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NZ v SA Test Series

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  • MokeyM Offline
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    Congrats to Nicholls for bringing up his first century. We really needed it today. Nice support work by Watling too, and the cameo by Southee at the end got us up to 268 which is short but not dreadful.

    Getting the two wickets at the end was a big bonus. The quicks will be licking their lips at getting into their work first thing in the morning. Oh, to have Boult. Ah well.

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    • No QuarterN Offline
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      No Quarter
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      Didn't catch a ball today, fucking work, but great to see Nicholls confirmed as our number 5 batsmen for the next 6 years. I still think there's some defensive flaws that need work but you can't deny his potential, mentally he appears pretty strong, some good knocks against quality opposition under his belt now. 118 against SA on day one of a test is nothing to be sneezed at.

      CDGH to take another 6 tomorrow...

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      • gollumG Offline
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        Great from Nichols, shows the bonus of picking a good young guy who can tweak his technique & grow into being a test player. Anbd has the time to be in that team for 8 more years.

        As opposed to picking mid thirties guys.

        Odd lack of "what would Guppy do at 5!" this morning...

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        • gollumG gollum

          Great from Nichols, shows the bonus of picking a good young guy who can tweak his technique & grow into being a test player. Anbd has the time to be in that team for 8 more years.

          As opposed to picking mid thirties guys.

          Odd lack of "what would Guppy do at 5!" this morning...

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          Tim
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          #304

          @gollum I think it's understood that he'd be better than Broom ...

          I would like us to only play one of Neesham, de Grandhomme, and Santner per test at most.

          Is it so strange to play 6 batsmen, 4 bowlers, and a wicket keeper?

          BTW, Santner's test averages are 25.11 for batting, and 39.70 for bowling.

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          • TimT Tim

            @gollum I think it's understood that he'd be better than Broom ...

            I would like us to only play one of Neesham, de Grandhomme, and Santner per test at most.

            Is it so strange to play 6 batsmen, 4 bowlers, and a wicket keeper?

            BTW, Santner's test averages are 25.11 for batting, and 39.70 for bowling.

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            @Tim

            To be honest I'd play Guppy in the middle order ahead of Broom too. 3

            But ideally I'd find the guy in NZ cricket with the best leave & best backfoot plaay who is under 25 & pick him. He can learn to play shots, learning to leave is the bit our guys cannot get their head round once they've played domestic for a while.

            I'm a little surprised Jesse Ryder hasn't been mentioned. He's a year younger than Broom & bowls well. If we are picking guys in their 30's he's in the frame.

            Actually I'd maybe rather him than guppy too. Despite his batting for the last 3 years being shithouse.

            @Tim said in NZ v SA Test Series:

            Is it so strange to play 6 batsmen, 4 bowlers, and a wicket keeper?

            Issue there is we usually only have - at best, 2 strike bowlers. So if we play 4, one is a spinner who is of little use for 3 days on NZ tracks (if then) & the other is a dibbler. So we need a 5th to try vary things. It briefly looked like Boult-Wagner-Southee might give us 3 strike bowlers, one with stamina (Wagner), but Southee is back to being eratic pigshit after an 18 month golden period a couple of years ago.

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            • G Offline
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              Well after putting the knife into Nicholls yesterday, he did a magnificent job. If he'd gone cheaply - game over.

              Hope our bowlers get a few early scalps this morning to keep things interesting.

              Gee Southee cops some flack on here. Wasn't he man of the match in 2 of his last 3 games before this series?

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              • TimT Tim

                @gollum I think it's understood that he'd be better than Broom ...

                I would like us to only play one of Neesham, de Grandhomme, and Santner per test at most.

                Is it so strange to play 6 batsmen, 4 bowlers, and a wicket keeper?

                BTW, Santner's test averages are 25.11 for batting, and 39.70 for bowling.

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                @Tim

                I think Neesham is a good enough bat to justify selection at number 6 without even thinking about his bowling. At worst he's about as good as any of the alternatives plus is a 4th bowling option. That makes his selection a no brainer for me, at least until we have someone clearly offering more with the bat. Corey Anderson might be a challenger as I think he's closer to being a genuine allrounder than Jimmy.

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                • G Gunner

                  Well after putting the knife into Nicholls yesterday, he did a magnificent job. If he'd gone cheaply - game over.

                  Hope our bowlers get a few early scalps this morning to keep things interesting.

                  Gee Southee cops some flack on here. Wasn't he man of the match in 2 of his last 3 games before this series?

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                  @Gunner said in NZ v SA Test Series:

                  Well after putting the knife into Nicholls yesterday, he did a magnificent job. If he'd gone cheaply - game over.

                  Yep! Same here. I like nothing more than being proven utterly wrong when I am anti a player.

