All Blacks - New Coach Selection
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@Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Ruben got to play in four games last year, which seems about right to me given they were mainly picking their best available team in most games.
Well he got 10 mins in the Perth Bledisloe - a game where Beauden wasnt available through injury
He then came on late second half on the wing in that disastrous second half in Wellington vs Boks
It was extremely odd that he barely featured for the ABs following his performance in France test 3
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Chris-B. said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Ruben got to play in four games last year, which seems about right to me given they were mainly picking their best available team in most games.
Well he got 10 mins in the Perth Bledisloe - a game where Beauden wasnt available through injury
He then came on late second half on the wing in that disastrous second half in Wellington vs Boks
It was extremely odd that he barely featured for the ABs following his performance in France test 3
Yep, there was AMPLE opportunity to give him a lot more game time. With Jordan struggling a bit at the back, there were stacks of matches they could have either played Love at 15 and Jordan at 14, or Love at 14 helping Jordan defensively at 15. They were playing Reece at 14 FFS! Absolute insanity.
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I’ve said this before: players outside the top team need meaningful minutes alongside the best side.
A few scattered minutes, being played out of position, or facing weaker opposition in a second-string lineup does nothing for their development and tells us very little about how good they actually are.
The last two years have been completely wasted in this regard.
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I’ve said this before: players outside the top team need meaningful minutes alongside the best side.
A few scattered minutes, being played out of position, or facing weaker opposition in a second-string lineup does nothing for their development and tells us very little about how good they actually are.
The last two years have been completely wasted in this regard.
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
I’ve said this before: players outside the top team need meaningful minutes alongside the best side.
A few scattered minutes, being played out of position, or facing weaker opposition in a second-string lineup does nothing for their development and tells us very little about how good they actually are.
The last two years have been completely wasted in this regard.
I'm sure Ardie and BB among others didn't appreciate getting flogged to death week after week either. Razor had his top team and did his best to run them into the ground. Contrast SA who were not afraid to insert young players into tough situations
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I’ve said this before: players outside the top team need meaningful minutes alongside the best side.
A few scattered minutes, being played out of position, or facing weaker opposition in a second-string lineup does nothing for their development and tells us very little about how good they actually are.
The last two years have been completely wasted in this regard.
@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
I’ve said this before: players outside the top team need meaningful minutes alongside the best side.
A few scattered minutes, being played out of position, or facing weaker opposition in a second-string lineup does nothing for their development and tells us very little about how good they actually are.
The last two years have been completely wasted in this regard.
100%
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
. He can teach the new captain how to captain, for example. Lead the players in establishing standards so the coach can focus on game planning
Sounds like the sort of thing a Head Coach should be doing. Not sure adding what is effectively another layer of management would help
I agree with you in principle Victor, but this is the best player to ever play the game.
Not a jobs for the boys appointment.
To be fair to McCaw he actually stepped away post career to knock out a few chislers, go gliding and run through forests during the night like a lunatic (lunatic for the kids not the running
)I think he actually realises we have lost sight of what it means to be an Allblack, what it takes to be an Allblack and what it takes to win consistently at the top top level. I dont see players in there who really go into dark places to get the job done. The last was Cane coming back from a broken neck.
The Wellington collapse would never happen with McCaws boys, even in the dark days of 2009 when the Boks were touching us up, we weren't easy beats.
I do come accross as a dinosaur at times on here but I stand by the contention that the team lacks "men". Where are your Franks brothers, your Andrew Hores, your Brad Thorns etc?
The rise of social media in the mid 2010's coincided with us being the best team in the world, and we started to sniff our own farts. Chicago Bulls matches, loads of commercial responsibilities, cameras in the post match huddles, behind the scenes content in hotels etc.
Our beasts got humanised.
And the generation that followed McCaws men have been completely blinded by the off field stuff.
Im looking at you Ardie.We have de facto leadership groups of players that clearly cant lead, with unearned Mana.
We have won fuck all in recent memory and have been towelled up far too often to make it even worse.
