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B&I Lions 2017

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  • jeggaJ jegga

    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale All I took from that was he doesn't believe in auras .

    He doesn't believe in auras people.

    I took the fact that he's got a kid, a dog and a house and a fiancée and that he wants to stay there for the rest of his life. And also that he likes to move around a bit and try new things. And it will be pretty tough to leave.

    That's all pretty interesting but peripheral to his non belief in auras though.

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    @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale All I took from that was he doesn't believe in auras .

    He doesn't believe in auras people.

    I took the fact that he's got a kid, a dog and a house and a fiancée and that he wants to stay there for the rest of his life. And also that he likes to move around a bit and try new things. And it will be pretty tough to leave.

    That's all pretty interesting but peripheral to his non belief in auras though.

    An yes. People born with aura don't believe in aura. It's a rugby ecumenical matter.

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      @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

      @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

      @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

      @Pot-Hale All I took from that was he doesn't believe in auras .

      He doesn't believe in auras people.

      I took the fact that he's got a kid, a dog and a house and a fiancée and that he wants to stay there for the rest of his life. And also that he likes to move around a bit and try new things. And it will be pretty tough to leave.

      That's all pretty interesting but peripheral to his non belief in auras though.

      An yes. People born with aura don't believe in aura. It's a rugby ecumenical matter.

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      @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

      @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

      @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

      @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

      @Pot-Hale All I took from that was he doesn't believe in auras .

      He doesn't believe in auras people.

      I took the fact that he's got a kid, a dog and a house and a fiancée and that he wants to stay there for the rest of his life. And also that he likes to move around a bit and try new things. And it will be pretty tough to leave.

      That's all pretty interesting but peripheral to his non belief in auras though.

      An yes. People born with aura don't believe in aura. It's a rugby ecumenical matter.

      Interesting, interesting ,so he's some sort of aura fifth columnist?

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      • jeggaJ jegga

        @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @Pot-Hale All I took from that was he doesn't believe in auras .

        He doesn't believe in auras people.

        I took the fact that he's got a kid, a dog and a house and a fiancée and that he wants to stay there for the rest of his life. And also that he likes to move around a bit and try new things. And it will be pretty tough to leave.

        That's all pretty interesting but peripheral to his non belief in auras though.

        An yes. People born with aura don't believe in aura. It's a rugby ecumenical matter.

        Interesting, interesting ,so he's some sort of aura fifth columnist?

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        @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

        @Pot-Hale All I took from that was he doesn't believe in auras .

        He doesn't believe in auras people.

        I took the fact that he's got a kid, a dog and a house and a fiancée and that he wants to stay there for the rest of his life. And also that he likes to move around a bit and try new things. And it will be pretty tough to leave.

        That's all pretty interesting but peripheral to his non belief in auras though.

        An yes. People born with aura don't believe in aura. It's a rugby ecumenical matter.

        Interesting, interesting ,so he's some sort of aura fifth columnist?

        Sounds like it. I always thought he looked a bit shifty-eyed myself. And he plays for Ulster, what more can I say? He should be out west.

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          Billy Vunipola out with a shoulder injury. Haskell in.

          Pretty much the worst player it was possibleto lose pre tour for the Lions.

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            Billy Vunipola out with a shoulder injury. Haskell in.

            Pretty much the worst player it was possibleto lose pre tour for the Lions.

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            @Margin_Walker said in B&I Lions 2017:

            Billy Vunipola out with a shoulder injury. Haskell in.

            Pretty much the worst player it was possibleto lose pre tour for the Lions.

            That's a real shame. I was really looking forward to see how he fared in NZ.

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              Shame. Simplifies the "who to start at 8" debate, though.

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                Always thought Billy Vunipola was a fat, overweight barsteward, somewhat overrated. Good to have the Hass on tour now.

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                  Why Haskell as a replacement? He doesn't play any of the backrow positions well enough.

