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good to see this is still getting headlines, although not for the right reasons. What should be a story is the subject of this thread title and the fact Social media has created a pretty messed up world.
As is the modern way, Bridger reported the exchange on social media, but felt she had to remove the post when Leitch became the target of nasty and threatening comments.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/opinion/88151854/editorial-what-does-a-white-mans-island-look-like
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Well looks like the whole country is getting on the racist bandwagon according to the perpetually butthurt. Fuck a duck, imagine the furore if she was indeed a foreign citizen and recieved subsidised care when she shouldnt have? ……
Newsflash dickwads. He sounds foreign. She looks AND sounds foreign. It's not racist to say that, it's a fact and if they don't like someone asking standard questions and doing their due diligence then perhaps they should indeed 'fuck off back to their own countries'
fluffybunnies like these probably thought Moana was racist too.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/88111323/racist-passport-request-riles
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What a crock of shit. DHB's around the country have been stung by foreign citizens getting treatment then skipping away without paying their sizable bills. Of course a practice should show due diligence when it comes to checking - the practice manager would be fucking pissed if they had to cover an unpaid bill. Especially in the case of a casual patient whose NHI number couldn't be found on the database!!
Stories like this really fuck me off. When I lived overseas and needed medical care, I showed my resident visa and health card to prove I was entitled to the cheap local rate. It's no fucking different.
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Tourists and illegal imigrants can get NZ drivers licences now huh?
The woman showed her DL as identification.
The receptionist was at fault here.
The patient has ben here slightly less years than Lydia Ko. The patient has suficiently met the NZ criteria for being a resident, why is she in any way blameworthy for the fraudulent use of health services
Agree its hardly newsworthy but whats the patient done wrong?
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@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Tourists and illegal imigrants can get NZ drivers licences now huh?
The woman showed her DL as identification.
The receptionist was at fault here.
The patient has ben here slightly less years than Lydia Ko. The patient has suficiently met the NZ criteria for being a resident, why is she in any way blameworthy for the fraudulent use of health services
Agree its hardly newsworthy but whats the patient done wrong?
@Siam
Seriously Siam, do some research. Because YES visitors can get NZ drivers licence....You are wrong and the receptionist was correct.
The patient has been an obnoxious bitch.
It does illustrate the ineptness/dishonesty of the media though... why didnt the journalist educate readers that the receptionist was correct? That a DL is about as much proof of residency as a Starbucks loyalty card? b There will be lots of people like Siam who needed that information.
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Perhaps even delve deeper into the DHB register database as to how a receptionist can't find a surname in the search function.
The head of the clinic surmised it could have been a spelling discrepancy.
No mention of the two parties engaging in a simple discussion of "let me try to find you in the system, how do you spell..." Then a DL would have been sufficient right?
Interesting that a passport will unlock the database info but not a DL
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@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Perhaps even delve deeper into the DHB register database as to how a receptionist can't find a surname in the search function.
The head of the clinic surmised it could have been a spelling discrepancy.
No mention of the two parties engaging in a simple discussion of "let me try to find you in the system, how do you spell..." Then a DL would have been sufficient right?
Interesting that a passport will unlock the database info but not a DL
I've not turned up on their system before, but it's not even about that. Some people have to show proof to avoid abuse of the system.
That's a responsible system.
She looks Thai, sounds Thai, completely reasonable to ask for a passport when she didn't turn up in the search. Not remotely racist and she should have just turned up with the appropriate documentation.
Same rules are applied to everyone.
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@Kirwan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Perhaps even delve deeper into the DHB register database as to how a receptionist can't find a surname in the search function.
The head of the clinic surmised it could have been a spelling discrepancy.
No mention of the two parties engaging in a simple discussion of "let me try to find you in the system, how do you spell..." Then a DL would have been sufficient right?
Interesting that a passport will unlock the database info but not a DL
I've not turned up on their system before, but it's not even about that. Some people have to show proof to avoid abuse of the system.
That's a responsible system.
She looks Thai, sounds Thai, completely reasonable to ask for a passport when she didn't turn up in the search. Not remotely racist and she should have just turned up with the appropriate documentation.
Same rules are applied to everyone.
I went to the servo yesterday to fill the car up. Not only did the Indian guy behind the counter not smile he didn't even ask how my day had been.
Definite racism. I'm going to the media while the topic is still hot
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@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Perhaps even delve deeper into the DHB register database as to how a receptionist can't find a surname in the search function.
The head of the clinic surmised it could have been a spelling discrepancy.
No mention of the two parties engaging in a simple discussion of "let me try to find you in the system, how do you spell..." Then a DL would have been sufficient right?
Interesting that a passport will unlock the database info but not a DL
Oh so now you accept that a DL is not sufficient ID of citizenship or residency?
Now you accept it was likely a spelling error?Where exactly is the racist element in this then?
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Say what?
Be thankful for small mercies in life Jegga. It's not that foul mouthed South African whale at least.....
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Ok fair enough - all NZers must bring pasports to a new gp visit because its impossible to define what a new zealand citizen looks like - good to know
I thought this quote was relevant "When a casual patient comes to the centre, it was policy to check their name against a national register that includes the patients of every GP in the country." Hence my questioning of why this didnt help alleviate the situation.
Did the receptionist search?I guess the patient is guilty of not bringing enough id. After 10 years here that would be frustrating and surprising, but no need to get go bleating.
I assume the receptionist "couldn't have handled things better" sic
I dont like that a stupid story is made of this trivial encounter ( i guess thats what the thread is about). And I gues its a downside of freedom of speech rights
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@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Say what?
Be thankful for small mercies in life Jegga. It's not that foul mouthed South African whale at least.....
She had a book out for Xmas, not a cookbook either
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Say what?
Be thankful for small mercies in life Jegga. It's not that foul mouthed South African whale at least.....
She had a book out for Xmas, not a cookbook either
Is it a book on comedy?
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Perhaps even delve deeper into the DHB register database as to how a receptionist can't find a surname in the search function.
The head of the clinic surmised it could have been a spelling discrepancy.
No mention of the two parties engaging in a simple discussion of "let me try to find you in the system, how do you spell..." Then a DL would have been sufficient right?
Interesting that a passport will unlock the database info but not a DL
Oh so now you accept that a DL is not sufficient ID of citizenship or residency?
Now you accept it was likely a spelling error?Where exactly is the racist element in this then?
Yes ive been seriously educated about the limitw of DLs as a robust form of id.
Thanks, no seriously, thanks
I mentined spelling in relation to the clinic heads quote - do some research on what was said
Racist element: well since i never mentioned that, i asume thats a question. So my answer is that the receptionist went about her procedure based on the physical apearance of a NZ citizen, thats apparently the definition of racial profiling
Now now dont get upset, its purely a definition and as Milo Y quite rightly says, "dont give words power". Its neither god nor bad, its just a word that defines actions, and as you know its a judgement that al people exercise in their heads hundreds of times every day. Our government deems it inappropriate in the work place
Does that satisfy your question unrelated to my post?