Razor getting the chop was step 1.
Under performing players regardless of past glories need to be dropped and form players need to be rewarded.
It has to be a meritocracy.The social media needs to be reduced and more head down, arse up toil needs to be done.
People say "but thats just the nature of the game now, you have to do it".
That may be so, but being number 1 will bring in the sponsorship dollars as much as being number 4 or 5 and knocking out instagram reels every day.
People want to be associated with winners. Forget the Tik Tok, start winning rugby matches.
@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
. He can teach the new captain how to captain, for example. Lead the players in establishing standards so the coach can focus on game planning
Sounds like the sort of thing a Head Coach should be doing. Not sure adding what is effectively another layer of management would help
I agree with you in principle Victor, but this is the best player to ever play the game.
Not a jobs for the boys appointment.
To be fair to McCaw he actually stepped away post career to knock out a few chislers, go gliding and run through forests during the night like a lunatic (lunatic for the kids not the running
)I think he actually realises we have lost sight of what it means to be an Allblack, what it takes to be an Allblack and what it takes to win consistently at the top top level. I dont see players in there who really go into dark places to get the job done. The last was Cane coming back from a broken neck.
The Wellington collapse would never happen with McCaws boys, even in the dark days of 2009 when the Boks were touching us up, we weren't easy beats.
I do come accross as a dinosaur at times on here but I stand by the contention that the team lacks "men". Where are your Franks brothers, your Andrew Hores, your Brad Thorns etc?
The rise of social media in the mid 2010's coincided with us being the best team in the world, and we started to sniff our own farts. Chicago Bulls matches, loads of commercial responsibilities, cameras in the post match huddles, behind the scenes content in hotels etc.
Our beasts got humanised.
And the generation that followed McCaws men have been completely blinded by the off field stuff.
Im looking at you Ardie.We have de facto leadership groups of players that clearly cant lead, with unearned Mana.
We have won fuck all in recent memory and have been towelled up far too often to make it even worse.
Razor getting the chop was step 1.
Under performing players regardless of past glories need to be dropped and form players need to be rewarded.
It has to be a meritocracy.The social media needs to be reduced and more head down, arse up toil needs to be done.
People say "but thats just the nature of the game now, you have to do it".
That may be so, but being number 1 will bring in the sponsorship dollars as much as being number 4 or 5 and knocking out instagram reels every day.
People want to be associated with winners. Forget the Tik Tok, start winning rugby matches.
All interesting stuff. But adding further management layers isn't going to solve anything.
Appointing teams of Social Media Monitors & Boot Colour Inspectors to go along with the Captain Mentoring and Head Coach Liaison Unit isn't the answer either
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@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
. He can teach the new captain how to captain, for example. Lead the players in establishing standards so the coach can focus on game planning
Sounds like the sort of thing a Head Coach should be doing. Not sure adding what is effectively another layer of management would help
I agree with you in principle Victor, but this is the best player to ever play the game.
Not a jobs for the boys appointment.
To be fair to McCaw he actually stepped away post career to knock out a few chislers, go gliding and run through forests during the night like a lunatic (lunatic for the kids not the running
)I think he actually realises we have lost sight of what it means to be an Allblack, what it takes to be an Allblack and what it takes to win consistently at the top top level. I dont see players in there who really go into dark places to get the job done. The last was Cane coming back from a broken neck.
The Wellington collapse would never happen with McCaws boys, even in the dark days of 2009 when the Boks were touching us up, we weren't easy beats.
I do come accross as a dinosaur at times on here but I stand by the contention that the team lacks "men". Where are your Franks brothers, your Andrew Hores, your Brad Thorns etc?
The rise of social media in the mid 2010's coincided with us being the best team in the world, and we started to sniff our own farts. Chicago Bulls matches, loads of commercial responsibilities, cameras in the post match huddles, behind the scenes content in hotels etc.
Our beasts got humanised.
And the generation that followed McCaws men have been completely blinded by the off field stuff.
Im looking at you Ardie.We have de facto leadership groups of players that clearly cant lead, with unearned Mana.
