Your 4 midfielders for the Lions
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X-Factor is overrated.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
X-Factor is overrated.
Settle down Domehead.
Anyway, most players considered not to have x factor have massive x factor and guys who are considered to have x factor get their steadyness downplayed even when they're steady.
@SammyC I think the comments from Billy Tell might suggest Proctor is underrated.
@Nepia said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@ACT-Crusader said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
X-Factor is overrated.
Settle down Domehead.
Anyway, most players considered not to have x factor have massive x factor and guys who are considered to have x factor get their steadyness downplayed even when they're steady.
@SammyC I think the comments from Billy Tell might suggest Proctor is underrated.
I always read X factor as "this guy is shithouse, but I really like him"
IE if a guy is great defensively, has great hands, can kick, is good under the high ball, can flat pass both ways, has a good motor, has good pace, people say "Ben Smith guy is great defensively, has great hands, can kick, is good under the high ball, can flat pass both ways, has a good motor, has good pace!" when justifying picking him.
If a guy has the brain of a fricking headless chook, rushes up in D, drops half his passes & tosses every second offload to the opposition or the ground but once a Super game breaks 5 tackles before throwing it into touch so gets the crowd up on their feet they say "He's an X-Factor player!" to justify picking him.
Unless you are Justin Marshall & someone goes "do you like him Justin?" & you go "Whooom-PAH! X-Factor! Nisbo! BOOMPF!". Which means "I have watched him play & made a detailed study I lack the words to express, but yes"
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@MN5 said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
Umaga
McCallister
Smith
MaugerNo room for Bunce or Little?
@No-Quarter said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@MN5 said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
Umaga
McCallister
Smith
MaugerNo room for Bunce or Little?
Taylor and Pokere
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Ben Smith is a massive x-factor player, he makes exciting breaks regularly and some of his high ball takes are crazily skillful.
Not sure when x-factor became an insult.
@Kirwan said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
Ben Smith is a massive x-factor player, he makes exciting breaks regularly and some of his high ball takes are crazily skillful.
Not sure when x-factor became an insult.
When you're from Canterbury and nobody has any ...
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@Kirwan said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
Ben Smith is a massive x-factor player, he makes exciting breaks regularly and some of his high ball takes are crazily skillful.
Not sure when x-factor became an insult.
When you're from Canterbury and nobody has any ...
@booboo said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@Kirwan said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
Ben Smith is a massive x-factor player, he makes exciting breaks regularly and some of his high ball takes are crazily skillful.
Not sure when x-factor became an insult.
When you're from Canterbury and nobody has any ...
Are you fucking serious? Thorne, Blackadder, Ralph... shall I go on?
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@ACT-Crusader Ability to break the advantage line isn't.
@Tim said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@ACT-Crusader Ability to break the advantage line isn't.
Exactly. I wouldn't class those types of players as x-factor.
Not sure why Nepia has thrown the toys out of the pram....
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@booboo said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@Kirwan said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
Ben Smith is a massive x-factor player, he makes exciting breaks regularly and some of his high ball takes are crazily skillful.
Not sure when x-factor became an insult.
When you're from Canterbury and nobody has any ...
Are you fucking serious? Thorne, Blackadder, Ralph... shall I go on?
@Crazy-Horse said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@booboo said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@Kirwan said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
Ben Smith is a massive x-factor player, he makes exciting breaks regularly and some of his high ball takes are crazily skillful.
Not sure when x-factor became an insult.
When you're from Canterbury and nobody has any ...
Are you fucking serious? Thorne, Blackadder, Ralph... shall I go on?
This retort almost made me spit out my beer. So good.
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@Tim said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@ACT-Crusader Ability to break the advantage line isn't.
Exactly. I wouldn't class those types of players as x-factor.
Not sure why Nepia has thrown the toys out of the pram....
@ACT-Crusader said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@Tim said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@ACT-Crusader Ability to break the advantage line isn't.
Exactly. I wouldn't class those types of players as x-factor.
Not sure why Nepia has thrown the toys out of the pram....
Haha, I just feel that you and John Mitchell underrate x factor.
