titles were built on the innovation of theming. But that didn't remain an innovation for long.

                      The superior recruitment of the Crusaders and signing talent from other franchise areas did the rest.

                      Wow, winning a Super rugby title sounds really easy!

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                        @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                        @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                        Razor's tenure reminds me a lot of Ewen McKenzie's with the Wallabies. McKenzie diverted away from what he'd done so well with the Reds which meant he lost the support of many of those Reds players. The rest then fell like dominos and then everything collapsed towards the end.

                        I'm still a bit confused about what happened there. Was reading his and Eddie's analysis of the last French game, and I thought Ewen was more incisive.

                        McKenzie was so focused on not being seen by the players as just a promoted Super Rugby coach that he went away from one of the things that had made him such a strong coach at that level, his relationships with the players. Avoided being matey with the Reds guys which upset them and confused everyone else in the squad - "If the players from your own title-winning team don't like you, why should we?". All slowly collapsed from there.

                        I thought McKenzie was just basically shafted by players who didn't want to have rules etc? He was sunk when he stood down the group that hit the piss in London one night. They were out got pretty pissed were introducing one of their fathers (who was there as suoorter) to the locals as Link McKenzie etc, they never forgave him for standing them down I got impression. Can't remember the hooker's name off hand with squad copped shit from other players for being the one who maybe alerted McKenzie. I always thought Micheal Hooper (when he was captain) shafted him in an interview that was about time McKenzie resigned. Hooper was one of the ones who got on piss in London.

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                        @Dan54 said in Scott Robertson:

                        @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                        @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                        @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                        Razor's tenure reminds me a lot of Ewen McKenzie's with the Wallabies. McKenzie diverted away from what he'd done so well with the Reds which meant he lost the support of many of those Reds players. The rest then fell like dominos and then everything collapsed towards the end.

                        I'm still a bit confused about what happened there. Was reading his and Eddie's analysis of the last French game, and I thought Ewen was more incisive.

                        McKenzie was so focused on not being seen by the players as just a promoted Super Rugby coach that he went away from one of the things that had made him such a strong coach at that level, his relationships with the players. Avoided being matey with the Reds guys which upset them and confused everyone else in the squad - "If the players from your own title-winning team don't like you, why should we?". All slowly collapsed from there.

                        I thought McKenzie was just basically shafted by players who didn't want to have rules etc? He was sunk when he stood down the group that hit the piss in London one night. They were out got pretty pissed were introducing one of their fathers (who was there as suoorter) to the locals as Link McKenzie etc, they never forgave him for standing them down I got impression. Can't remember the hooker's name off hand with squad copped shit from other players for being the one who maybe alerted McKenzie. I always thought Micheal Hooper (when he was captain) shafted him in an interview that was about time McKenzie resigned. Hooper was one of the ones who got on piss in London.

                        He was sunk well before that night! The lack of respect was a symptom, not a cause. That night out was one of many major moments but it largely all stemmed from Link's initial approach to being coach.

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                          @Dan54 said in Scott Robertson:

                          @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                          @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                          @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                          Razor's tenure reminds me a lot of Ewen McKenzie's with the Wallabies. McKenzie diverted away from what he'd done so well with the Reds which meant he lost the support of many of those Reds players. The rest then fell like dominos and then everything collapsed towards the end.

                          I'm still a bit confused about what happened there. Was reading his and Eddie's analysis of the last French game, and I thought Ewen was more incisive.

                          McKenzie was so focused on not being seen by the players as just a promoted Super Rugby coach that he went away from one of the things that had made him such a strong coach at that level, his relationships with the players. Avoided being matey with the Reds guys which upset them and confused everyone else in the squad - "If the players from your own title-winning team don't like you, why should we?". All slowly collapsed from there.

                          I thought McKenzie was just basically shafted by players who didn't want to have rules etc? He was sunk when he stood down the group that hit the piss in London one night. They were out got pretty pissed were introducing one of their fathers (who was there as suoorter) to the locals as Link McKenzie etc, they never forgave him for standing them down I got impression. Can't remember the hooker's name off hand with squad copped shit from other players for being the one who maybe alerted McKenzie. I always thought Micheal Hooper (when he was captain) shafted him in an interview that was about time McKenzie resigned. Hooper was one of the ones who got on piss in London.

                          He was sunk well before that night! The lack of respect was a symptom, not a cause. That night out was one of many major moments but it largely all stemmed from Link's initial approach to being coach.

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                          @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                          @Dan54 said in Scott Robertson:

                          @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                          @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                          @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                          Razor's tenure reminds me a lot of Ewen McKenzie's with the Wallabies. McKenzie diverted away from what he'd done so well with the Reds which meant he lost the support of many of those Reds players. The rest then fell like dominos and then everything collapsed towards the end.

                          I'm still a bit confused about what happened there. Was reading his and Eddie's analysis of the last French game, and I thought Ewen was more incisive.

