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Six Nations 2017

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    Crucial
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    I wonder what the contract rules are (if any)?
    In NZ if you get named in an AB squad you get paid accordingly whether used or not. That's why Hansen and Co often have to plead their case for an extra player or two to the bean counters before a tour

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      I'd be guessing, but assume for England you get a decent steady income for being part of the Elite Player Squad that's revised twice a year and a match fee for being part of the 23 on game day. Not sure how players not part of the EPS and that don't end up on the pitch are paid.

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        Re England, I found this

        "The Professional Game Agreement will see the England Elite Player Squad (EPS) increase from 33 to 45 players and greater flexibility during core international periods so 36 players can be selected for the camp instead of 33. The England head coach will now also be able to make the final selection of 45 squad members in the first week of October. A reduced number of 20 players will also be selected as part of a Next EPS squad for training camps and possible England Saxons fixtures. "

        Logically I would then guess that you get paid something for being in the EPS, extra for being in the camp and extra again as match fees/image rights/win bonuses if in the 23 on game day.
        Not a lot different to the NZ system where your base salary for the following year is increased if named in an AB Squad.

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          Prop
          Pietro CECCARELLI (Zebre Rugby, 5 caps)
          Dario CHISTOLINI (Zebre Rugby, 15 caps)
          Lorenzo CITTADINI (Aviron Bayonnais, 53 caps)
          Andrea LOVOTTI (Zebre Rugby, 9 caps)
          Sami PANICO (Patarò Calvisano, 6 caps)

          Hooker
          Tommaso D’APICE (Zebre Rugby, 11 caps)
          Ornel GEGA (Benetton Treviso, 8 caps)
          Leonardo GHIRALDINI (Stade Toulousain, 82 caps)

          Lock
          George Fabio BIAGI (Zebre Rugby, 14 caps)
          Joshua FURNO (Zebre Rugby, 36 caps)
          Marco FUSER (Benetton Treviso, 16 caps)
          Federico RUZZA (Zebre Rugby, new cap)
          Andries VAN SCHALKWYK (Zebre Rugby, 8 caps)

          Flanker/no.8
          Marco BARBINI (Benetton Treviso, 2 caps)
          Simone FAVARO (Glasgow Warriors, 33 caps)
          Maxime Mata MBANDA’ (Zebre Rugby, 3 caps)
          Francesco MINTO (Benetton Treviso, 31 caps)
          Sergio PARISSE (Stade Francais, 121 caps) – capitano
          Abraham Jurgens STEYN (Benetton Treviso, 6 caps)

          Halfback
          Giorgio BRONZINI (Benetton Treviso, 3 caps)
          Edoardo GORI (Benetton Treviso, 56 caps)
          Marcello VIOLI (Zebre Rugby, 2 caps)

          1st five eight
          Tommaso ALLAN (Benetton Treviso, 27 caps)
          Carlo CANNA (Zebre Rugby, 15 caps)

          Midfield
          Tommaso BENVENUTI (Benetton Treviso, 37 caps)
          Tommaso BONI (Zebre Rugby, 2 caps)
          Michele CAMPAGNARO (Exeter Chiefs, 25 caps)
          Luke MCLEAN (Benetton Treviso, 84 caps)

          Wing
          Giulio BISEGNI (Zebre Rugby, 5 caps)
          Angelo ESPOSITO (Benetton Treviso, 8 caps)
          Giovambattista VENDITTI (Zebre Rugby, 38 caps)

          Fullback
          Edoardo PADOVANI (Zebre Rugby, 6 caps)

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            Big blow for France. Fofana out with a ruptured Achilles

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              Big blow for France. Fofana out with a ruptured Achilles

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              #79

              @Crucial Yes, I just watched the Clermont v Exeter Chiefs game and it certainly looked bad! Lamerat is a great, new asset for the French though!

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                Ireland squad for the first two rounds.

                Hooker Niall Scannell is named in the forwards and is one of the three uncapped players in the squad. Scannell captained the Ireland Under-20s at the Junior World Championship in 2012, leading them to the semi-final.

                That U-20 squad also included the likes of Tadhg Furlong, Iain Henderson, Jack Conan and Luke McGrath who are all named in the Ireland squad today.

                Andrew Conway, who featured for the Ireland Wolfhounds in 2015, and Rory Scannell, brother of Niall, are the uncapped players named among the 18 backs in the squad.

                Ireland travel to both Edinburgh and Rome over the course of first two rounds of this year's Championship, facing Scotland at Murrayfield on Saturday, February 4 before flying to Rome to take on Conor O'Shea's Italian side on Saturday, February 11.

