All Blacks v Ireland II
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From the Laws of Rugby
1.2 Required dimensions for the playing enclosure
(a) Dimensions. The field of play does not exceed 100 metres in length. Each in-goal does not exceed 22 metres in length. The playing area does not exceed 70 metres in width.
(b)
The length and breadth of the playing area are to be as near as possible to the dimensions indicated. All the areas are rectangular.
(c)
The distance from the goal line to the dead ball line will preferably be not less than 10 metres.
(d)
In respect of:
(i) Matches between the senior national representative team or the next senior national representative team of a Union against the senior or next senior national representative team of another Union; and
(ii) International seven-a-side matches;
the dimensions should be as close to the maximum sizes as possible, and not less than 94 metres in length for the field of play, 68 metres in width, and with a minimum in-goal length of 6 metres. Unions wishing to vary minimum or maximum dimensions should apply for dispensation to World Rugby. -
@Crucial
So - was there "dispensation"?
Or - does Soldier's Field not count... the now-double-asterisked Streak continues!@Kruse said in Ireland II:
@Crucial
So - was there "dispensation"?
Or - does Soldier's Field not count... the now-double-asterisked Streak continues!I'd be pretty sure you'd find out that Soldiers Field gained dispensation as part of 'promoting the game'
Landsdowne is within the dimensions but at the minimum when WR states 'should be as close as possible to maximum' .I am simply curious as to why Ireland's major rugby ground cannot get 'close to maximum'.
Anyway, it bit them in the bum when Cruden took his (second attempt) conversion. Just think, he could have been at a wider angle.
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@Kruse said in Ireland II:
@Crucial
So - was there "dispensation"?
Or - does Soldier's Field not count... the now-double-asterisked Streak continues!I'd be pretty sure you'd find out that Soldiers Field gained dispensation as part of 'promoting the game'
Landsdowne is within the dimensions but at the minimum when WR states 'should be as close as possible to maximum' .I am simply curious as to why Ireland's major rugby ground cannot get 'close to maximum'.
Anyway, it bit them in the bum when Cruden took his (second attempt) conversion. Just think, he could have been at a wider angle.
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(Credit to @RoninWC as I have used his post for a cut and paste
My team selection
W. Crockett
D. Coles
O. Franks
B. Retallick
S. Whitelock
J. Kaino
S. Cane
K Read
A. Smith
A. Cruden
J. Savea
A. Lienart-Brown
M. Fekitoa
I. Dagg
B. Smith
ReservesC. Taylor
J. Moody
C. Faumuina
L. Squire
A. Savea
T. Perenara
B. BarrettNot entirely sure on Squire or a specialist lock reserve
@Crucial If Whitelock starts then pretty sure Pat T will be bench with Savea loosie cover.
Assuming Kaino fit and Whitelock can only be risked for twenty then Pat T to start and Savea bench.
If Whitelock crocked Barrett to start and Pat T bench.
I'm struggling to see Squire in unless Kaino's AC rules him out.Injuries permitting, your starting 15 would be what I'd go for.
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Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.
Any word on when the teams named?
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Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.
Any word on when the teams named?
@jegga was named Monday, but they are fearing the Irish backlash so not gonna tell anyone.
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Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.
Any word on when the teams named?
@jegga said in Ireland II:
Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.
That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.
Fuck off, Stuff.
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Whitelock came through last 2 trainings apparently, so signs are promising he and BBBR will resume their partnership in the 2nd row
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BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.
It's a risk.
Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?
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BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.
It's a risk.
Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?
@Rapido said in Ireland II:
BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.
It's a risk.
Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?
Why do you think they threw him out there for half a game when he wasn't needed? BBBR is always a touch quiet on returning to play after a break. He needed a hit out.
BBBR is awesome. If he has an off game then so be it but there is no way I wouldn't select him.
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.
That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.
Fuck off, Stuff.
@Mokey said in Ireland II:
That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.
