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    Personally, I think the Bucks should tank like fuck. That’s their only chance of keeping the Freak.

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      Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

      I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
      I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

      Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

      Make homecourt meaningful.

      GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

      That would be fun.

      Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

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        Personally, I think the Bucks should tank like fuck. That’s their only chance of keeping the Freak.

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        @gt12 said in NBA 25/26:

        Personally, I think the Bucks should tank like fuck. That’s their only chance of keeping the Freak.

        Wouldn't surprise me if he ends up with Luka

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          Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

          I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
          I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

          Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

          Make homecourt meaningful.

          GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

          That would be fun.

          Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

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          @voodoo said in NBA 25/26:

          Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

          I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
          I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

          Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

          Make homecourt meaningful.

          GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

          That would be fun.

          Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

          I don't actually like tanking either, but teams would be irrational not to do it.

          Vince Goodwill on the Hoop Collective explained basically those ideas to mitigate tamping and help make the players get spread around, and I like them in principle.

          However, I don't like the idea of having to start winning at some point, mainly because that will further penalize the actually shit teams. The draft and lottery are there because there is an issue with how talent gets distributed and there are already some teams which really fucking struggle to get, then keep, talent. Rachel Nchols goes on about this and she is right, the core issue that drives tanking is that teams who don't have talent need it, and the draft is the key way to get talent and be competitive affordably.

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            Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

            I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
            I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

            Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

            Make homecourt meaningful.

            GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

            That would be fun.

            Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

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            @voodoo

            BTW, Simmons catches plenty in this segment (from 8:30)

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              @voodoo said in NBA 25/26:

              Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

              I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
              I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

              Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

              Make homecourt meaningful.

              GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

              That would be fun.

              Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

              I don't actually like tanking either, but teams would be irrational not to do it.

              Vince Goodwill on the Hoop Collective explained basically those ideas to mitigate tamping and help make the players get spread around, and I like them in principle.

              However, I don't like the idea of having to start winning at some point, mainly because that will further penalize the actually shit teams. The draft and lottery are there because there is an issue with how talent gets distributed and there are already some teams which really fucking struggle to get, then keep, talent. Rachel Nchols goes on about this and she is right, the core issue that drives tanking is that teams who don't have talent need it, and the draft is the key way to get talent and be competitive affordably.

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              @gt12 said in NBA 25/26:

              @voodoo said in NBA 25/26:

              Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

              I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
              I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

              Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

              Make homecourt meaningful.

              GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

              That would be fun.

              Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

              I don't actually like tanking either, but teams would be irrational not to do it.

              Vince Goodwill on the Hoop Collective explained basically those ideas to mitigate tamping and help make the players get spread around, and I like them in principle.

              However, I don't like the idea of having to start winning at some point, mainly because that will further penalize the actually shit teams. The draft and lottery are there because there is an issue with how talent gets distributed and there are already some teams which really fucking struggle to get, then keep, talent. Rachel Nchols goes on about this and she is right, the core issue that drives tanking is that teams who don't have talent need it, and the draft is the key way to get talent and be competitive affordably.

              Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't blame teams for doing what they can and must under the current rules - if tanking is an option, then by all means, go for it.

              But I do take an issue with this "I don't like the idea of having to start winning at some point, mainly because that will further penalize the actually shit teams"

              At the end of the day, the league only has a small responsibility to help you out - at some point you have to stand on your own feet. Imagine the Spurs got The Robinson then Timmy, but the owners didn't get Pop or the support staff. They instead got a bunch of average coaches to save money, allowed a toxic culture to persist, and wasted the talent they'd been given.

              Should they be gifted a 3rd high draft pick??? Surely not.

              The draft evens the playing field. It gives the bottom teams a leg up.

              What they do with that leg up has to be up to them.

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                @voodoo

                BTW, Simmons catches plenty in this segment (from 8:30)

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                @gt12 said in NBA 25/26:

                @voodoo

                BTW, Simmons catches plenty in this segment (from 8:30)

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                  Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

                  I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
                  I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

                  Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

                  Make homecourt meaningful.

                  GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

                  That would be fun.

                  Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

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                  @voodoo said in NBA 25/26:

                  Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

                  I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
                  I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

                  Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

                  Make homecourt meaningful.

                  GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

                  That would be fun.

                  Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

                  I've gotta admit the idea of a variable three pt line at first seems wacky but.... It's no different to baseball parks that are hitter friendly or that favour lefties or whatever.. It's novel, adds a bit of variety, the idea is growing on me.

                  If you had a minimum and maximum and the only provision was that you could not vary it once the season started it could actually be fun.

                  I know we discussed this last year too and one suggestion I had was that 3s only count in the 4th. I'm not entirely sold on that suggestion tbh but in general I think there needs to be some tinkering around 3pt shooting so that it is more of a rarity. It's not that I don't appreciate the skill involved I just don't think it should be the go to, default way of scoring.

