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  • TimT Tim

    @KiwiMurph Yep, scored all their points, I think. Hopefully he's already had surgery and has recovered. Sounds unlikely though.

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    @Tim said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

    @KiwiMurph Yep, scored all their points, I think. Hopefully he's already had surgery and has recovered. Sounds unlikely though.

    Going by an article from last year, it looks like Harry Plummer has already had the surgery and is back playing - which hopefully puts him in contention for this year's Auckland squad (even if its just to get a taste).

    ***Harry Plummer has dealt with more than his fair share of adversity in his short rugby career, so a slightly delayed April start to the 2017 season is a minor inconvenience for this talented No 10.

    His exams were done, but his arm was in a brace as he rehabs from a shoulder operation last month, done a few days after the trans- Ta$man schools international.***

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11753558

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      You guys must love seeing Simon Hickey in that photo. Good times.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        You guys must love seeing Simon Hickey in that photo. Good times.

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        @Bovidae size wise you'd think he was the schoolboy of the two. In fact game-wise too.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          You guys must love seeing Simon Hickey in that photo. Good times.

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          @Bovidae He just won't go away.

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            Have heard through the grapevine that Rene Ranger has signed with Northland for 2017 after his 2 year stint with NH...

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              Money well spent by Harbour...

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                Not about Mitre 10 Cup, but this seems the best thread to post this:

                A Taranaki invitational rugby squad will meet Asian minnows South Korea at Yarrow Stadium next Wednesday.
                
                The match is part of four match tour South Korea are making of New Zealand that also includes games against Counties Manukau and North Harbour.
                
                Taranaki invitational squad to meet South Korea: Jared Proffit, Caleb Mawson, Asaeli Sorovaki, Donald Maka, Ryan Cocker, Alex Mitchell, Zane Neill, Devron Phillips, Sione Lea, Mikaere Bell, Jon Smyth, Dylan Juffermans, Jack White, Daniel Parete, Cole Blyde, Micaiah Torrance-Read, Jack Jordan, Matthew Kissick, Mitchell Crosswell, Adrian Wyrill, Pita Sowakula, Logan Crowley, Matt McKenzie, Meli Naholo, Isaia Tuifua, Ben Leng, Liam Blyde, Logan Rei, Cody Whittaker, Brayton Northcott-Hill, Shaan Waite, Daniel Waite, Jackson Ormond, John Lomu, Frank Tawake, Jordan Masters, Jayson Potroz.
                

                http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/92425514/Taranaki-to-play-South-Korea

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                  Canterbury squad named for Ranfurly Shield defences

                  Canterbury v Wanganui - Wednesday, 21 June at 7.35pm (AMI Stadium, Christchurch)
                  Canterbury v Mid Canterbury - Friday, 4 August at 2:30pm (Ashburton Domain)

                  Squad:
                  Alifeleti Kaitu’u - New Brighton
                  Amanaki Nicole - Sydenham
                  Anty Burnett - Lincoln University
                  Billy Harmon - New Brighton
                  Brad Hemopo - University
                  Brett Cameron - Lincoln University
                  Caleb Makene - Lincoln University
                  Chris Gawler - Lincoln University
                  Dylan Nel - Sumner
                  Finn Hart-Strawbridge - Lincoln University
                  Hamish Dalzell - Lincoln University
                  Kaveinga Finau - Christchurch
                  Jack Powell - Lincoln University
                  Jack Straker - Sydenham
                  Jack Stratton - Lincoln University
                  JJ Manning - Marist Albion
                  Joel Hintz - Lincoln University
                  Jonno Osbourne - Lincoln University
                  Marcel Cummings-Toone - New Brighton
                  Mark Maitland - Waihora
                  Marshall Suckling - Sumner
                  Ngane Punivai - Lincoln University
                  Nigel Gibb - University
                  Poasa Waqanibau - Sumner
                  Ray Nu’u - Sydenham
                  Sam Godwin - University
                  Samu Tawake - Sumner
                  Sean Paranihi - Linwood
                  Sireli Kacilala - Belfast
                  Steve Alfeld - Christchurch
                  Tom Crozier - Sumner

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                    Tim Nanai-Williams and Baden Kerr are returning this season for the Counties Manukau Steelers

                    http://www.steelers.co.nz/news/article/1660/

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                      Googled how Kerr went in the UK. So, he was a mixture of shite, injured and unavailable.

