All Blacks 2026
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
Bit of a bummer to be losing our best Openside flanker at the end of the year. Hopefully, Paps will still go on the South Africa tour.
not sure i agree, hes obviously very good but not sure hes the difference between winning and losing and that would be the only reason i would waste caps on someone when we're almost at square one for building our RWC squad
Who are our best opensides
Savea
Lakai
Jacobson
Blackadder?Have I missed someone?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Lakai
Potential to be a superb international 7, however after claiming the 8 jersey last year his future might be there.
Personally, I'd like to see the ABs persist with Lakai at 7, and Sititi at 8, alongside a bigger 6. Ardie as impact loosie off the bench.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2026:
Bit of a bummer to be losing our best Openside flanker at the end of the year. Hopefully, Paps will still go on the South Africa tour.
not sure i agree, hes obviously very good but not sure hes the difference between winning and losing and that would be the only reason i would waste caps on someone when we're almost at square one for building our RWC squad
Who are our best opensides
Savea
Lakai
Jacobson
Blackadder?Have I missed someone?
Kirifi.
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I don’t want Savea starting. I’m not convinced Sititi and Lakai should start together either. I’m not sure what the answer is - we’ll see how the Super season plays out - but I’d like a bigger, more balanced loose forward trio, each with their obvious roles. It’s something people have been calling for for a while now.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Lakai
Potential to be a superb international 7, however after claiming the 8 jersey last year his future might be there.
Personally, I'd like to see the ABs persist with Lakai at 7, and Sititi at 8, alongside a bigger 6. Ardie as impact loosie off the bench.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Lakai
Potential to be a superb international 7, however after claiming the 8 jersey last year his future might be there.
Personally, I'd like to see the ABs persist with Lakai at 7, and Sititi at 8, alongside a bigger 6. Ardie as impact loosie off the bench.
The problem with this is the same as Savea + Sititi though. It relies on a 3rd member who doesn't exist.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
Lucas Casey will be a loosie to keep an eye on this year
im afraid hes going to be a new savea, played very well at 7 for otago....but played 8 on the weekend and i believe historically hes played 8 through ages grade.....i can just see him getting a shot down the road but plitting his time between 7 and 8 and not perfecting either
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2026:
Lucas Casey will be a loosie to keep an eye on this year
im afraid hes going to be a new savea, played very well at 7 for otago....but played 8 on the weekend and i believe historically hes played 8 through ages grade.....i can just see him getting a shot down the road but plitting his time between 7 and 8 and not perfecting either
@Kiwiwomble think positive. Who knows - Jamie Joseph might be AB coach and might see him as an 8
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Lakai
Potential to be a superb international 7, however after claiming the 8 jersey last year his future might be there.
Personally, I'd like to see the ABs persist with Lakai at 7, and Sititi at 8, alongside a bigger 6. Ardie as impact loosie off the bench.
The problem with this is the same as Savea + Sititi though. It relies on a 3rd member who doesn't exist.
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2026:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Lakai
Potential to be a superb international 7, however after claiming the 8 jersey last year his future might be there.
Personally, I'd like to see the ABs persist with Lakai at 7, and Sititi at 8, alongside a bigger 6. Ardie as impact loosie off the bench.
The problem with this is the same as Savea + Sititi though. It relies on a 3rd member who doesn't exist.
Hopefully someone puts their hand up in Super this year. Definitely a key missing piece for the ABs right now.
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Lucas Casey looks like an openside to me. If he wants to play for the All Blacks, he’d be better off focusing his efforts there - if the Highlanders allow it. He’s not especially tall and carrying too much extra weight could blunt his key strengths.
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan Agreed. And if the rumours have any substance, it’d be more than fair if he’s just had enough and wants to head overseas.
Probably felt that NZR failed to support him. Letting the championship winning Blues back 3 leave will be a stain on Razor's tenure, not to mention he let Plummer leave as well without even properly kicking the tyres
I can understand if they thought Plummer was not quite up to AB standard (whatever that is) but he arguably was more valuable, in-form, and test-quality that season than the Blues 10 they did pick.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2026:
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:
@canefan Agreed. And if the rumours have any substance, it’d be more than fair if he’s just had enough and wants to head overseas.
Probably felt that NZR failed to support him. Letting the championship winning Blues back 3 leave will be a stain on Razor's tenure, not to mention he let Plummer leave as well without even properly kicking the tyres
I can understand if they thought Plummer was not quite up to AB standard (whatever that is) but he arguably was more valuable, in-form, and test-quality that season than the Blues 10 they did pick.
If they picked him they should have given him a decent go. He was never the Carlos or DC type, but maybe he could have been a poor man's Mehrts. I would have taken that. We'll never know now
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The thinking around Casey should be part of the evolution of how we view players. As a hybrid player, he is probably best suited to the no20 jersey.
May start in Super. His future in international footy can be split across the 7/8 role as an 25/30 minute impact player.
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Lucas Casey looks like an openside to me. If he wants to play for the All Blacks, he’d be better off focusing his efforts there - if the Highlanders allow it. He’s not especially tall and carrying too much extra weight could blunt his key strengths.
