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All Blacks - New Coach Selection

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @sparky said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

    @nostrildamus It won't be a current Six Nations Head Coach.

    Yes I actually wondered whether there was a hint of an assistant but that is surely down the track..

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    @nostrildamus

    I had four thoughts about the Mid-March being both the likely All Blacks Coaching announcement and the end of the Six Nations.

    1. Warren Gatland was working World Rugby on a short-term consultancy with referees. I've no idea if that has already ended, but it might run until the end of the 6 Nations?

    2. NZR are known to be admirers of Shaun Edwards. Again I've no idea if he's tied to France until after the 2027 World Cup, but he's definitely going to be committed to them until the end of an ongoing tournament. Is he going to be the All Blacks new Defence Coach?

    3. Or it might be that a key member of the NZR board is going to be in Europe until the end of the 6 Nations?

    4. Or is it just a coincidence?

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    • Landers92L Landers92

      @frugby said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

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      Devlin going against the grain

      This is what I just came here to post as well. The latest on the rumour mill from my sources is it won’t be decided until March.

      Starting to think I won’t post everything I hear as it’s just gone willy nilly. Eg throw enough shit at a wall and it’ll stick eventually.

      What do they gain by waiting until March? I have no idea other than the Japan season may be over so could suit a Rennie announcement?

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      @Landers92 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

      This is what I just came here to post as well. The latest on the rumour mill from my sources is it won’t be decided until March.

      Starting to think I won’t post everything I hear as it’s just gone willy nilly. Eg throw enough shit at a wall and it’ll stick eventually.

      Think of the Myth mate, he may have a family to feed.

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        @Landers92 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

        This is what I just came here to post as well. The latest on the rumour mill from my sources is it won’t be decided until March.

        Starting to think I won’t post everything I hear as it’s just gone willy nilly. Eg throw enough shit at a wall and it’ll stick eventually.

        Think of the Myth mate, he may have a family to feed.

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        @reprobate said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

        Think of the Myth mate, he may have a family to feed.

        He could always try the professional social influencer method a la the Kardashians .. accidentally release a sextape. On second thoughts, maybe not.

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

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          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

          @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

          Yes - I have it on great authority from some guy on the internet who wrote - in not so many words - that Hanson announced at a team meeting that Ruben Love was blacklisted and would never play for the All Blacks again.

          And he never did - except against Wales in the last game when he started at fullback.

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            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

            @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

            Yes - I have it on great authority from some guy on the internet who wrote - in not so many words - that Hanson announced at a team meeting that Ruben Love was blacklisted and would never play for the All Blacks again.

            And he never did - except against Wales in the last game when he started at fullback.

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            @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              @kidcalder from memory he challenged Hansen on something and got blacklisted after that. That was a really stupid and weird coaching group, hopefully we see Love get a lot more chances now.

              Yes - I have it on great authority from some guy on the internet who wrote - in not so many words - that Hanson announced at a team meeting that Ruben Love was blacklisted and would never play for the All Blacks again.

              And he never did - except against Wales in the last game when he started at fullback.

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              @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

              Yes - I have it on great authority from some guy on the internet who wrote - in not so many words - that Hanson announced at a team meeting that Ruben Love was blacklisted and would never play for the All Blacks again .. in a competitive rugby game.. And he never did - except given the one exception was against Wales in the last game when he started at fullback.

              FIFY.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

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                @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

                What does that have to do with anything?

                Did he get blacklisted?

                I've just applied some critical thought - and presented some pretty compelling evidence - rarity though that is in this day and age!!!

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

                  What does that have to do with anything?

                  Did he get blacklisted?

                  I've just applied some critical thought - and presented some pretty compelling evidence - rarity though that is in this day and age!!!

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                  @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                  @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

                  What does that have to do with anything?

                  Did he get blacklisted?

                  I've just applied some critical thought - and presented some pretty compelling evidence - rarity though that is in this day and age!!!

                  Wait, are you trying to turn my post against us? You mean he did play meaningful minutes and wasn't blacklisted? Critical thought typically takes in all factors was my assumption, not just ones that suit an opinion.

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                    On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                    Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                      @Chris-B. Yeah, right? What on earth makes people moan these players don't get meaningful minutes? Wales have won a grand slam!

                      What does that have to do with anything?

                      Did he get blacklisted?

