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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    @canefan I'd be stoked if he went down into the mine, I'd help him pack his cigarettes and lighter too.

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    @jegga said in Pike river:

    @canefan I'd be stoked if he went down into the mine, I'd help him pack his cigarettes and lighter too.

    Don't forget a case of your best single malt

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    The usual reverse of this is Rwnjs jumping on someone's tragedy to wind up public feeling for the good old "law and order" slant.
    Winston plays both sides.

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    @Crucial He is a very adept political survivor

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    @canefan said in Pike river:

    @Crucial He is a very adept political survivor

    Is he what! I think cockroaches recently sent a delegation to him for tips.

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    Good to see Rwnjs bring used there.

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    @Crucial said in Pike river:

    @canefan said in Pike river:

    @Crucial He is a very adept political survivor

    Is he what! I think cockroaches recently sent a delegation to him for tips.

    According to my cousin who used to work at Bellamy's he is a very good tipper. The later into the evening the bigger the tips!!

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    I can't see a single bit of downside for Winston going in to get them himself.

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    @MajorRage except if it turns out it is perfectly safe, and he comes out a hero....

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    Talking to a few coasters that are mates, they apparently only want to go into the 'Drift' to recover what is thought to be 3-6 bodies. The drift is relatively 'safe' apparently.

    They agree it's a nonsense to think that they should go into mine proper to retreive others.

    I asked what the story was in terms of teh communities down there rahter than the actual families themselves and that is the general feeling

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    @Hooroo wouldn't that make it worse, recovering some bodies, but not all?

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    @taniwharugby said in Pike river:

    @Hooroo wouldn't that make it worse, recovering some bodies, but not all?

    I don't know. I don't really have an opinion on it. Was just interested in what the locals thought rather than media and internet

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    @Hooroo yeah I just wonder if that might cause division in the community with some getting their family back and some not...?

    Whinny making hay

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/87550741/winston-peters-says-pike-river-reentry-is-bottom-line-to-election-deals

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    Pike River protesters told to bugger off and their activites are illegal. I suspect they want police dragging them away on camera preferably if they can get someone like John Campbell to come down and cover only their side of the story.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11771265

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    Really good doco on Prime last night about the recovery project. I don't even know if it was a repeat and I had missed it previously or something that was 'under-promoted'.
    Was excellent. Very informative and kept real rather than play on emotions/tradgedy.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/126663668/documentary-recovery-29-continues-search-for-answers-into-pike-river-tragedy

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    @crucial the book by Rebecca Macfie is excellent. Very insightful, based on the Royal Commission. Well worth a read.

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    I think firstly they have to confirm that there are remains that are able to be retrieved. Secondly they would have to fully ventilate the workings to reduce risk of another explosion. Maybe vice versa as robots or drones could spark another fire. The likely hood of remains would be low with the air currently in there being quite acidic, but their full underground mining apparel may have helped preserve them slightly

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/127014143/remains-of-men-killed-in-pike-river-mine-disaster-found

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    @crucial I think I speak for @Jegga when I say Oh, FFS...

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    @jc said in Pike river:

    @crucial I think I speak for @Jegga when I say Oh, FFS...

    Did you read the article or think back to the debate of 5 years ago?

    This is now well into a police operation not to recover bodies but to gather evidence now that entry is well off the table. The fact that, as yet, no one has been held accountable for such a tragic workplace accident is terrible. Not because of punishment or retribution but because without a prosecution the system of workplace safety for everyone else is undermined.

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