                  Barring injury it's pretty obvious that the Lions will have Stander, Warburton and Faletau as their backrow.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    Why Haskell as a replacement? He doesn't play any of the backrow positions well enough.

                    Barring injury it's pretty obvious that the Lions will have Stander, Warburton and Faletau as their backrow.

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                    @antipodean said in B&I Lions 2017:

                    Why Haskell as a replacement? He doesn't play any of the backrow positions well enough.

                    Barring injury it's pretty obvious that the Lions will have Stander, Warburton and Faletau as their backrow.

                    He did well enough at openside last year. Grandslam winner, man of the series against Australia, outplayed Pooper and all of his direct Lions competition.

                    Billy is an enormous loss. I can only imagine that anyone who doesn't rate him hasn't watched him properly for the last couple of years.

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                      Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                      At the moment if fit

                      Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                      Reality

                      Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

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                        @antipodean said in B&I Lions 2017:

                        Why Haskell as a replacement? He doesn't play any of the backrow positions well enough.

                        Barring injury it's pretty obvious that the Lions will have Stander, Warburton and Faletau as their backrow.

                        He did well enough at openside last year. Grandslam winner, man of the series against Australia, outplayed Pooper and all of his direct Lions competition.

                        Billy is an enormous loss. I can only imagine that anyone who doesn't rate him hasn't watched him properly for the last couple of years.

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                        @SimonAdd_2 said in B&I Lions 2017:

                        @antipodean said in B&I Lions 2017:

                        Why Haskell as a replacement? He doesn't play any of the backrow positions well enough.

                        Barring injury it's pretty obvious that the Lions will have Stander, Warburton and Faletau as their backrow.

                        He did well enough at openside last year. Grandslam winner, man of the series against Australia, outplayed Pooper and all of his direct Lions competition.

                        The England pack outplayed Australia. Haskell is, at best, an all-rounder to bring on at the end - not an individual who replaces the injured number 8.

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                          At the moment if fit

                          Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                          Reality

                          Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

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                          #725

                          @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                          Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                          At the moment if fit

                          Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                          Reality

                          Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                          Not sure why you're marking down Murray for his performance against Ospreys. I'd still have him before Webb.

                          Sexton? I wouldn't even put him on the June tour to Japan/US for his inexcrable performance in the semi. Woeful doesn't come close.

                          And Farrell at 10 against Exeter didn't fill me with reassurance about him there at test level either.

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                            At the moment if fit

                            Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                            Reality

                            Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

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                            Crucial
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                            @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                            Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                            At the moment if fit

                            Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                            Reality

                            Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                            I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?

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                              @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                              Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                              At the moment if fit

                              Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                              Reality

                              Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                              I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?

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                              booboo
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                              @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

                              @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                              Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                              At the moment if fit

                              Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                              Reality

                              Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                              I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?

                              Is it a bit like "edges" in loigue?

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                                At the moment if fit

                                Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                                Reality

                                Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                                I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?

                                Is it a bit like "edges" in loigue?

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                                Crucial
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                                @booboo said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                                At the moment if fit

                                Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                                Reality

                                Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                                I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?

                                Is it a bit like "edges" in loigue?

                                What does that mean? I dont watch boofball.

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                                • CrucialC Crucial

                                  @booboo said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                                  At the moment if fit

                                  Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                                  Reality

                                  Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                                  I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?

                                  Is it a bit like "edges" in loigue?

                                  What does that mean? I dont watch boofball.

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                                  @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  @booboo said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                  Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                                  At the moment if fit

                                  Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                                  Reality

                                  Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                                  I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?

                                  Is it a bit like "edges" in loigue?

                                  What does that mean? I dont watch boofball.

                                  Don't watch a shit load myself, but they seem to station a mini team on each side of the field for attack.

                                  Usually a centre, a second rower and wing. Maybe a prop.

                                  Instead of calling the sides of the field the sides of the field they call them edges.

                                  I think the distribution of those players is down to said players ability to run, step, pass etc as the play flows a certain way.