                Ireland head coach Joe Schmidt commented: "It has been good to watch the players over the past two months and great to see many of them doing so well.

                "As always, there were some difficult decisions but we feel that the group is a good mix with a number of key players having good experience and a number of newer players having gained valuable experience and confidence during the summer tour to South Africa and the recent GUINNESS November Series."

                IRELAND Squad (2017 RBS 6 Nations - Rounds 1&2):

                Player/Club/Province/Caps -

                Backs (18):

                Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster) 67 caps
                Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) *
                Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 54 caps
                Craig Gilroy (Bangor/Ulster) 9 caps
                Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 24 caps
                Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster) 19 caps
                Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 72 caps
                Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) 9 caps
                Luke Marshall (Ballymena/Ulster) 9 caps
                Stuart McCloskey (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 1 cap
                Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 1 cap
                Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 53 caps
                Tiernan O'Halloran (Buccaneers/Connacht) 3 caps
                Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 3 caps
                Rory Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) *
                Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 63 caps
                Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster) 69 caps
                Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster) 28 caps

                Forwards (22):

                Finlay Bealham (Buccaneers/Connacht) 6 caps
                Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) (capt) 100 caps
                Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster) 1 cap
                Ultan Dillane (Corinthians/Connacht) 8 caps
                Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 11 caps
                Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 62 caps
                Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster) (vice-capt) 91 caps
                Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 28 caps
                Billy Holland (Cork Constitution/Munster) 1 cap
                Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 17 caps
                Dan Leavy (UCD/Leinster) 1 cap
                Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 36 caps
                Sean O'Brien (UCD/Leinster) 44 caps
                Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster) 12 caps
                Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 37 caps
                Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster) 43 caps
                John Ryan (Cork Constitution/Munster) 1 cap
                Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) *
                CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 10 caps
                Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 42 caps
                James Tracy (UCD/Leinster) 1 cap
                Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 5 caps

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                  Ireland squad for the first two rounds.

                  Hooker Niall Scannell is named in the forwards and is one of the three uncapped players in the squad. Scannell captained the Ireland Under-20s at the Junior World Championship in 2012, leading them to the semi-final.

                  That U-20 squad also included the likes of Tadhg Furlong, Iain Henderson, Jack Conan and Luke McGrath who are all named in the Ireland squad today.

                  Andrew Conway, who featured for the Ireland Wolfhounds in 2015, and Rory Scannell, brother of Niall, are the uncapped players named among the 18 backs in the squad.

                  Ireland travel to both Edinburgh and Rome over the course of first two rounds of this year's Championship, facing Scotland at Murrayfield on Saturday, February 4 before flying to Rome to take on Conor O'Shea's Italian side on Saturday, February 11.

                  Ireland head coach Joe Schmidt commented: "It has been good to watch the players over the past two months and great to see many of them doing so well.

                  "As always, there were some difficult decisions but we feel that the group is a good mix with a number of key players having good experience and a number of newer players having gained valuable experience and confidence during the summer tour to South Africa and the recent GUINNESS November Series."

                  IRELAND Squad (2017 RBS 6 Nations - Rounds 1&2):

                  Player/Club/Province/Caps -

                  Backs (18):

                  Tommy Bowe (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster) 67 caps
                  Andrew Conway (Garryowen/Munster) *
                  Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster) 54 caps
                  Craig Gilroy (Bangor/Ulster) 9 caps
                  Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Leinster) 24 caps
                  Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster) 19 caps
                  Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster) 72 caps
                  Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht) 9 caps
                  Luke Marshall (Ballymena/Ulster) 9 caps
                  Stuart McCloskey (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 1 cap
                  Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) 1 cap
                  Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster) 53 caps
                  Tiernan O'Halloran (Buccaneers/Connacht) 3 caps
                  Garry Ringrose (UCD/Leinster) 3 caps
                  Rory Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) *
                  Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 63 caps
                  Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster) 69 caps
                  Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster) 28 caps

                  Forwards (22):

                  Finlay Bealham (Buccaneers/Connacht) 6 caps
                  Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster) (capt) 100 caps
                  Jack Conan (Old Belvedere/Leinster) 1 cap
                  Ultan Dillane (Corinthians/Connacht) 8 caps
                  Tadhg Furlong (Clontarf/Leinster) 11 caps
                  Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster) 62 caps
                  Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster) (vice-capt) 91 caps
                  Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster) 28 caps
                  Billy Holland (Cork Constitution/Munster) 1 cap
                  Dave Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster) 17 caps
                  Dan Leavy (UCD/Leinster) 1 cap
                  Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster) 36 caps
                  Sean O'Brien (UCD/Leinster) 44 caps
                  Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster) 12 caps
                  Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster) 37 caps
                  Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster) 43 caps
                  John Ryan (Cork Constitution/Munster) 1 cap
                  Niall Scannell (Dolphin/Munster) *
                  CJ Stander (Shannon/Munster) 10 caps
                  Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster) 42 caps
                  James Tracy (UCD/Leinster) 1 cap
                  Josh van der Flier (UCD/Leinster) 5 caps

                  • Denotes uncapped player
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                  Derm McCrum
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                  #81

                  @Pot-Hale

                  Interestingly, Stander is the only residency player included.