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                  • voodooV voodoo

                    @gt12 said in NBA 25/26:

                    @voodoo said in NBA 25/26:

                    Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

                    I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
                    I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

                    Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

                    Make homecourt meaningful.

                    GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

                    That would be fun.

                    Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

                    I don't actually like tanking either, but teams would be irrational not to do it.

                    Vince Goodwill on the Hoop Collective explained basically those ideas to mitigate tamping and help make the players get spread around, and I like them in principle.

                    However, I don't like the idea of having to start winning at some point, mainly because that will further penalize the actually shit teams. The draft and lottery are there because there is an issue with how talent gets distributed and there are already some teams which really fucking struggle to get, then keep, talent. Rachel Nchols goes on about this and she is right, the core issue that drives tanking is that teams who don't have talent need it, and the draft is the key way to get talent and be competitive affordably.

                    Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't blame teams for doing what they can and must under the current rules - if tanking is an option, then by all means, go for it.

                    But I do take an issue with this "I don't like the idea of having to start winning at some point, mainly because that will further penalize the actually shit teams"

                    At the end of the day, the league only has a small responsibility to help you out - at some point you have to stand on your own feet. Imagine the Spurs got The Robinson then Timmy, but the owners didn't get Pop or the support staff. They instead got a bunch of average coaches to save money, allowed a toxic culture to persist, and wasted the talent they'd been given.

                    Should they be gifted a 3rd high draft pick??? Surely not.

                    The draft evens the playing field. It gives the bottom teams a leg up.

                    What they do with that leg up has to be up to them.

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                    @voodoo said in NBA 25/26:

                    @gt12 said in NBA 25/26:

                    @voodoo said in NBA 25/26:

                    Well I for one, fucking hate tanking. It goes against everything I love about sport. It sucks for the players and the fans, just a total blight on the game. I also hate load management FWIW.

                    I'd like to see a more even spread of odds of getting #1. Make the bottom 8 teams all equal chance or something.
                    I heard someone suggest that if you get the #1 pick one year, you're inelgible for any of the top [4-6] the year after - that makes sense to me too.

                    Can't see load management going away any time soon because the players don't give a shit about playoff seedings anymore. It's all about getting to the playoffs healthy and rested. So another idea (aside from the obvious reduce the # of games to 70 or something) idea I liked was to allow each team to set the 3pt line wherever they want on their home court.

                    Make homecourt meaningful.

                    GSW, you don't care where you finish as long as you make the playoffs? Well, you better start, because when you play in OKC, there is no 3pt line. Or it's going to be 65 feet. One or the other.

                    That would be fun.

                    Finally, guarenteed contracts should fuck off. Watching Ben Simmons collect $75 billion dollars (I think that's right) for about 27 minutes of playing time is just insane. Do we really think that people won't want to be in the NBA if their contracts aren't guaranteed??? Come on. There should be a baseline % that you have guartanteed - like $2m p.a. or something. The rest is cream - or put another way, reward for actual service.

                    I don't actually like tanking either, but teams would be irrational not to do it.

                    Vince Goodwill on the Hoop Collective explained basically those ideas to mitigate tamping and help make the players get spread around, and I like them in principle.

                    However, I don't like the idea of having to start winning at some point, mainly because that will further penalize the actually shit teams. The draft and lottery are there because there is an issue with how talent gets distributed and there are already some teams which really fucking struggle to get, then keep, talent. Rachel Nchols goes on about this and she is right, the core issue that drives tanking is that teams who don't have talent need it, and the draft is the key way to get talent and be competitive affordably.

                    Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't blame teams for doing what they can and must under the current rules - if tanking is an option, then by all means, go for it.

                    But I do take an issue with this "I don't like the idea of having to start winning at some point, mainly because that will further penalize the actually shit teams"

                    At the end of the day, the league only has a small responsibility to help you out - at some point you have to stand on your own feet. Imagine the Spurs got The Robinson then Timmy, but the owners didn't get Pop or the support staff. They instead got a bunch of average coaches to save money, allowed a toxic culture to persist, and wasted the talent they'd been given.

                    Should they be gifted a 3rd high draft pick??? Surely not.

                    The draft evens the playing field. It gives the bottom teams a leg up.

                    What they do with that leg up has to be up to them.

                    Sorry, I'm talking about the idea that at some point in the season the draft rankings change from losing to winning. In other words, the teams that are tanking will get rewarded for winning from that point on (which they can do), while the teams which are actually shit will continue to lose, and will be penalized even more.

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                      tanking . . .
                      everyone is tanking and then the Mavs come along and get the No 1 with only one fucking ball in the barrell!
                      now that'd have to piss all the other tankers right off!
                      so f'n funny

                      as for the 4Q 3 pointers, I think netball does something similar with the 2 point shot, seems to work ok

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