                          McKenzie was so focused on not being seen by the players as just a promoted Super Rugby coach that he went away from one of the things that had made him such a strong coach at that level, his relationships with the players. Avoided being matey with the Reds guys which upset them and confused everyone else in the squad - "If the players from your own title-winning team don't like you, why should we?". All slowly collapsed from there.

                          I thought McKenzie was just basically shafted by players who didn't want to have rules etc? He was sunk when he stood down the group that hit the piss in London one night. They were out got pretty pissed were introducing one of their fathers (who was there as suoorter) to the locals as Link McKenzie etc, they never forgave him for standing them down I got impression. Can't remember the hooker's name off hand with squad copped shit from other players for being the one who maybe alerted McKenzie. I always thought Micheal Hooper (when he was captain) shafted him in an interview that was about time McKenzie resigned. Hooper was one of the ones who got on piss in London.

                          He was sunk well before that night! The lack of respect was a symptom, not a cause. That night out was one of many major moments but it largely all stemmed from Link's initial approach to being coach.

                          Ok mate, from what I remembered McKenzie only coached a couple of years and that happened in his first year, but can't remember details. I know he was pissed off stood a few players down from next test and players some players started throwing toys out of cot. One reason (of a few) why I never very keen on that piston wristed gibbon Honey Badger or whatever his name was. But was a classic case of players going off rails next year Kurtley Beale was playing up (as usual in those days). .But anyway I digress this is about Robertson.

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                            Interesting detail from One News interview with Papali'i:

                            https://www.1news.co.nz/2026/02/10/snubbed-all-blacks-loose-forward-hints-at-overseas-move/

                            Papali'i, left out of the Rugby Championship and November squads, was reluctant to get into his relationship with Robertson, sacked in January midway through his four-year deal, but did reveal he was involved in the review which ultimately did for the former Crusaders man.

                            “I was yeah but I’ll keep that to myself,” Papali’i said.

                            “I was there when Shag [Sir Steve Hansen] and Fozzie [Ian Foster] were there holding the helm [at the All Blacks]. Seeing it change to Razor’s agenda – you could see there was a big difference.

                            “People spoke up and they had to have a review. We followed that process… I don’t really want to speak too much on that. What happened, happened.”

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                              Interesting detail from One News interview with Papali'i:

                              https://www.1news.co.nz/2026/02/10/snubbed-all-blacks-loose-forward-hints-at-overseas-move/

                              Papali'i, left out of the Rugby Championship and November squads, was reluctant to get into his relationship with Robertson, sacked in January midway through his four-year deal, but did reveal he was involved in the review which ultimately did for the former Crusaders man.

                              “I was yeah but I’ll keep that to myself,” Papali’i said.

                              “I was there when Shag [Sir Steve Hansen] and Fozzie [Ian Foster] were there holding the helm [at the All Blacks]. Seeing it change to Razor’s agenda – you could see there was a big difference.

                              “People spoke up and they had to have a review. We followed that process… I don’t really want to speak too much on that. What happened, happened.”

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                              @Tim I shared in the thread a month ago that there were some serious lines Scott Robertson crossed with Papalii. I hope for everyone’s sake that stays behind closed doors because no one needs to hear the full story. However, I just saw in a comment section someone repeating most of the rumour, though still missing a few critical details. I suspect it will be out soon one way or another, though maybe not the full story. But if the full story does come out, then I think it would be clear that incident alone would have been decent grounds to get Robertson fired, even without anything else happening.

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                                @Tim I shared in the thread a month ago that there were some serious lines Scott Robertson crossed with Papalii. I hope for everyone’s sake that stays behind closed doors because no one needs to hear the full story. However, I just saw in a comment section someone repeating most of the rumour, though still missing a few critical details. I suspect it will be out soon one way or another, though maybe not the full story. But if the full story does come out, then I think it would be clear that incident alone would have been decent grounds to get Robertson fired, even without anything else happening.

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                                But if the full story does come out, then I think it would be clear that incident alone would have been decent grounds to get Robertson fired, even without anything else happening.

                                Holy shit. That's heavy.

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                                  @Tim I shared in the thread a month ago that there were some serious lines Scott Robertson crossed with Papalii. I hope for everyone’s sake that stays behind closed doors because no one needs to hear the full story. However, I just saw in a comment section someone repeating most of the rumour, though still missing a few critical details. I suspect it will be out soon one way or another, though maybe not the full story. But if the full story does come out, then I think it would be clear that incident alone would have been decent grounds to get Robertson fired, even without anything else happening.

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                                  @handa457 said in Scott Robertson:

                                  @Tim I shared in the thread a month ago that there were some serious lines Scott Robertson crossed with Papalii. I hope for everyone’s sake that stays behind closed doors because no one needs to hear the full story. However, I just saw in a comment section someone repeating most of the rumour, though still missing a few critical details. I suspect it will be out soon one way or another, though maybe not the full story. But if the full story does come out, then I think it would be clear that incident alone would have been decent grounds to get Robertson fired, even without anything else happening.

