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@Virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Guess I'm a racist ?
I found that Damon Salesa had a very reasoned view on the reasons behind the segregation that the article doesn't even touch. If you haven't watched the video I would recommend you do.
I grew up in Onehunga in the 70s and it was a multi-cultural suburb, where young families could afford to buy or afford to rent. This meant my neighbours, school mates and team mates where from all spectrum of NZ and Auckland society. Interaction and familiarity between different cultures and socio-economic groups leads to understanding and long term friendships, regardless if your parents were meat workers, government employees, Doctors or Lawyers. Having this interaction at a young age makes the differences disappear and things become normal. You would only reject others if they were dick heads not because of their background or culture.
Is this the case today? I don't know as I haven't lived in NZ for almost 20 years. @Virgil , what are your experiences that would self label (sarcastically) as racist?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
This notion of cultural appropriation is bat shit crazy. It's insane that so-called educated people would even acknowledge it.
There was some arseclown a while back at the black something or other awards wanking on about cultural appropriation. That fact he was doing so while wearing a suit a speaking in English obviously went right over his demented head. Apparently white rappers are only permitted to rap if they have a "ghetto pass", whatever the fuck that is.
Can you imagine the furore if kids with Somali or Pakistani backgrounds in Norway weren't allowed to wear the Viking horns because they weren't the correct culture? Or Indians weren't allowed to play cricket because they were stealing an English game? Do you think that Bavarians give a shit about the worldwide appropriation of Oktoberfest?
As I said. Bat shit fucking insane.
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Unless you have German ancestry I insist you stop referring to yourself as Schnitzel, have you no shame?
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
This notion of cultural appropriation is bat shit crazy. It's insane that so-called educated people would even acknowledge it.
There was some arseclown a while back at the black something or other awards wanking on about cultural appropriation. That fact he was doing so while wearing a suit a speaking in English obviously went right over his demented head. Apparently white rappers are only permitted to rap if they have a "ghetto pass", whatever the fuck that is.
Can you imagine the furore if kids with Somali or Pakistani backgrounds in Norway weren't allowed to wear the Viking horns because they weren't the correct culture? Or Indians weren't allowed to play cricket because they were stealing an English game? Do you think that Bavarians give a shit about the worldwide appropriation of Oktoberfest?
As I said. Bat shit fucking insane.
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Unless you have German ancestry I insist you stop referring to yourself as Schnitzel, have you no shame?
My dad's a Kraut so I'm culturally sound. You cannot believe how triggered I get when I see a Bavarian beer café or schnitzel in a supermarket. It's racist I tell you. A cultural holocaust!
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@dK said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Guess I'm a racist ?
I found that Damon Salesa had a very reasoned view on the reasons behind the segregation that the article doesn't even touch. If you haven't watched the video I would recommend you do.
I grew up in Onehunga in the 70s and it was a multi-cultural suburb, where young families could afford to buy or afford to rent. This meant my neighbours, school mates and team mates where from all spectrum of NZ and Auckland society. Interaction and familiarity between different cultures and socio-economic groups leads to understanding and long term friendships, regardless if your parents were meat workers, government employees, Doctors or Lawyers. Having this interaction at a young age makes the differences disappear and things become normal. You would only reject others if they were dick heads not because of their background or culture.
Is this the case today? I don't know as I haven't lived in NZ for almost 20 years. @Virgil , what are your experiences that would self label (sarcastically) as racist?
As said above theres always going to be certain neighbourhoods with an over representation of a particular race.
Hasn't it always been that way?
Think South Auckland who do you picture living there? Think Remuera who do you picture living there?
Not too mention parts of East Auckland have a large Asian contingent as well.
How it all works i guess it depends how deep you want to look into the whys and hows.
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@dK said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Virgil The points you raise are discussed in the video. Those without financial power have less choices to interact with other socio-economic groups or cultural groups. I was just interested why you think you are racist
Sorry @dK was a throw away sarcastic remark, due to the fact I almost never visit some of the areas mentioned in that article
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In the name of progress, Harvard University will segregate graduation ceremonies based on race.
I wonder how black you have to be. Would a black great grandfather mean you have to join the black ceremony or could you sneak into the other one?
I'm pretty sure the remaining handful of white supremacists will be totally on board with this idea. Well done Harvard.
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@No-Quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
In the name of progress, Harvard University will segregate graduation ceremonies based on race.
I wonder how black you have to be. Would a black great grandfather mean you have to join the black ceremony or could you sneak into the other one?
I'm pretty sure the remaining handful of white supremacists will be totally on board with this idea. Well done Harvard.