                  It wasn't just a century, it was a century under intense pressure where someone had to turn the innings around. Doing that along with getting the 'Century monkey off his back' means that he has test fortitude and I don't mind summing that up after one good innings

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                  • gollumG gollum

                    @Tim

                    To be honest I'd play Guppy in the middle order ahead of Broom too. 3

                    But ideally I'd find the guy in NZ cricket with the best leave & best backfoot plaay who is under 25 & pick him. He can learn to play shots, learning to leave is the bit our guys cannot get their head round once they've played domestic for a while.

                    I'm a little surprised Jesse Ryder hasn't been mentioned. He's a year younger than Broom & bowls well. If we are picking guys in their 30's he's in the frame.

                    Actually I'd maybe rather him than guppy too. Despite his batting for the last 3 years being shithouse.

                    @Tim said in NZ v SA Test Series:

                    Is it so strange to play 6 batsmen, 4 bowlers, and a wicket keeper?

                    Issue there is we usually only have - at best, 2 strike bowlers. So if we play 4, one is a spinner who is of little use for 3 days on NZ tracks (if then) & the other is a dibbler. So we need a 5th to try vary things. It briefly looked like Boult-Wagner-Southee might give us 3 strike bowlers, one with stamina (Wagner), but Southee is back to being eratic pigshit after an 18 month golden period a couple of years ago.

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                    @gollum said in NZ v SA Test Series:

                    @Tim

                    To be honest I'd play Guppy in the middle order ahead of Broom too. 3

                    But ideally I'd find the guy in NZ cricket with the best leave & best backfoot plaay who is under 25 & pick him. He can learn to play shots, learning to leave is the bit our guys cannot get their head round once they've played domestic for a while.

                    I'm a little surprised Jesse Ryder hasn't been mentioned. He's a year younger than Broom & bowls well. If we are picking guys in their 30's he's in the frame.

                    Actually I'd maybe rather him than guppy too. Despite his batting for the last 3 years being shithouse.

                    @Tim said in NZ v SA Test Series:

                    Is it so strange to play 6 batsmen, 4 bowlers, and a wicket keeper?

                    Issue there is we usually only have - at best, 2 strike bowlers. So if we play 4, one is a spinner who is of little use for 3 days on NZ tracks (if then) & the other is a dibbler. So we need a 5th to try vary things. It briefly looked like Boult-Wagner-Southee might give us 3 strike bowlers, one with stamina (Wagner), but Southee is back to being eratic pigshit after an 18 month golden period a couple of years ago.

                    I think even the biggest Ryder fans ( like me ) have given up hope he'll ever have another go

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                    • Chris B.C Offline
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                      #310

                      Southee gets Rabada early to give us some momentum and, more importantly, to expose Duminy to the new ball. Need one of these two quickly so we can get Faf in against it as well.

                      Fat Jesse is surely nowhere in the frame. A part of our cricket resurgence has been founded on giving the boot to his many distractions and we are reaping the benefits of a "no dickheads" policy. Added to which, he's not even scoring runs so there's not even a slight temptation to hand out another chance.

                      I reckon his chances of ever playing for the Black Caps again are only slightly better than the chances of me getting a call-up - and that's only happening if there's a nuclear war and 99.9 percent of the population is wiped out!

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                        #311

                        Wagner comes into the attack and quickly gets Duminy.

                        Amla-Faf is an important partnership that needs to be broken quickly.

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                        • BovidaeB Offline
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                          #312

                          Nicholls is having one hell of a test so far. An excellent catch to dismiss Amla off CdG.

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                            Suddenly our score is looking quite useful.

                            Nicholls juggles the catch from Amla, but just holds on and SA are 79/5 (with a nightwatchman included in the 5).

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                              #314

                              Follow on passed, but another 182 runs to tie it up is a long way away

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                                Faf gone. Great catch BJ.

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                                  Going well so far. Need to keep up this intensity after lunch and not let them get easy runs.

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                                    Patel bowls the last over to de Kock and creates a couple of half-chances.

                                    80/4 in that session.

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      Didn't catch a ball today, fucking work, but great to see Nicholls confirmed as our number 5 batsmen for the next 6 years. I still think there's some defensive flaws that need work but you can't deny his potential, mentally he appears pretty strong, some good knocks against quality opposition under his belt now. 118 against SA on day one of a test is nothing to be sneezed at.

                                      CDGH to take another 6 tomorrow...

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                                      @No-Quarter said in NZ v SA Test Series:

                                      CDGH to take another 6 tomorrow...

                                      Careful now...

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                                      • G Offline
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                                        Holy shitballs.
                                        Step off a plane, check cricinfo, cannot believe my eyes!
                                        How impressive is that century looking now?

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                                          The jig music and claims of smiling eyes can fuck right off

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