                                  I think something will come out. The way Dalton answered without answering I think will encourage (even if not intended) the media to keep digging. Whether they're skilled enough to get the real story is another question. But it sure is intriguing.

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                                    @handa457 said in Scott Robertson:

                                    @Tim I shared in the thread a month ago that there were some serious lines Scott Robertson crossed with Papalii. I hope for everyone’s sake that stays behind closed doors because no one needs to hear the full story. However, I just saw in a comment section someone repeating most of the rumour, though still missing a few critical details. I suspect it will be out soon one way or another, though maybe not the full story. But if the full story does come out, then I think it would be clear that incident alone would have been decent grounds to get Robertson fired, even without anything else happening.

                                    I think something will come out. The way Dalton answered without answering I think will encourage (even if not intended) the media to keep digging. Whether they're skilled enough to get the real story is another question. But it sure is intriguing.

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                                    @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                                    @handa457 said in Scott Robertson:

                                    @Tim I shared in the thread a month ago that there were some serious lines Scott Robertson crossed with Papalii. I hope for everyone’s sake that stays behind closed doors because no one needs to hear the full story. However, I just saw in a comment section someone repeating most of the rumour, though still missing a few critical details. I suspect it will be out soon one way or another, though maybe not the full story. But if the full story does come out, then I think it would be clear that incident alone would have been decent grounds to get Robertson fired, even without anything else happening.

                                    I think something will come out. The way Dalton answered without answering I think will encourage (even if not intended) the media to keep digging. Whether they're skilled enough to get the real story is another question. But it sure is intriguing.

                                    It's fairly easy to find on places like Reddit now, so it's just a matter of whether or not any journalist dares to ask and whether Papali'i feels like talking about it. Definitely the kind of thing you wouldn't be relying on others' testimony before publishing.

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                                      @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                                      @handa457 said in Scott Robertson:

                                      @Tim I shared in the thread a month ago that there were some serious lines Scott Robertson crossed with Papalii. I hope for everyone’s sake that stays behind closed doors because no one needs to hear the full story. However, I just saw in a comment section someone repeating most of the rumour, though still missing a few critical details. I suspect it will be out soon one way or another, though maybe not the full story. But if the full story does come out, then I think it would be clear that incident alone would have been decent grounds to get Robertson fired, even without anything else happening.

                                      I think something will come out. The way Dalton answered without answering I think will encourage (even if not intended) the media to keep digging. Whether they're skilled enough to get the real story is another question. But it sure is intriguing.

                                      It's fairly easy to find on places like Reddit now, so it's just a matter of whether or not any journalist dares to ask and whether Papali'i feels like talking about it. Definitely the kind of thing you wouldn't be relying on others' testimony before publishing.

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                                      @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                                      It's fairly easy to find on places like Reddit now, so it's just a matter of whether or not any journalist dares to ask and whether Papali'i feels like talking about it. Definitely the kind of thing you wouldn't be relying on others' testimony before publishing.

                                      There's some versions out there, and some might be ah contested. So I'd hope a journalist attempts to get an accurate version.

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                                        @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                                        It's fairly easy to find on places like Reddit now, so it's just a matter of whether or not any journalist dares to ask and whether Papali'i feels like talking about it. Definitely the kind of thing you wouldn't be relying on others' testimony before publishing.

                                        There's some versions out there, and some might be ah contested. So I'd hope a journalist attempts to get an accurate version.

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                                        @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                                        @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                                        It's fairly easy to find on places like Reddit now, so it's just a matter of whether or not any journalist dares to ask and whether Papali'i feels like talking about it. Definitely the kind of thing you wouldn't be relying on others' testimony before publishing.

                                        There's some versions out there, and some might be ah contested. So I'd hope a journalist attempts to get an accurate version.

                                        I have a feeling the story will come out down the line.

                                        Does not paint Robertson in a good light at all. Seriously crossing a line if accurate.

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                                          @nostrildamus said in Scott Robertson:

                                          @Mr-Fish said in Scott Robertson:

                                          It's fairly easy to find on places like Reddit now, so it's just a matter of whether or not any journalist dares to ask and whether Papali'i feels like talking about it. Definitely the kind of thing you wouldn't be relying on others' testimony before publishing.

                                          There's some versions out there, and some might be ah contested. So I'd hope a journalist attempts to get an accurate version.

                                          I have a feeling the story will come out down the line.

                                          Does not paint Robertson in a good light at all. Seriously crossing a line if accurate.

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                                          @MN5 said in Scott Robertson:

                                          I have a feeling the story will come out down the line.

                                          Does not paint Robertson in a good light at all. Seriously crossing a line if accurate.

                                          Hasn't been a great year for Blues loose forwards.

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