Fuck off, Stuff.
god they're a fucking disgrace.
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@Rapido said in Ireland II:
BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.
It's a risk.
Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?
Why do you think they threw him out there for half a game when he wasn't needed? BBBR is always a touch quiet on returning to play after a break. He needed a hit out.
BBBR is awesome. If he has an off game then so be it but there is no way I wouldn't select him.
@Crucial said in Ireland II:
@Rapido said in Ireland II:
BBBR was the worst player on the field in Rome, including the Italians.
It's a risk.
Will the captain hindsights who criticsed the selection of A Smith and Cane in Chicago be getting their doubts out there in advance this week re: Whitelock and Retallick?
Why do you think they threw him out there for half a game when he wasn't needed? BBBR is always a touch quiet on returning to play after a break. He needed a hit out.
BBBR is awesome. If he has an off game then so be it but there is no way I wouldn't select him.
Yeah so would I, tbh. The difference being he has actually played some minutes. But it should be acknowledged he was awful and there is risk selecting him.
Whitelock shouldn't be in the 23 IMO.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Ireland II:
@RoninWC @Crucial the ABs have been trying to shake the arrogant tag, only selecting 22 won't help that....
What year are we in again? Where are those pills?
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.
That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.
Fuck off, Stuff.
@Mokey said in Ireland II:
@jegga said in Ireland II:
Mystiques been banished, no word on aura though. Btw these totally sound like strippers names.
That is a shit headline considering the measured words Toner actually says - that the AB's had an off day, there were a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes from them in Chicago, they will be a different beast this week, hopefully it removes the mystique a little.
Fuck off, Stuff.
He's actually pretty humble in a "aw shucks, we actually beat them!" kind of way and ya can't help but be happy for him on some level......
But no, Stuff headlines would have you believe the big fella is running through the streets of Dublin chanting about the mighty beast they've slain and that Ireland are now the best Rugby team that's ever played Rugby in the history of all Rugby.
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My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:
- W. Crockett
- D. Coles
- O. Franks
- B. Retallick
- S. Whitelock
- J. Kaino
- S. Cane
- K Read
- A. Smith
- B. Barrett
- J. Savea
- A. Lienart-Brown
- M. Fekitoa
- I. Dagg
- B. Smith
Reserves
16. C. Taylor
17. J. Moody
18. C. Faumuina
19. L. Squire
20. A. Savea
21. T. Perenara
22. L. SopoagaPersonally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.
@RoninWC said in Ireland II:
My own $0.02 worth on the team selection:
- W. Crockett
- D. Coles
- O. Franks
- B. Retallick
- S. Whitelock
- J. Kaino
- S. Cane
- K Read
- A. Smith
- B. Barrett
- J. Savea
- A. Lienart-Brown
- M. Fekitoa
- I. Dagg
- B. Smith
Reserves
16. C. Taylor
17. J. Moody
18. C. Faumuina
19. L. Squire
20. A. Savea
21. T. Perenara
22. L. SopoagaPersonally this is my team. I think Smith and Barrett need to start as they are our clear No. 1's in their respective positions.
I would rather see Sopoaga on the bench as I think he brings a steady hand whereas I don't think Cruden really offers anything off the bench.And yes, I've gone for speed off the bench with both Squire and Ardie.
@ACT-Crusader
Thank you for pointing out my arrogance and although I'm pretty sure we can beat the Irish with 22, I think I'll go for the full allotment of 23 just to make sure
Therefore, with great fanfare I shall announce my No. 23
- S. Taminivalu (or R. Crotty if he's available but unsure of the injury status) just thinking that R. Ioane is just a little young for this but there isn't much between Seta and Rieko.
@Crucial over to you now...
p.s. Actually after a day or two of contemplation, I'm wavering in my selection of Squire and am leaning towards going with a replacement 2nd rower and in that case I would go with big Patrick.