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                                    At the moment if fit

                                    Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                                    Reality

                                    Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                                    Not sure why you're marking down Murray for his performance against Ospreys. I'd still have him before Webb.

                                    Sexton? I wouldn't even put him on the June tour to Japan/US for his inexcrable performance in the semi. Woeful doesn't come close.

                                    And Farrell at 10 against Exeter didn't fill me with reassurance about him there at test level either.

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                                    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                    Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                                    At the moment if fit

                                    Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                                    Reality

                                    Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                                    Not sure why you're marking down Murray for his performance against Ospreys. I'd still have him before Webb.

                                    Sexton? I wouldn't even put him on the June tour to Japan/US for his inexcrable performance in the semi. Woeful doesn't come close.

                                    And Farrell at 10 against Exeter didn't fill me with reassurance about him there at test level either.

                                    Not marking Murray down. He'll be first choice but I don't think he'll last fitnesswise.

                                    Farrell has to go to 10 because Gatland selected Biggar and not Ford 😞

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                                    • boobooB booboo

                                      @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      @booboo said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      @MiketheSnow said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                      Some interesting NH performances over the weekend.

                                      At the moment if fit

                                      Murray, Sexton, Nowell, Farrell, Joseph, North, L Williams

                                      Reality

                                      Webb, Farrell, Nowell, Joseph, J Davies (playing left and right, not inside and outside), North, L Williams

                                      I never get left and right centres. Is it because they can only pass one way?

                                      Is it a bit like "edges" in loigue?

                                      What does that mean? I dont watch boofball.

                                      Don't watch a shit load myself, but they seem to station a mini team on each side of the field for attack.

                                      Usually a centre, a second rower and wing. Maybe a prop.

                                      Instead of calling the sides of the field the sides of the field they call them edges.

                                      I think the distribution of those players is down to said players ability to run, step, pass etc as the play flows a certain way.

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                                      @booboo

                                      I'm not sure that'd work in rugby would it? The defensive paterns are so much more set because of the far higher amount of set piece & semi set piece ball that the centres swapping around on sides would be a nightmare. 12 & 13 are hugely different defensive positions in union. Does anyone play left & right? It seems like the sort of thing the Aussies might have tried at some stage...

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                                        @booboo

                                        I'm not sure that'd work in rugby would it? The defensive paterns are so much more set because of the far higher amount of set piece & semi set piece ball that the centres swapping around on sides would be a nightmare. 12 & 13 are hugely different defensive positions in union. Does anyone play left & right? It seems like the sort of thing the Aussies might have tried at some stage...

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                                        @gollum said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                        @booboo

                                        I'm not sure that'd work in rugby would it? The defensive paterns are so much more set because of the far higher amount of set piece & semi set piece ball that the centres swapping around on sides would be a nightmare. 12 & 13 are hugely different defensive positions in union. Does anyone play left & right? It seems like the sort of thing the Aussies might have tried at some stage...

                                        I recall the convicts using left and right centres some time ago. It was the mention of it above that I queried as I don't think anyone uses it in the modern game. Would be hard work on defence to have to keep changing and on attack you lose having a centre-threequarter to distribute to the outsides.

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                                          @gollum said in B&I Lions 2017:

                                          @booboo

                                          I'm not sure that'd work in rugby would it? The defensive paterns are so much more set because of the far higher amount of set piece & semi set piece ball that the centres swapping around on sides would be a nightmare. 12 & 13 are hugely different defensive positions in union. Does anyone play left & right? It seems like the sort of thing the Aussies might have tried at some stage...

                                          I recall the convicts using left and right centres some time ago. It was the mention of it above that I queried as I don't think anyone uses it in the modern game. Would be hard work on defence to have to keep changing and on attack you lose having a centre-threequarter to distribute to the outsides.

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                                          @Crucial

                                          Yeah, I feel like Dan Herbert used to play left & right, but it seems a terrible idea

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