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My money would be on Crotty, ALB, SBW and Fekitoa being "the four" injury permitting. However it wouldn't surprise me to see Rieko Ioane in the squad also given Dagg, NMS and Naholo are all currently injured and may not get much rugby before the Lions arrive.
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And why not ALB, SBW, Crotty and Jordie B ? The AB need a reliable goalkicker and Jordie could be the answer.
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@Bones His goal kicking is also untested under test match pressure. He'll probably be good under those conditions, but you never know until you try ...
@Tim said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@Bones His goal kicking is also untested under test match pressure. He'll probably be good under those conditions, but you never know until you try ...
Not only that he's a shoe in for an all time AB 'tall XV'
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@Tim said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@Bones His goal kicking is also untested under test match pressure. He'll probably be good under those conditions, but you never know until you try ...
Not only that he's a shoe in for an all time AB 'tall XV'
@MN5 said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@Tim said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
@Bones His goal kicking is also untested under test match pressure. He'll probably be good under those conditions, but you never know until you try ...
Not only that he's a shoe in for an all time AB 'tall XV'
Do we have a picture of him doing a handstand next to Beauden yet? Can't really comment on his height until we do.
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My four midfielders would be
ALB
Crotty
Fekitoa
ProctorALB and Crotty an absolute lock to start, I'll be very disappointed if they don't. Fekitoa provides great impact off the bench smacking guys backwards, and Proctor very good injury cover as a like-for-like replacement for ALB or Crotty.
I'm disappointed Moala hasn't kicked on, though I don't think 12 is his best position. Starting to think 11 is his best position given his lack of distribution skills.
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My four midfielders would be
ALB
Crotty
Fekitoa
ProctorALB and Crotty an absolute lock to start, I'll be very disappointed if they don't. Fekitoa provides great impact off the bench smacking guys backwards, and Proctor very good injury cover as a like-for-like replacement for ALB or Crotty.
I'm disappointed Moala hasn't kicked on, though I don't think 12 is his best position. Starting to think 11 is his best position given his lack of distribution skills.
@No-Quarter said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
My four midfielders would be
ALB
Crotty
Fekitoa
ProctorALB and Crotty an absolute lock to start, I'll be very disappointed if they don't. Fekitoa provides great impact off the bench smacking guys backwards, and Proctor very good injury cover as a like-for-like replacement for ALB or Crotty.
I'm disappointed Moala hasn't kicked on, though I don't think 12 is his best position. Starting to think 11 is his best position given his lack of distribution skills.
No SBW? Have you taken leave of your senses?
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My money would be on Crotty, ALB, SBW and Fekitoa being "the four" injury permitting. However it wouldn't surprise me to see Rieko Ioane in the squad also given Dagg, NMS and Naholo are all currently injured and may not get much rugby before the Lions arrive.
@pukunui said in Your 4 midfielders for the Lions:
My money would be on Crotty, ALB, SBW and Fekitoa being "the four" injury permitting. However it wouldn't surprise me to see Rieko Ioane in the squad also given Dagg, NMS and Naholo are all currently injured and may not get much rugby before the Lions arrive.
Yep. It's hard to go past those four, with Ioane in the wings as a midfielder and, in the meantime, a decent chance to be selected on the wing.
The other guy that is coming is Jack Goodhue. If he kills Conrad Smith he can be his reincarnation.
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i think they will go for all out experience against the lions ,
And go with Crotty , ALB, Fekitoa and SBW,
With other promising midfielders such as proctor perhaps getting a look in later opportunities , such as the EOYT
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i think they will go for all out experience against the lions ,
And go with Crotty , ALB, Fekitoa and SBW,
With other promising midfielders such as proctor perhaps getting a look in later opportunities , such as the EOYT
@kiwiinmelb They may need injuries to open up places for them.
Midfield is hugely competitive - there's potentially a dozen midfield players who wouldn't look out of place in an AB backline - SBW, Moala, Ioane, Ngatai, ALB, Proctor, Laumape, Crotty, Goodhue, Tamanivalu, Fekitoa, Thompson, Buckman - and maybe a couple of others I'm forgetting.
Breaking in will be difficult.