(Checks date to see if it's April the 1st, it's not )
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@No-Quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
In the name of progress, Harvard University will segregate graduation ceremonies based on race.
I wonder how black you have to be. Would a black great grandfather mean you have to join the black ceremony or could you sneak into the other one?
I'm pretty sure the remaining handful of white supremacists will be totally on board with this idea. Well done Harvard.
Within my lifetime the world looked on with scorn as the US establishment tried to enforce and justify segregation at schools and universities. I never thought I'd live to see the day when the legatees of Martin Luther King would demand it comes back.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Ed Sheeren , guilty of cultural appropriation. Oh the shame.
How can a pasty ginger of Irish descent be accused of "cultural appropriation" from the Irish?
If SJWs have taught us anything it's that a "cultural appropriation" may only be made by a person afflicted with white privilege from a non-white person. Are the Irish making a cultural appropriation of cultural appropriation itself? Fuck knows. This concept moves so quickly.
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@JC said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@No-Quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
In the name of progress, Harvard University will segregate graduation ceremonies based on race.
I wonder how black you have to be. Would a black great grandfather mean you have to join the black ceremony or could you sneak into the other one?
I'm pretty sure the remaining handful of white supremacists will be totally on board with this idea. Well done Harvard.
Within my lifetime the world looked on with scorn as the US establishment tried to enforce and justify segregation at schools and universities. I never thought I'd live to see the day when the legatees of Martin Luther King would demand it comes back.
MLK was the first thing that came into my mind when I read this. I still vividly remember first learning about him in primary school. Made a massive impression on me, particularly the line in his speech that people should be "judged not by the colour of their skin, but their content of their character". Now it's all about race, race and more race. It's becoming positively tribal.
Seriously, wtf is going on?
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Ed Sheeren , guilty of cultural appropriation. Oh the shame.
He is guilty of some of the most god awful music known to man. He's friends with Polly Gillespie and he's a ranga with shit tatts. His new song has an Irish fiddle. Fuck off you sappy fluffybunny.
Justin Beiber is less shit then he is.
I despise him utterly.
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This is glorious. Did you know the term 'adulting' that you see in those cute facebook meme's and in edgy articles is actually sexist? Well read away and learn the ways of the world my friends:
The word 'adulting' is gross. It's also sexist, says Lenny letter editor
Young women are just afraid to be public about their actual achievements because if their public persona is self-assured, they are also perceived to be less likable.
What is actually glorious is the reaction to it on facebook. I don't want to sound too optimistic but it kinda looks like people are starting to wake up to this nonsense.
This comment sums up my hope
"My spirit is infinitely bouyed by the unanimous repudiation throughout the comments section of this utter tripe. Ironically, an utterly divisive piece seems to have brought people from differing ideologies together in opposition to its stupidity. A rare win on the internet"That and one of my leftist friend whom I engage with politically from time to time trying to wear her down with logic also commented about how crap it was. I'm taking that as a very small victory.
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@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Ed Sheeren , guilty of cultural appropriation. Oh the shame.
He is guilty of some of the most god awful music known to man. He's friends with Polly Gillespie and he's a ranga with shit tatts. His new song has an Irish fiddle. Fuck off you sappy fluffybunny.
Justin Beiber is less shit then he is.
I despise him utterly.
I'm quoting this poetry. Excellent (although the Beiber thing might be pushing it, Sheeran at least strikes me as the kind of guy you could have a beer with).
I said could
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@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Ed Sheeren , guilty of cultural appropriation. Oh the shame.
He is guilty of some of the most god awful music known to man. He's friends with Polly Gillespie and he's a ranga with shit tatts. His new song has an Irish fiddle. Fuck off you sappy fluffybunny.
Justin Beiber is less shit then he is.
I despise him utterly.
I'm quoting this poetry. Excellent (although the Beiber thing might be pushing it, Sheeran at least strikes me as the kind of guy you could have a beer with).
I said could
When I'm choosing the soundtrack for when I end up in hell it'd be Beiber over Sheeran.
Ridiculous but true.
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The 'cultural advisors' are nothing but money grubbing scum. All about meeting after meeting with exorbitant hourly rates plus fully catered meals, travel costs etc etc.
They don't do jack shit, and very often do NOT represent the thoughts of local iwi/hapu, nor do they have the authority to make decisions.
It's a fucking disgusting gravy train.
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@mariner4life Sheeran strikes me as a more talented 'musician' than Beeber too.
Agree on the beer front, although I would have a beer with most cnuts on here, so I'm not fussy
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@taniwharugby i really like beer
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