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    Virgil
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    Off to see it again shortly.
    Looking forward to picking up anything missed from the first viewing

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    OK, after consulting geek wiki's on the subject (soooo busy at work). It appears that the energy shield protecting the base extended down mostly to the ground.

    Only slow moving objects, like the AT-ATs could penetrate it (like you saw with the shields on the battle of Naboo, with droids walking through them).

    Also, Tie Fighters aren't designed for atmospheric flight, and don't handle well planetside. Add in the cold and bad conditions of Hoth I guess they decided on just ground forces. Worked fairly well for them, they did destroy the base with minimal losses.

    What would have been more useful would have been the drop ships used in the Clone Wars. They could have flown straight to the generator, blown it up and allowed for orbital bombardment.

    Guess they were no longer in use.

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    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    OK, after consulting geek wiki's on the subject (soooo busy at work). It appears that the energy shield protecting the base extended down mostly to the ground.

    Only slow moving objects, like the AT-ATs could penetrate it (like you saw with the shields on the battle of Naboo, with droids walking through them).

    Also, Tie Fighters aren't designed for atmospheric flight, and don't handle well planetside. Add in the cold and bad conditions of Hoth I guess they decided on just ground forces. Worked fairly well for them, they did destroy the base with minimal losses.

    What would have been more useful would have been the drop ships used in the Clone Wars. They could have flown straight to the generator, blown it up and allowed for orbital bombardment.

    Guess they were no longer in use.

    Could these factors also have been the reason that Hoth was chosen as the Rebel base? They certainly evacuated in good order.

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    @NTA said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Nup they used snow speeders to bring down the AT-AT walkers approaching the Rebel base.

    All the other craft only exited atmosphere directly

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Nerd justification: hadn't been adapted to the cold, like the snowspeeders.

    Space isn't warm 😉

    I knew what you meant. Atmospheric cold - wind and snow n shit.

    Space can be hot and cold, particularly for metal. For example;

    "A piece of bare metal in space, under constant sunlight can get as hot as two-hundred-sixty (260) degrees Celsius. This is dangerous to astronauts who have to work outside the station.

    If they need to handle bare metal, they wrap it in special coatings or blankets to protect themselves.

    And yet, in the shade, an object will cool down to below -100 degrees Celsius."

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    OK, after consulting geek wiki's on the subject (soooo busy at work). It appears that the energy shield protecting the base extended down mostly to the ground.

    Only slow moving objects, like the AT-ATs could penetrate it (like you saw with the shields on the battle of Naboo, with droids walking through them).

    Also, Tie Fighters aren't designed for atmospheric flight, and don't handle well planetside. Add in the cold and bad conditions of Hoth I guess they decided on just ground forces. Worked fairly well for them, they did destroy the base with minimal losses.

    What would have been more useful would have been the drop ships used in the Clone Wars. They could have flown straight to the generator, blown it up and allowed for orbital bombardment.

    Guess they were no longer in use.

    Could these factors also have been the reason that Hoth was chosen as the Rebel base? They certainly evacuated in good order.

    Maybe, certainly they used the conditions well to evacuate. And remember, if anybody else but Vader had seen the probe's findings they would have been dismissed as just an off chart colony, so it was well disguised and in the boondocks.

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    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    OK, after consulting geek wiki's on the subject (soooo busy at work). It appears that the energy shield protecting the base extended down mostly to the ground.

    Only slow moving objects, like the AT-ATs could penetrate it (like you saw with the shields on the battle of Naboo, with droids walking through them).

    Also, Tie Fighters aren't designed for atmospheric flight, and don't handle well planetside. Add in the cold and bad conditions of Hoth I guess they decided on just ground forces. Worked fairly well for them, they did destroy the base with minimal losses.

    What would have been more useful would have been the drop ships used in the Clone Wars. They could have flown straight to the generator, blown it up and allowed for orbital bombardment.

    Guess they were no longer in use.

    Could these factors also have been the reason that Hoth was chosen as the Rebel base? They certainly evacuated in good order.

    Maybe, certainly they used the conditions well to evacuate. And remember, if anybody else but Vader had seen the probe's findings they would have been dismissed as just an off chart colony, so it was well disguised and in the boondocks.

    That's it. I think they chose it because it was remote and apparently uninhabited (Han said "There's not enough life on this ball of ice to fill a star cruiser")

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    Tie fighters seem brittle as fuck too. Glancing hits are capable of destroying them.

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    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11771137

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    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Tie fighters seem brittle as fuck too. Glancing hits are capable of destroying them.

    In the computer games, all the Rebel fighters come with shields, while the TIE fighter (standard) has none. The TIE is more maneuverable, and has great numbers, though.

    The advanced models have shields.

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    @NTA said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    @MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Tie fighters seem brittle as fuck too. Glancing hits are capable of destroying them.

    In the computer games, all the Rebel fighters come with shields, while the TIE fighter (standard) has none. The TIE is more maneuverable, and has great numbers, though.

    The advanced models have shields.

    ....wow....and you called me a nerd....

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  • NTAN Online
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    Was big into flight simulators on the PC back then. Space sims like X-Wing and Wing Commander were a phase. No pesky gravity.

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    Not great news...

    http://nzh.tw/11772696

    Star Wars star Carrie Fisher has reportedly suffered a massive heart attack on an international flight.

    TMZ has reported Fisher went into cardiac arrest on the flight from London to Los Angeles.

    Other passengers helped administer CPR.

    The plane landed at LAX, where paramedics rushed on board and took Fisher to hospital, TMZ reported.