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2026:
Lucas Casey looks like an openside to me. If he wants to play for the All Blacks, he’d be better off focusing his efforts there - if the Highlanders allow it. He’s not especially tall and carrying too much extra weight could blunt his key strengths.
If we are to believe online stats he is already bigger than Kwagga Smith.
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Lucas Casey looks like an openside to me. If he wants to play for the All Blacks, he’d be better off focusing his efforts there - if the Highlanders allow it. He’s not especially tall and carrying too much extra weight could blunt his key strengths.
@ShaquilleOatmeal and thats the problem, we have far too many hybrid players already and the ABs suffer from it, we need specialists.
I know some players always say I'll play where they want me too, but often I think this is doing them a disservice long term.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal and thats the problem, we have far too many hybrid players already and the ABs suffer from it, we need specialists.
I know some players always say I'll play where they want me too, but often I think this is doing them a disservice long term.
@taniwharugby thats my thought, too many that can play any loosie poisiton, or 10/15 or whatever...but also not enough that could cover both 12 and 13....just doesnt feel right
let lock down some real starting specialists plus depth and leave the hybrid players as the exception
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Rather than just hybrid versus specialist I keep feeling we don't play our players to their strengths and (apart from the tight five) let the opposition dictate play too much. I'm not really a fan of the Steve Hansen approach of only looking at one's own team and not consider how to manipulate the opposition (although maybe he wasn't serious).
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Rather than just hybrid versus specialist I keep feeling we don't play our players to their strengths and (apart from the tight five) let the opposition dictate play too much. I'm not really a fan of the Steve Hansen approach of only looking at one's own team and not consider how to manipulate the opposition (although maybe he wasn't serious).
@nostrildamus Whether that changed when he took over, I am not sure, but they did do that by running at Pocock, forcing him to make tackles and thus largely nullifying his turnover work
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Rather than just hybrid versus specialist I keep feeling we don't play our players to their strengths and (apart from the tight five) let the opposition dictate play too much. I'm not really a fan of the Steve Hansen approach of only looking at one's own team and not consider how to manipulate the opposition (although maybe he wasn't serious).
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Rather than just hybrid versus specialist I keep feeling we don't play our players to their strengths and (apart from the tight five) let the opposition dictate play too much. I'm not really a fan of the Steve Hansen approach of only looking at one's own team and not consider how to manipulate the opposition (although maybe he wasn't serious).
thats probably fair, first thing first. stop selecting a squad and deciding a game plan independent of each other, if we only have limited players we feel and handle the step up to international games then we need to tailor a game plan to their strengths.....if we feel there are only limited game plans that will dominate other nations then we may have to accept slightly "lesser" players....if theyre still "best" to implement them
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Rather than just hybrid versus specialist I keep feeling we don't play our players to their strengths and (apart from the tight five) let the opposition dictate play too much. I'm not really a fan of the Steve Hansen approach of only looking at one's own team and not consider how to manipulate the opposition (although maybe he wasn't serious).
thats probably fair, first thing first. stop selecting a squad and deciding a game plan independent of each other, if we only have limited players we feel and handle the step up to international games then we need to tailor a game plan to their strengths.....if we feel there are only limited game plans that will dominate other nations then we may have to accept slightly "lesser" players....if theyre still "best" to implement them
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Rather than just hybrid versus specialist I keep feeling we don't play our players to their strengths and (apart from the tight five) let the opposition dictate play too much. I'm not really a fan of the Steve Hansen approach of only looking at one's own team and not consider how to manipulate the opposition (although maybe he wasn't serious).
thats probably fair, first thing first. stop selecting a squad and deciding a game plan independent of each other, if we only have limited players we feel and handle the step up to international games then we need to tailor a game plan to their strengths.....if we feel there are only limited game plans that will dominate other nations then we may have to accept slightly "lesser" players....if theyre still "best" to implement them
Exactly this, we played at times like a very limited team that kept trying to limit itself.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:
Rather than just hybrid versus specialist I keep feeling we don't play our players to their strengths and (apart from the tight five) let the opposition dictate play too much. I'm not really a fan of the Steve Hansen approach of only looking at one's own team and not consider how to manipulate the opposition (although maybe he wasn't serious).
thats probably fair, first thing first. stop selecting a squad and deciding a game plan independent of each other, if we only have limited players we feel and handle the step up to international games then we need to tailor a game plan to their strengths.....if we feel there are only limited game plans that will dominate other nations then we may have to accept slightly "lesser" players....if theyre still "best" to implement them
Exactly this, we played at times like a very limited team that kept trying to limit itself.
@nostrildamus the biggest and most ridiculous example of this, and it from fozzies time but there are lesser examples more recently, but when we swung george bridge in to the left wing after Clarke had been there and maybe picked up a niggle....and we still played the ball to that wing and tried to use all 95kg of Bridge as a blind side wing crash ball...and we tried it like 3 times so was definitely planned...just felt there had been no thought given to how the plan would have to change wit different players