We have won fuck all in recent memory and have been towelled up far too often to make it even worse.
Razor getting the chop was step 1.
Under performing players regardless of past glories need to be dropped and form players need to be rewarded.
It has to be a meritocracy.The social media needs to be reduced and more head down, arse up toil needs to be done.
People say "but thats just the nature of the game now, you have to do it".
That may be so, but being number 1 will bring in the sponsorship dollars as much as being number 4 or 5 and knocking out instagram reels every day.
People want to be associated with winners. Forget the Tik Tok, start winning rugby matches.
All interesting stuff. But adding further management layers isn't going to solve anything.
Appointing teams of Social Media Monitors & Boot Colour Inspectors to go along with the Captain Mentoring and Head Coach Liaison Unit isn't the answer either
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@Victor-Meldrew don't forget the skin colour checker for those with different hair.
@Bones said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Victor-Meldrew don't forget the skin colour checker for those with different hair.
Finlay Christie's AB career explained...
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- Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
- Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
- High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.
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@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over
Now we’re fucking talking.
More of this please.
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.
@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over
Now we’re fucking talking.
More of this please.
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
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@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over
Now we’re fucking talking.
More of this please.
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over
Now we’re fucking talking.
More of this please.
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
Always did suspect that Nonu took his socks off.
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@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over
Now we’re fucking talking.
More of this please.
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
Always did suspect that Nonu took his socks off.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over
Now we’re fucking talking.
More of this please.
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
Always did suspect that Nonu took his socks off.
Loved a smooch.
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@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over
Now we’re fucking talking.
More of this please.
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
The guy with Samoan ethnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?
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@game_film said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@bayimports Yeah, McCaw wouldn’t need to be doing any of the actual coaching. Just someone to have a word with the adidas execs to tell them the yellow boots phase is over
Now we’re fucking talking.
More of this please.
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent. Accomodations can be made.
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only. No kissing.
@Jet said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Sex with lights off, socks on , missionary only.
You hang around missionary training centres in the dark a lot then?
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@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
The guy with Samoan ethnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
The guy with Samoan ethnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?
Not with all that makeup he doesnt.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
Short back and sides haircuts mandatory. Unless of Pasifika descent.
Nonu wouldn't have made it then i guess..
The guy with Samoan ethnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?
Not with all that makeup he doesnt.
@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
thnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?Not with all that makeup he doesnt.
I hope you told L'Oréal Paris Men Expert brand ambassadors Faf de Klerk and Cheslin Kolbe that!
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@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
thnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?Not with all that makeup he doesnt.
I hope you told L'Oréal Paris Men Expert brand ambassadors Faf de Klerk and Cheslin Kolbe that!
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@W32 said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
thnicity? Doesn't he get the 'of Pasifika descent 'waiver?Not with all that makeup he doesnt.
I hope you told L'Oréal Paris Men Expert brand ambassadors Faf de Klerk and Cheslin Kolbe that!
Skin moisturizer? Yes! Eyeliner? NOOOO
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- Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
- Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
- High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
- Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
- Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
- High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.
At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."
Yeah fuck off Highlanders.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
- Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
- Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
- High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.
At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."
Yeah fuck off Highlanders.
@Frank said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks - New Coach Selection:
- Rennie and Joseph both see themselves as head coaches only.
- Next All Blacks coach unlikely to known until the second week of March.
- High-calibre and diverse assistants ready to work with either coach.
At the end of the article - "The Post understands that the Highlanders have told NZ Rugby they would like to keep Joseph until the end of the Super Rugby season if he gets the All Blacks job."
Yeah fuck off Highlanders.
You might as well say fuck off Joseph.
If the Highlanders are requesting it, it'll be what Joseph wants too. He will have loyalty to Roger Clark, his playing group and fellow coaches.
If he said, fuck you guys, I get this, I'm out the door. The Highlanders will have no choice but to say ah well, that's shit. Guess it is happening.
These are unique circumstances. There are ways to ensure the best steps are put in place for all parties.