    A spokesman for the Los Angeles Fire Department has spoken about the dramatic scenes on the plane as paramedics tried to save Fisher's life after it landed.

    "At 12:11 pm the Los Angeles Fire Department responded to a call from LAX for a patient in cardiac arrest," the spokesman told USA Today.

    "Firefighter paramedics provided advanced life support and aggressively treated the patient whom was transported to a local hospital."

    The Los Angeles Times is reporting that Fisher is in a critical condition in hospital, quoting an emergency services source.

    United Airlines has also said the crew of Flight 935 had reported a passenger had become unresponsive as the plane neared LA.

    "Our thoughts are with our customer at this time," the airline said.

    Fisher became a global movie star after playing Princess Leia in the original Star Wars trilogy.

    She has recently been on a book tour.

    Fisher, 60, was one of the three main stars of the original Star Wars movies, with Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford.

    The trio reunited for last year's Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

    She is also a member of the cast of next year's Star Wars: Episode VIII which is currently in production.

    Fisher was travelling from London to the US on a United Airlines flight.

    In a series of tweets, fellow actress Anna Akana wrote of the drama that unfolded mid-flight.

    "Don't know how else to process this but Carrie Fisher stopped breathing on the flight home. Hope she's gonna be OK," she wrote.

    "So many thanks to the United flight crew who jumped into action, and the awesome doctor and nurse passengers who helped."

    In a wide ranging interview with Rolling Stone magazine published late last month, Fisher opened up about her fear of dying, having an affair with a then-married Ford, why she still loves the music of her ex-husband Paul Simon and the trappings of fame after the Star Wars trilogy.

    "I fear dying. Anything with pain associated with it, I don't like," she told Rolling Stone when asked if she feared death.

    "I've been there for a couple of people when they were dying; it didn't look like fun. But if I was gonna do it, I'd want someone like me around. And I will be there!"

    She also talked about fame and the adulation which followed her appearance in the first Star Wars movie, then Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

    "The best part is money, travelling and the people you meet. The worst part is, again, money, travel and the people you meet," she responded when asked for the best and worst parts of success.

    In the interview, Fisher spoke openly about her relationship with Harrison during filming of the Star Wars movie. The affair also features prominently in her latest book, The Princess Diarist.

    The book is based on diaries Fisher wrote during her acting heyday.

    Fisher said she had warned Harrison about the contents of the book before it was published.

    "Yeah. I told him I found the diaries, which I had not seen since I'd written them and that I was gonna publish them," she told Rolling Stone.

    "He just said, 'lawyer'. I told him he could take out anything he didn't like. I sent it to him, but he never commented. I guess he didn't loathe anything. I know the whole thing embarrasses him. That's what it's for, to embarrass all of us again."

    The pair had never previously confirmed their much-rumoured relationship.

    When asked if she felt a sense of relief about the truth finally being out there, she told Rolling Stone: "No. It's just some big overgrown cat out a bag that could have stayed closed, I suppose. But people have been speculating about it, though it was not something we ever discussed. It was just this elephant in the room. And to this day I feel nervous around him."

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    Leaked footage of the Rogue One sequel...

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    @Stockcar86 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    Leaked footage of the Rogue One sequel...

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    Great CGI!

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    I really enjoyed it there were a few lines that just didn't land that well. But that's star wars.

    Interesting note on the CGI I took my wife and she is not a star wars fan really she mentioned how The Princess Leia CGI looked a bit off but not really remembering who Grand Moff Tarkin was never mentioned him.

    They weren't perfect recreations but damn I was impressed with them.

    Also I thought the droid was the best character so many good one liners, and it was great to see Vader tear it up.

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    So now that the rebels have the plans for the Death Star, I take it Darth just cans it and starts again?

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    @Bones said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:

    So now that the rebels have the plans for the Death Star, I take it Darth just cans it and starts again?

    Who knows what's gonna happen but I reckon if the rebels can track down someone who can bullseye Womp rats from a T16 then they're in with a chance

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    Looks like it may be a good idea to binge on SW Rebels if you haven't been watching it. It has moved on from being a kiddie show to being an important part of the new canon showing the formation of the Rebel Alliance. Vader makes appearances and Darth Maul is somehow glued back together to become a multi faceted character. Some interesting stuff coming about the Mandalorians (possibly setting up the Boba Fett movies we all want). They have also invested heavily in the development of the main character Ezra and it is difficult to see how he doesn't somehow become a part of the general movie background given that he must either die or go off on some force related mission after his friends die ( I guess he is around Luke's age).
    The appearance of Alec Guinness era Obi Wan facing Darth Maul again could be pretty good too.

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    Foxtel has just run the seven Star Wars movies back to back to back ... a couple of times.

    I was a fan of the original trilogy, and obviously the first one (Ep IV).

    So having not very strong memories of the prequels I have recorded them.

    Watched Episode I this arvo.

    My god what an unmitigated piece of shit of a movie.

    Gungan army?
    Jar Jar fucking Binks?

    The story barely held together.

    Fuck me he spent half an hour on a meaningless pod race when he could have actually explained Jedis, Sith, Trade Federation, and given some depth to the characters.

    The CGI looked like a cartoon. Ever seen 'Atlantis:The Lost Empire'?

    You nerds need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    If you've ever seen 'Fanboys' it makes the line about "Dude, what if this turns out to be crap?" even funnier.

    Really really disappointed. Which reminds me what I thought when I first saw it.

    Will subject myself to Ep ii and Ep iii some time in the coming weeks ... but iirc i never saw iii as by halfway through ii I had lost interest.

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