All Blacks v Ireland II
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How great is it to have two locks that tackle, compete at the ruck, take lineout ball, and just do their job.
How poor was Aaron Smith? Most notable is that his kicking has gone to the dogs.
Even before Cane went off our loosies were struggling a bit at the breakdown. In attack I thought Squire and Read were very good.
Barrett looked freshened with the week off. Showed a clean set of heels a few times.
Like our back three today. Didn't do everything perfect, but a better overall performance.
Whether it's the NZ commentators or the Irish ones I had on to start the game - mute is still the best option
Well done ABs
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I honestly expected a more comprehensive display from the Abs after the Chicago loss. Our loosies were well and truly outplayed after Cane left and our forwards in general were shaded by the Irish. I don't think we are that far ahead of the pack as originally thought. Ireland's injuries cost them dearly and were unlucky not too have scored on a couple of occasions. Fekitoa probably played his last game in an All Black jersey imo.
I am just not impressed with Fekitoa's accuracy in general, just way below AB standard. The thought of having Fekitoa, Savea, Naholo and Moala on the field at the same time is shocking but that's what we had in Chicago, I am starting to wonder if we can have more than one power back on the field at one time.
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Bish bash bosh from Ireland, but they're not getting anywhere. Can't see them doing that all half - they'll run out of puff.
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@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
BB by far the best AB on the field. Read having a much better 2nd half thus far.
2nd best.
You obviously didn't watch Brodie
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@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
BB by far the best AB on the field. Read having a much better 2nd half thus far.
2nd best.
You obviously didn't watch Brodie
@booboo said in Ireland II:
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
BB by far the best AB on the field. Read having a much better 2nd half thus far.
2nd best.
You obviously didn't watch Brodie
Brodie was a manbeast around the fringes - he made some absolutely monstrous cover hits that stuffed the Irish angled runners in their tracks and did it without going high like Fuckknuckle fekitoa
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@DMX It didn't help, but losing our two world class locks and getting cleaned up in the lineouts was the major reason IMO.
Losing our locks was a huge factor in Chicago but clearly Barrett jr would have put up more resistance than Kaino or PT in the second row, the mix in the backs was completely wrong, and Crockett should have been on the bench, A. Smith was not ready to come back though admittedly this was a harder call.
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@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
BB by far the best AB on the field. Read having a much better 2nd half thus far.
2nd best.
You obviously didn't watch Brodie
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@Tordah said in Ireland II:
Payne wins a turnover on his knee, or as the Irish commentators call it "on his feet"
None so blind as those who will not see.
We lost a pen in the first half when BFA lost his feet at a ruck while the Irish player (22 ?) was scrambling around on his hands and knees.
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@Tordah said in Ireland II:
Payne wins a turnover on his knee, or as the Irish commentators call it "on his feet"
None so blind as those who will not see.
We lost a pen in the first half when BFA lost his feet at a ruck while the Irish player (22 ?) was scrambling around on his hands and knees.
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They can say what they want about the penalty count against the ABs, but half of those penalties were after the Irish moaning convinced the ref there was something wrong that wasn't actually worth a penalty.
@Stargazer said in Ireland II:
They can say what they want about the penalty count against the ABs, but half of those penalties were after the Irish moaning convinced the ref there was something wrong that wasn't actually worth a penalty.
This
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The coaches should give themselves an uppercut as well. Aaron Smiths selection and performance for these two important Irish tests didnt work. The first you understand the second?
@kev said in Ireland II:
The coaches should give themselves an uppercut as well. Aaron Smiths selection and performance for these two important Irish tests didnt work. The first you understand the second?
I don't know. They selected him knowing they TJP up their sleeve. It was a high upside, low downside bet.
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I know Beaudy did some great things - but I thought BBBR played his best game of the season - absolutely awesome.
Defense was obviously much better. We knew was Ireland were going to throw at us this time.
Discipline still an issue - some soft penalties.
I'm still not sure what Julian Savea is adding - he was better than Chicago but poor under the high ball and turned the ball over numerous times when he did have a charge.
Be interesting to see who the 9 is for France test - Perenara pushing his claims, Aaron Smith not so much.
Who was the TMO - some shockers there - the Beaudy try and Sam Cane penalised for a head clash come to mind.
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@nzzp said in Ireland II:
@rotated said in Ireland II:
All the window dressing aside Ireland have came to play today - they still don't have much on attack unless they catch you on a bad day - but absolutely full credit for actually fronting and giving a good tight test.
Schmidt has Ireland playing the type of rugby Gatland has spent 10 years trying to get Wales to play.
Yeah, 9 points is poor considering they had 20 minutes against 14, at home, with a crowd influencing a ref
It isn't the ref making high tackles taking the head offs the opponents or doing the Aaron Smith offside play at the breakdown. Just curious why you say Peyper is a home town ref. Between him and TMO he gave AB's 14 points for free. He didn't have balls to go to TMO on a forward pass. We all know the try wasn't grounded by Beaudy. Refs must realize that with cams from all angles things get picked up. 2 errors from TMO / Peyper cost Ireland the game. Wait for the press.
@JustAnotherFan said in Ireland II:
@nzzp said in Ireland II:
@rotated said in Ireland II:
All the window dressing aside Ireland have came to play today - they still don't have much on attack unless they catch you on a bad day - but absolutely full credit for actually fronting and giving a good tight test.
Schmidt has Ireland playing the type of rugby Gatland has spent 10 years trying to get Wales to play.
Yeah, 9 points is poor considering they had 20 minutes against 14, at home, with a crowd influencing a ref
It isn't the ref making high tackles taking the head offs the opponents or doing the Aaron Smith offside play at the breakdown. Just curious why you say Peyper is a home town ref. Between him and TMO he gave AB's 14 points for free. He didn't have balls to go to TMO on a forward pass. We all know the try wasn't grounded by Beaudy. Refs must realize that with cams from all angles things get picked up. 2 errors from TMO / Peyper cost Ireland the game. Wait for the press.
JustAnotherTroll
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@Tordah what happened?
After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check
@Tordah said in Ireland II:
@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@Tordah what happened?
After Fekitoa scored and Barrett was lining up the conversion, the usual TV director shit comes up and he shows the last pass which was flat, a few in the stadium start to boo, Rory Best comes running from behind the posts up to Barrett who was preparing the kick and PEyper and wnats them to check
It wasn't even flat.
But at least O'Piper sends him away. Eventually.
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One of the questions about Barrett (apart from his goal kicking) was how he would do in a game where our forwards were getting dominated. I do not know that our forward pack did get dominated but we were well behind in territory and possession then of course there was the penalties. Barrett answered those questions by how well he played.
