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    Another big difference is that Oracle get to race with the challengers from the get go which means they will know exactly how they measure up.

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    • JayCeeJ JayCee

      Yep me too - true band waggoner - love watching it - especially with the foiling, but most of the time I don't know what is going on.

      Was in San Fran during the louis vuitton and got to see Team NZ in action - amazing to see the boats up close.

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      @JayCee said in Americas Cup:

      Yep me too - true band waggoner - love watching it - especially with the foiling, but most of the time I don't know what is going on.

      I'm loving how technology has revitalised the sport; turning it into a sort of renewable F1 on water.

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      • JKJ JK

        Another big difference is that Oracle get to race with the challengers from the get go which means they will know exactly how they measure up.

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        @JK and from what I gathered form Pete Montgomery on the radio this morning, they could influence which side of the draw for the semis teams go...so could ensure that ETNZ end up on the tougher semi while they have 2 weeks to fine tune.

        Some farked up rules in this sport!

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/92916995/americas-cup--10-burning-questions-for-bermuda-racing

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          Yeah the whole - 'my cup, my rules' stuff sucks ass. Oracle have set things up so they have a big advantage by tangling with the challengers. Probably a lesson learnt from last time where only a few poor decisions from Team NZ let them catch up tech-wise.

          These things are rocket ships on water - but as PJ noted if they are foiling and clip a bit of water it could get interesting really fast!!

          I do love the technology even though I know sweet F all about how it actually works. Do like the fact Team NZ is still being inventive around how we power the boat. Wonder if they asked Hamish Bond if he was free?

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            Is PJ actually over there? He's actually our neighbour so I should know but I've been overseas for the last two weeks myself so havent even had a chance to see him.

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              I'm still filthy about how we lost last time......that bloody race that "timed out" which would've sealed it, then lost (was it?) 8 on the trot to cough up a 9-1 lead. Argh!

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              • JKJ JK

                Is PJ actually over there? He's actually our neighbour so I should know but I've been overseas for the last two weeks myself so havent even had a chance to see him.

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                @JK said in Americas Cup:

                Is PJ actually over there? He's actually our neighbour so I should know but I've been overseas for the last two weeks myself so havent even had a chance to see him.

                Ok so wife saw him mincing about on the street yesterday so assuming he's not going over there

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                • JKJ JK

                  Another big difference is that Oracle get to race with the challengers from the get go which means they will know exactly how they measure up.

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                  @JK said in Americas Cup:

                  Another big difference is that Oracle get to race with the challengers from the get go which means they will know exactly how they measure up.

                  Apart from Team Japan, who are Oracle lite, the other 4 teams should just cruise around the course when racing Oracle so nothing is gained. It won't happen but would be a big "fuck you" to Coutts and Ellison.

                  Personally, I don't think the America's Cup has as much public interest anymore. I remember we setup TVs at work to watch the races from San Diego and Auckland. Now, I'll just watch the evening news, or wait until we're up 8-1 in the final. 😆

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                    No racing today or tomorrow as postponement due to winds being too strong.

                    Racing to start Sunday morning NZ time

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                      Anyone looking for a slightly different angle on the reporting as far as NZ goes would do well to read Newsroom https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@sailing

                      They seem to avoid the hype and hyperbole and have articles written by people more interested in the sailing than the sideshow.

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                        Bumping this.
                        Good day for NZ, speed is impressive. However, basic matchracing tactical error of not covering Aussie spitface let Oracle recover from 20 seconds down to get the inside lane at the last or second to last mark. He's a cunning bastard

                        Ben Ainslie let his ego get the better of him, red mist, twice. First, a split second decision not to give way to Barker meant he almost killed half the Japan crew. Next, he kept on sailing, and worsening the damage to his hull. Futile, destructive. World's best sailor? Not so far. That would be spitface.


                        F*ck, indeed! There wss potential for broken backs, for someone being sliced open like a can of tomato and spaghetti. All live on camera.

                        These boats need sensors, and when another boat is within 2m of them, it should be classed as collision for penalty. That would encourage slightly more circumspect sailing.

                        Go, NZ!

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                          Looks like we put up a good showing. We don't need to beat them now, let Jimmy crow, hopefully he'll eat some later

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                            The news reporting on TV made out Spittal was being disrespectful to Team NZ - then they played what he said and I found it quite normal I was not offended or surprised by his coments. He won he was happy so what. Pointed out we made an error and he capitalised.......that's sport

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                              The news reporting on TV made out Spittal was being disrespectful to Team NZ - then they played what he said and I found it quite normal I was not offended or surprised by his coments. He won he was happy so what. Pointed out we made an error and he capitalised.......that's sport

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                              @kidcalder but, but it is Jimmy Spithall, the villain!

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                                lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

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                                  lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

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                                  @kidcalder said in Americas Cup:

                                  lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

                                  Do we?

                                  How is this version of ETNZ funded?

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                                    @kidcalder said in Americas Cup:

                                    lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

                                    Do we?

                                    How is this version of ETNZ funded?

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                                    @Crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                    @kidcalder said in Americas Cup:

                                    lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

                                    Do we?

                                    How is this version of ETNZ funded?

                                    They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @Crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                      @kidcalder said in Americas Cup:

                                      lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

                                      Do we?

                                      How is this version of ETNZ funded?

                                      They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland

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                                      @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                      @Crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                      @kidcalder said in Americas Cup:

                                      lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

                                      Do we?

                                      How is this version of ETNZ funded?

                                      They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland

                                      Yeah, that's what I thought too.

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                        @kidcalder said in Americas Cup:

                                        lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

                                        Do we?

                                        How is this version of ETNZ funded?

                                        They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland

                                        Yeah, that's what I thought too.

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                                        @Crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                        @canefan said in Americas Cup:

                                        @Crucial said in Americas Cup:

                                        @kidcalder said in Americas Cup:

                                        lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them

                                        Do we?

                                        How is this version of ETNZ funded?

                                        They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland

                                        Yeah, that's what I thought too.

                                        I think I read how Dalton or Ashby were saying the lack of government funding frees them from any need to be diplomatic during the regatta. They'll call a spade a spade

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                                          kidcalder
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                                          My bad re funding then.. thought govt still did

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