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Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown & Dublin Duel

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  • WingerW Winger

    @akan004

    Except why did they start Smith when Perenara had played superbly in the previous two tests

    For me poor selections (A Smith and Kaino at lock) and dumb play by Moody with his yellow cost the ABs this test

    But well done Ireland. They destroyed the ABs in the first half

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    @Winger said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

    @akan004

    Except why did they start Smith when Perenara had played superbly in the previous two tests

    For me poor selections (A Smith and Kaino at lock) and dumb play by Moody with his yellow cost the ABs this test

    But well done Ireland. They destroyed the ABs in the first half

    Because Smith is the best halfback in the world. You're right though, our discipline and lack of urgency by everyone in the first half cost us the game. Hard to believe that we did not learn anything from Dublin in 2013.

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      Fuck it.
      And I'm going to go suck it up at an Irish pub.

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      • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

        I was hoping we could hold out not losing to Ireland for another 2 weeks, as the Trump initiated nuclear war would have obliterated Western Europe by then

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        @Stockcar86 said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

        I was hoping we could hold out not losing to Ireland for another 2 weeks, as the Trump initiated nuclear war would have obliterated Western Europe by then

        Isn't Hilary the war mongerer? Trump is Team Russia. I'm so confused - I need to go check the thread to see what's what.

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          The only consolation I have is that BOD wasn't part of this...

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            I'm trying to remember the last time a team scored 5 tries against the ABs

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              Christ and now the BBC and Sky are whooping it up

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                IMO the single biggest mistake was not trusting Barrett to start. He was fine when he came on! Playing 2 non-jumping locks when Ireland have Toner is just poor.

                Also BB was not flash under pressure, and Smith I think might have for the moment slipped behind Perenara.

                Moody had a mare, and ALB would have much better on the bench.

                Also one flying polynesian on the wings, not 2.

                A humbling defeat, Ireland were really superb for much of the match, simple game-plan executed to perfection.

                Dublin should be a cracker!

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                  @Pot-Hale congrats mate. Congrats Ireland. Deserved winners.

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                    So with both Crotty and Moala out, I guess the selectors will call up Tamanivalu? Buckman played better for the Baabaas but Tamanivalu is already capped.

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                      Classy from Hansen again, take notes on how to handle a disappointing loss Chieka.

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                      • C Crash

                        Christ and now the BBC and Sky are whooping it up

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                        @Crash said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                        Christ and now the BBC and Sky are whooping it up

                        Don't tune in to any non NZ tv station or surf any other website apart from this one till we hopefully redeem ourselves in Dublin. It feels like we have just been knocked out of a world cup.

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                          Happy for the Irish, they've been waiting for this moment such a long time and where so close a few years ago!

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                          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                            IMO the single biggest mistake was not trusting Barrett to start. He was fine when he came on! Playing 2 non-jumping locks when Ireland have Toner is just poor.

                            Also BB was not flash under pressure, and Smith I think might have for the moment slipped behind Perenara.

                            Moody had a mare, and ALB would have much better on the bench.

                            Also one flying polynesian on the wings, not 2.

                            A humbling defeat, Ireland were really superb for much of the match, simple game-plan executed to perfection.

                            Dublin should be a cracker!

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                            @Billy-Tell said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                            IMO the single biggest mistake was not trusting Barrett to start. He was fine when he came on! Playing 2 non-jumping locks when Ireland have Toner is just poor.

                            Also BB was not flash under pressure, and Smith I think might have for the moment slipped behind Perenara.

                            Moody had a mare, and ALB would have much better on the bench.

                            Also one flying polynesian on the wings, not 2.

                            A humbling defeat, Ireland were really superb for much of the match, simple game-plan executed to perfection.

                            Dublin should be a cracker!

                            We did only have one. ๐Ÿ˜‰ (I assume that Naholo is Melanesian Fijian and not Rotuman).

                            And we've been getting by with the combo of Dagg and Savea this year.

                            Nitpicking to soften the blow. ๐Ÿ™‚

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                              Immediately from an English "friend" on Facebook:

                              "Also, seeing as we pumped Ireland in the 6N, this makes us default world champions, right?"

                              Enough people agreeing with him to confirm he wasn't just on the wind up....

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                                The BBC, Sky, Telegraph, Guardian can all go fuck themselves if they think they're going to dine out on that victory.

                                Irish Times, Irish Independent, RTE, 42.ie go knock yourselves out.

                                I'm pissed that I didn't make the 1-5 margin though. ๐Ÿ˜€

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                                • KirwanK Kirwan

                                  Classy from Hansen again, take notes on how to handle a disappointing loss Chieka.

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                                  @Kirwan said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                                  Classy from Hansen again, take notes on how to handle a disappointing loss Chieka.

                                  This.

                                  Don't whinge about ifs, buts, maybes and the ref. Take it on the chin, congratulate the opposition, move on and watch the tapes.

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                                    Very surprised that they hardly used PT as a lineout option, when he was our only recognised lock.

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                                    • KirwanK Kirwan

                                      Classy from Hansen again, take notes on how to handle a disappointing loss Chieka.

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                                      @Kirwan said in Ireland v NZ - Chicago Showdown:

                                      Classy from Hansen again, take notes on how to handle a disappointing loss Chieka.

                                      Is this available somewhere?

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                                        Fuck me, I'm already getting grief from Plastic Paddies in Australia

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                                          Fuck. Glad it wasn't a loss to Australia but every loss sucks.

                                          Not many positives to take out of that game. Shit discipline, shit handling, poor defence, shit lineout and no spark on attack for most of the game.

                                          The loss of our three top locks really hurt us. Playing loose forwards there was a mistake especially next to a non aerial lock in Pat T. The other thing playing Kaino at 4 did was it meant we didn't have Kaino at 6. While Squire wasn't too bad he isn't Kaino.

                                          Read and Cane were pretty quiet by their standards. But Ardie had a few good carries when he came on.

                                          Moody...Fuck. Hope he isn't turning into a card magnet. Not what we need.

                                          Backs were all pretty meh. Savea pretty much took the worst possible option for that 5m scrum late in the game. Kicking it or trying to run it out may have ended with a similar result but running into the in goal was only ever going to result in a 5m scrum. Naholo not much better, although he did make that nice break for our first try. Centres didn't offer a hell of a lot and A Smith was pretty rubbish by his standards (agree, I blame those scum bags from the airport)

                                          Barrets goal kicking was ropey again. Turning into a real concern now. Problem is that Cruden isn't that great either.
                                          Hopefully they get Barrett some intensive kicking coaching over the off season. If Dagg could really focus on kicking it would make him a pretty valuable player and might see him hold off NMS when he returns.

                                          The new injuries are going to throw a bit of a spanner in the works. Crotty and Moala looking to be gone.
                                          I guess Fekitoa-ALB is now the first choice with Ioane probably getting a shot too. I guess they will also bring in Tamanivalu and maybe Buckman too.

                                          Lets hope that puts a rocket up them and they demolish Italy, Ireland at home and France.

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