                      He's been with Hertford for the last year. Here's what the DOR said when he signed with them:

                      "He came over from Auckland hoping to play for Saracens in 2014/15 and was going to be second behind [Owen] Farrell thinking [Charlie] Hodgson might take it easy, but obviously he didn't"
                      
                      "He got loaned out to Bedford, suffered concussion and lost his love for the professional side of the game.
                      
                      "Michael Owen [head of rugby at Haileybury] introduced him to me. He wanted to get into teaching and he's going to do that at Mill Hill short term and be looking to Haileybury or Heath Mount, schools in the local area, long term.
                      
                      "Because of his teaching commitments he will be joining us late in October
                      

                      But then he didn't play for them until January because of 'teaching commitments' and that was one game from the bench.

                      CM have basically signed a player who is coming out of semi retirement

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        Googled how Kerr went in the UK. So, he was a mixture of shite, injured and unavailable.

                        He's been with Hertford for the last year. Here's what the DOR said when he signed with them:

                        "He came over from Auckland hoping to play for Saracens in 2014/15 and was going to be second behind [Owen] Farrell thinking [Charlie] Hodgson might take it easy, but obviously he didn't"
                        
                        "He got loaned out to Bedford, suffered concussion and lost his love for the professional side of the game.
                        
                        "Michael Owen [head of rugby at Haileybury] introduced him to me. He wanted to get into teaching and he's going to do that at Mill Hill short term and be looking to Haileybury or Heath Mount, schools in the local area, long term.
                        
                        "Because of his teaching commitments he will be joining us late in October
                        

                        But then he didn't play for them until January because of 'teaching commitments' and that was one game from the bench.

                        CM have basically signed a player who is coming out of semi retirement

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                        @Duluth crikey, I played against Hertford and Bedofrd when I was living there,, just checked and Hertford has actually dropped a divison or 2 since then too!

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                          It's like CM have said to Baden Kerr "bugger off overseas and try to get worse than Piers Francis, or we won't sign ya"

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                            Dwayne Sweeney commits to Waikato (for 2 seasons)

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                              So Kieran Read has re-signed with the NZR through 2019, but interestingly, has signed with Counties for Mitre 10 Cup.

                              http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/92912203/all-blacks-captain-kieran-read-resigns-with-nz-rugby-through-to-2019

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                                Why do provincial teams sign these guys? Do they cost them anything? They'll never play a minute for them.

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                                  I'm also unsure if the Reads are going to live in the Counties region. Surely with the amount of time spent with the Crusaders they'll remain living Christchurch.

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                                    I guess its a promotional thing, I guess he'll be available to do sponsor stuff for Counties sponsors, despite probably not pulling on a counties jersey.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Why do provincial teams sign these guys? Do they cost them anything? They'll never play a minute for them.

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                                      @Tim said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                      Why do provincial teams sign these guys? Do they cost them anything? They'll never play a minute for them.

                                      Because current NZR regulations for a player to appear in NPC or Ranfurly Shield contain:

                                      2.3 A Player must become a party to a Provincial Union Contract or a Provincial Union Development Contract, in order to participate in the Premier Competition.

                                      This allows the player to be determined in one of four categories:
                                      Local
                                      Loan
                                      Returning NZ player from Overseas
                                      Overseas player

                                      You are right, it is probable that Kieran Read will never play for CM .. but you never know. If he ever does, then he will be classed as a Local player for Counties Manukau.

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                                      • Number 10N Number 10

                                        @Tim said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:

                                        Why do provincial teams sign these guys? Do they cost them anything? They'll never play a minute for them.

                                        Because current NZR regulations for a player to appear in NPC or Ranfurly Shield contain:

                                        2.3 A Player must become a party to a Provincial Union Contract or a Provincial Union Development Contract, in order to participate in the Premier Competition.

                                        This allows the player to be determined in one of four categories:
                                        Local
                                        Loan
                                        Returning NZ player from Overseas
                                        Overseas player

                                        You are right, it is probable that Kieran Read will never play for CM .. but you never know. If he ever does, then he will be classed as a Local player for Counties Manukau.

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                                        @Number-10 I think they also get funding based on the numbers that are ABs and Super rugby don't they...so while it isn't gonna pay his Mitre 10 salary, I expect the sponsors will love having access to him (albeit limited with AB duties)

                                        Similar discussion when SBW signed IIRC

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                                          You're right about the promotional thing.

                                          Provincial contracts do contain a clause where the player can be used for "promotion purposes" by the province, and it is a certain number of hours.

                                          The full cost of an All Black's provincial contract is reimbursed by NZR if the All Black does not appear for the province. if the All Black does appear for the province then NZR reimburses on a pro-rata basis, I think.

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