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                    Interesting to see that Steady Eddie is going down the Clive Woodward path and employing the same 'vision coach' that SCW did for the Lions tour to NZ.

                    Apparently the players need to improve their peripheral vision because they spend too long with their eyes on their cell phones.

                    Maybe the better way to improve hand eye coordination is to pass the ball around without it being pre-structured? Just saying.

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                      Steady Eddie confirmed Hartley as captain for opening game. No surprises there and I get why Jones wants him as captain but still think it is a poor look for the game when someone who has probably the worst disciplinary record in the international game is given such a high profile position.

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                        Derm McCrum
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                        #84

                        Eddie Jones sporting a black eye at today's press conference. He said he slipped in the shower.

                        Warren Gatland sported a bandage on his head at the Lions press conference a while ago - reason - he slipped in the bathroom.....

                        Just saying like...

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                          Eddie Jones sporting a black eye at today's press conference. He said he slipped in the shower.

                          Warren Gatland sported a bandage on his head at the Lions press conference a while ago - reason - he slipped in the bathroom.....

                          Just saying like...

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                          @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                          Eddie Jones sporting a black eye at today's press conference. He said he slipped in the shower.

                          Warren Gatland sported a bandage on his head at the Lions press conference a while ago - reason - he slipped in the bathroom.....

                          Just saying like...

                          Saying what? They were having 'pass the soap' games that went wrong?

                          Jones looked like Hartley had gone to town on his head at the bottom of a ruck.

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                            High tackle sanctions, bonus points the talk of Six Nations launch

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                              Good news:

                              http://twitter.com/skysportnz/status/824770225648214017

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                                Reports are that Marler is going to now be fit for selection this weekend. His leg 'break' has healed quickly.
                                Must have visited Naholo's witch doctor.

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                                  England retain 25 players for the lead up to the France game.

                                  Forwards

                                  Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Matt Mullan (Wasps), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints).

                                  Backs

                                  Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers).

                                  Papers seem to think the starting lineup will be:

                                  15 Brown
                                  14 Nowell
                                  13 Joseph
                                  12 Farrell
                                  11 May
                                  10 Ford
                                  9 Youngs
                                  1 Marler
                                  2 Hartley (c)
                                  3 Cole
                                  4 Lawes
                                  5 Kruis (injury in training today being assessed, so may be Launchbury)
                                  6 Itoje
                                  7 Wood
                                  8 Hughes

                                  In other news, Sexton ruled out of the Scotland game with a calf injury.

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                                    England retain 25 players for the lead up to the France game.

                                    Forwards

                                    Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Matt Mullan (Wasps), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints).

                                    Backs

                                    Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers).

                                    Papers seem to think the starting lineup will be:

                                    15 Brown
                                    14 Nowell
                                    13 Joseph
                                    12 Farrell
                                    11 May
                                    10 Ford
                                    9 Youngs
                                    1 Marler
                                    2 Hartley (c)
                                    3 Cole
                                    4 Lawes
                                    5 Kruis (injury in training today being assessed, so may be Launchbury)
                                    6 Itoje
                                    7 Wood
                                    8 Hughes

                                    In other news, Sexton ruled out of the Scotland game with a calf injury.

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                                    @Margin_Walker what has happened to Tuilagi?

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                                      @Margin_Walker what has happened to Tuilagi?

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                                      @MN5

                                      Season ending knee injury. He's not really in the conversation England wise these days, as he can't seem to get himself on the pitch for more than a month or two before breaking something. Isn't related to his previous groin problem, so hopefully he'll get over it.

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                                        Four more sleeps.

                                        I can't wait.....

                                        🤹

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                                          Four more sleeps.

                                          I can't wait.....

                                          🤹

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                                          @Pot-Hale said in Six Nations 2017:

                                          Four more sleeps.

                                          I can't wait.....

                                          🤹

                                          Me too! Off to Twickenham this weekend for a work junket. Will be a great opener, forecast looking like rain though.

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