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Six Nations 2017

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
    How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

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    @Crucial

    Yeah, he was pretty average, flipside is when Sarries won the Heiniken Cup last year he was MOTM in the Quarter, the Semi & the Final..

    So he can turn it on. Personally I think the kids an absolute superstar

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
      How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

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      @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

      I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
      How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

      So it just wasn't me then....

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        @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

        I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
        How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

        So it just wasn't me then....

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        @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

        @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

        I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
        How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

        So it just wasn't me then....

        That Eddie has an electric probe up inside of?

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        • KruseK Kruse

          @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

          @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

          I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
          How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

          So it just wasn't me then....

          That Eddie has an electric probe up inside of?

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          @Kruse said in Six Nations 2017:

          @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

          @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

          I watched most of that Saracens game on the weekend and can only assume that Eddie Jones has some kind of electric probe he inserts up Itoje to make him effective for England. He did absolutely sweet FA all game. Even with expectations of a club lock he was ineffective. Continually jogging from ruck to ruck. He's certainly no Whitelock or Rettalick when it comes to workrate and also looks to be struggling with getting himself down low enough for non risk tackles.
          How this makes him the saviour of the injured back row I have no idea.

          So it just wasn't me then....

          That Eddie has an electric probe up inside of?

          Yes. Or Mark McCall needs to replace the batteries in his one..

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              No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

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              • BonesB Bones

                No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

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                Crucial
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                @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                Yep.

                WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                Dominic Day
                Taulupe Faletau
                George North
                Rhys Priestland
                Jamie Roberts
                Nicky Thomas
                Rhodri Williams

                There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                  No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                  Yep.

                  WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                  *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                  Dominic Day
                  Taulupe Faletau
                  George North
                  Rhys Priestland
                  Jamie Roberts
                  Nicky Thomas
                  Rhodri Williams

                  There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

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                  @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                  @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                  No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                  Yep.

                  WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                  *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                  Dominic Day
                  Taulupe Faletau
                  George North
                  Rhys Priestland
                  Jamie Roberts
                  Nicky Thomas
                  Rhodri Williams

                  There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

                  I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

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                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                    @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                    No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                    Yep.

                    WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                    *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                    Dominic Day
                    Taulupe Faletau
                    George North
                    Rhys Priestland
                    Jamie Roberts
                    Nicky Thomas
                    Rhodri Williams

                    There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

                    I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

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                    Crucial
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                    @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                    @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                    No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                    Yep.

                    WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                    *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                    Dominic Day
                    Taulupe Faletau
                    George North
                    Rhys Priestland
                    Jamie Roberts
                    Nicky Thomas
                    Rhodri Williams

                    There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

                    I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

                    FIIK.

                    Welsh logic?

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                    • CrucialC Crucial

                      @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                      @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                      @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                      No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                      Yep.

                      WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                      *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                      Dominic Day
                      Taulupe Faletau
                      George North
                      Rhys Priestland
                      Jamie Roberts
                      Nicky Thomas
                      Rhodri Williams

                      There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

                      I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

                      FIIK.

                      Welsh logic?

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                      Catogrande
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                      @Crucial Ah. That explains a lot. Thanks.

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                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                        @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                        No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                        Yep.

                        WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                        *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                        Dominic Day
                        Taulupe Faletau
                        George North
                        Rhys Priestland
                        Jamie Roberts
                        Nicky Thomas
                        Rhodri Williams

                        There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

                        I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

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                        Derm McCrum
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                        @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                        @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                        No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                        Yep.

                        WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                        *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                        Dominic Day
                        Taulupe Faletau
                        George North
                        Rhys Priestland
                        Jamie Roberts
                        Nicky Thomas
                        Rhodri Williams

                        There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

                        I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

                        They signed overseas before Gatland's Law was introduced so are not affected. http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/37316886

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                        • D Derm McCrum

                          @Catogrande said in Six Nations 2017:

                          @Crucial said in Six Nations 2017:

                          @Bones said in Six Nations 2017:

                          No Anscombe? I assume a "wildcard" is a player selected from Overseas?

                          Yep.

                          WRU explain the system here http://www.wru.co.uk/eng/wales/news/wales/37155.php#.WH4Xe1WLTRY

                          *Seven players are captured for the 2016/17 season:
                          Dominic Day
                          Taulupe Faletau
                          George North
                          Rhys Priestland
                          Jamie Roberts
                          Nicky Thomas
                          Rhodri Williams

                          There are three wildcard selections available for each Wales campaign during the 2016/17 season from the seven names listed above.*

                          I'm not sure if I'm missing something here or not but what about Halfpenny, Tomas Francis and Thomas Young? They all play outside of Wales.

                          They signed overseas before Gatland's Law was introduced so are not affected. http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/37316886

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                          @Pot-Hale OK, thanks PH, that makes sense of a sort.

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                              French squad for the 6 Nations:

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                                French squad for the 6 Nations:

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                                gollum
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                                @Stargazer

                                Their Kiwi / Samoan prop (Atonio) is 6'5 & 155kg. I guess he balances out no Bastaraud

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                                  Derm McCrum
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                                  Joe Schmidt looking to extract the most from Six Nations squad hopefuls with his squad announcement not named until Sunday - after the final round of Heineken Cup matches in which Leinster, Munster and Connacht are competing for quarterfinal places and ideally home ground advantage.

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                                    England Squad

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                                      I only just realised how big those squads are.

                                      Scotland have 22 forwards in their squad!

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        I only just realised how big those squads are.

                                        Scotland have 22 forwards in their squad!

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                                        Margin_Walker
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                                        @Crucial

                                        Yeah, training squads though I guess. Will be a bunch of players released back to their clubs in the run up to each game.

                                        For England, I think Catt, Williams and Lozowski are the only uncapped players. With Catt perhaps the best chance of getting into the 23.

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                                          I wonder what the contract rules are (if any)?
                                          In NZ if you get named in an AB squad you get paid accordingly whether used or not. That's why Hansen and Co often have to plead their case for an extra player or two to the bean counters before a tour

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