                      I've just applied some critical thought - and presented some pretty compelling evidence - rarity though that is in this day and age!!!

                      Wait, are you trying to turn my post against us? You mean he did play meaningful minutes and wasn't blacklisted? Critical thought typically takes in all factors was my assumption, not just ones that suit an opinion.

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                      @Bones If you're blacklisted ,you don't get to play.

                      If you get to play - how can you be blacklisted?

                      Or does someone have some nonsensical text that applies to this blacklisting?

                      Is it only on Thursdays?

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                      • G game_film

                        On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                        Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

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                        @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                        On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                        Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

                        this was one of the rumours I heard. Shag, JJ and McCaw. as a trio

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                          @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                          On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                          Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

                          this was one of the rumours I heard. Shag, JJ and McCaw. as a trio

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                          @bayimports said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                          @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                          On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                          Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

                          this was one of the rumours I heard. Shag, JJ and McCaw. as a trio

                          McCaw as cultural commissar and loose forward dark arts coach?

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                            He was the 🐐 as a player, but has Richie McCaw done any coaching? Shades of England appointing Martin Johnson in the early 2010s. Hopefully, no dwarves will get hurt this time.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              He was the 🐐 as a player, but has Richie McCaw done any coaching? Shades of England appointing Martin Johnson in the early 2010s. Hopefully, no dwarves will get hurt this time.

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                              @sparky said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                              He was the 🐐 as a player, but has Richie McCaw done any coaching? Shades of England appointing Martin Johnson in the early 2010s. Hopefully, no dwarves will get hurt this time.

                              He would be there to create the right feels, as you say he has no coaching experience I don't think

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                He was the 🐐 as a player, but has Richie McCaw done any coaching? Shades of England appointing Martin Johnson in the early 2010s. Hopefully, no dwarves will get hurt this time.

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                                @sparky said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                Hopefully, no dwarves will get hurt this time.

                                You really don't like halfbacks do you.

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                                  On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                                  Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

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                                  @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                  On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                                  The same Breakdown team who thought Scott Robertson was safe from the end of season review and then said Tony Brown definitely had an exit clause from his Springboks deal?

                                  Forgive me for being sceptical of their oil.

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                                    if it's already decided, why wouldn't they announce it now? Especially if Goldie is telling us the result on national TV?

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                                      if it's already decided, why wouldn't they announce it now? Especially if Goldie is telling us the result on national TV?

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                                      @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                      if it's already decided, why wouldn't they announce it now? Especially if Goldie is telling us the result on national TV?

                                      Maybe sorting the ramifications for other teams affected losing a coach.
                                      Highlanders you would think would be fairly straight forward being NZR contract but any other coaches may have to negotiate further and need anonymity at this stage?
                                      Sooner than later would be best even for the remaining Razor team so they can have some employment security, I'd say it can't be great time for them.

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                                        @Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                        if it's already decided, why wouldn't they announce it now? Especially if Goldie is telling us the result on national TV?

                                        Maybe sorting the ramifications for other teams affected losing a coach.
                                        Highlanders you would think would be fairly straight forward being NZR contract but any other coaches may have to negotiate further and need anonymity at this stage?
                                        Sooner than later would be best even for the remaining Razor team so they can have some employment security, I'd say it can't be great time for them.

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                                        @kidcalder Yeah - that's reasonable - but, every day you delay means more leaks in the dike, and it's already pouring.

                                        I'm inclined to think that it's not yet decided and someone posted that a couple of the selection panel have been spotteed on their way to Japan - which seems like a hybrid interview yet to take place.

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          @bayimports said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                                          Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

                                          this was one of the rumours I heard. Shag, JJ and McCaw. as a trio

                                          McCaw as cultural commissar and loose forward dark arts coach?

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                                          @canefan said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          @bayimports said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          @game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:

                                          On the Breakdown they effectively said it was JJ just a matter of time. Goldie: 10-14 days and it’ll be announced.

                                          Also NZR looking at where they can fit Shag in upon his return. So that could be at Super, not necessarily the ABs

                                          this was one of the rumours I heard. Shag, JJ and McCaw. as a trio

                                          McCaw as cultural commissar and loose forward dark arts coach?

                                          technical assistant, to be clear heard many rumours..this was just one of them, so i dont give this one much weight, but found it interesting that shag and jj getting mentioned together adds a bit of flavour to it

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