B&I Lions 2017
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The shape of the coaching team is starting to point to an Anglo-Welsh majority in the squad make-up. Not surprising really. And probably the right mix given the Ireland implosion this tourney. At this point, I'd put Murray, Furlong, Stander, and possibly McGrath on the plane.
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@Crucial Remind me again what Neil Jenkins knows about winning in NZ?
@Catogrande The list would be short if you are wanting coaches with experience of winning in NZ as either a player or a coach.
As Gatland says, you will need two separate coaching teams for the first part of the tour so each team can be prepared.
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The shape of the coaching team is starting to point to an Anglo-Welsh majority in the squad make-up. Not surprising really. And probably the right mix given the Ireland implosion this tourney. At this point, I'd put Murray, Furlong, Stander, and possibly McGrath on the plane.
@Pot-Hale The Lions coaching team is pretty much the same as in Aust 2013 with the exception of the addition of Borthwick. The original 2013 Lions squad still had a large number of Irish.
Plenty of motivation for the Irish players to prove a point to Gatland this weekend.
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Yeah possibly. One-match wonders should not be touring though. The inconsistent performance from a lot of Ireland players is not what a Lions tour needs. And a lot of them need the kick up the arse that not being selected would do.
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Why is Farrell on the plane?
@antipodean Fuck knows.
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@Catogrande The list would be short if you are wanting coaches with experience of winning in NZ as either a player or a coach.
As Gatland says, you will need two separate coaching teams for the first part of the tour so each team can be prepared.
@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Catogrande The list would be short if you are wanting coaches with experience of winning in NZ as either a player or a coach.
As Gatland says, you will need two separate coaching teams for the first part of the tour so each team can be prepared.
Indeed, so why say it when it isn't true? At least Rowntree has tasted victory in and v NZ. Jenkins has neither experience. Not a dig at Jenks, just a why the fuck say that when it is demonstrably untrue?
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The shape of the coaching team is starting to point to an Anglo-Welsh majority in the squad make-up. Not surprising really. And probably the right mix given the Ireland implosion this tourney. At this point, I'd put Murray, Furlong, Stander, and possibly McGrath on the plane.
@Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:
The shape of the coaching team is starting to point to an Anglo-Welsh majority in the squad make-up. Not surprising really. And probably the right mix given the Ireland implosion this tourney. At this point, I'd put Murray, Furlong, Stander, and possibly McGrath on the plane.
Sexton will go. And should go too. O'Brien highly likely.
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@Bovidae said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Catogrande The list would be short if you are wanting coaches with experience of winning in NZ as either a player or a coach.
As Gatland says, you will need two separate coaching teams for the first part of the tour so each team can be prepared.
Indeed, so why say it when it isn't true? At least Rowntree has tasted victory in and v NZ. Jenkins has neither experience. Not a dig at Jenks, just a why the fuck say that when it is demonstrably untrue?
@Catogrande Sure Gatland could have worded that differently but I think it is a general statement for PR purposes than a statement of fact to be taken literally. "Understanding" and "knowing" (from past experience) are two different things in my eyes.
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@Crucial Remind me again what Neil Jenkins knows about winning in NZ?
@Catogrande said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Crucial Remind me again what Neil Jenkins knows about winning in NZ?
Clive Woodward knew a bit ... how did the last tour go?
Surely everybody is looking at this tour and wondering what if Eddie Jones was in charge?
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@Catogrande said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Crucial Remind me again what Neil Jenkins knows about winning in NZ?
Clive Woodward knew a bit ... how did the last tour go?
Surely everybody is looking at this tour and wondering what if Eddie Jones was in charge?
Now that Hansen has indicated we will play a match prior to the first Lions test, anyone heard a whisper as to who it might be?
Fiji, Tonga, Samoa or combined PI team?
Nz Maori?
Cyprus anyone
I think we need a hit out provided we don't get struck with injuries (I know that's hard to control but someone like Milner-skudder would sit it out). -
The 6N just finished was rather comforting I thought. None of the 6N sides really kicked on from Autumn, and once again with the odd exception, the quality of attacking play in the NH remains behind that of NZ at least.
I'm feeling a good bit more confident in any case.
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When you go through those games , 3 games against the Abs, a game against the maori , and the 5 games against the super rugby sides , all in 5 weeks , 9 tough games in 5 weeks ,
I dont think it would be possible to make it any tougher for them .
They are going to have to stay focused , we have a lot of point scoring ability in most of those lineups
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The 6N just finished was rather comforting I thought. None of the 6N sides really kicked on from Autumn, and once again with the odd exception, the quality of attacking play in the NH remains behind that of NZ at least.
I'm feeling a good bit more confident in any case.
@Billy-Tell I thought neither Wales nor France had any remote inkling of how to use the ball when they had it, likewise Ireland - for all their huge possession stats, they could only manage one try from a maul. Generally the attacking nowce was poor and very lateral from all four teams, the creative attacking instinct 2nd nature to SH teams non-existent.
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@Billy-Tell I thought neither Wales nor France had any remote inkling of how to use the ball when they had it, likewise Ireland - for all their huge possession stats, they could only manage one try from a maul. Generally the attacking nowce was poor and very lateral from all four teams, the creative attacking instinct 2nd nature to SH teams non-existent.
Where I think we will find the going difficult i.e. competitive is the smothering defence employed by NH teams.@Crash said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Billy-Tell I thought neither Wales nor France had any remote inkling of how to use the ball when they had it, likewise Ireland - for all their huge possession stats, they could only manage one try from a maul. Generally the attacking nowce was poor and very lateral from all four teams, the creative attacking instinct 2nd nature to SH teams non-existent.
Where I think we will find the going difficult i.e. competitive is the smothering defence employed by NH teams.Yip. Maul, box kicks and garyowens, and rush/smother defence. Don't see the lions creating a whole lot through their backs, Hogg excepted.
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Has anyone bought one of the new limited edition Super jerseys that will be worn in the Lions series? I haven't seen this posted yet but what a fuckup by Adidas. Obviously some marketing smart arse came up with a bright idea and then used the wrong info.
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You begin to wonder is there any point in the Lions travelling really.
Can't score, can't run, no attack - all they can do is defend. Why do they even bother playing the game?
Stuffed shopping bags in search of a trolley.
What a headline. 10/10.
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You begin to wonder is there any point in the Lions travelling really.
Can't score, can't run, no attack - all they can do is defend. Why do they even bother playing the game?
Stuffed shopping bags in search of a trolley.
What a headline. 10/10.
@Pot-Hale for the love of the game?
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@Pot-Hale for the love of the game?
@taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Pot-Hale for the love of the game?
Hmmmm.....
Nah.
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@taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Pot-Hale for the love of the game?
Hmmmm.....
Nah.
Anything else?@Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:
@taniwharugby said in B&I Lions 2017:
@Pot-Hale for the love of the game?
Hmmmm.....
Nah.
Anything else?Southern seas holiday?
