Americas Cup
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Yeah the whole - 'my cup, my rules' stuff sucks ass. Oracle have set things up so they have a big advantage by tangling with the challengers. Probably a lesson learnt from last time where only a few poor decisions from Team NZ let them catch up tech-wise.
These things are rocket ships on water - but as PJ noted if they are foiling and clip a bit of water it could get interesting really fast!!
I do love the technology even though I know sweet F all about how it actually works. Do like the fact Team NZ is still being inventive around how we power the boat. Wonder if they asked Hamish Bond if he was free?
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Is PJ actually over there? He's actually our neighbour so I should know but I've been overseas for the last two weeks myself so havent even had a chance to see him.
@JK said in Americas Cup:
Is PJ actually over there? He's actually our neighbour so I should know but I've been overseas for the last two weeks myself so havent even had a chance to see him.
Ok so wife saw him mincing about on the street yesterday so assuming he's not going over there
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Another big difference is that Oracle get to race with the challengers from the get go which means they will know exactly how they measure up.
@JK said in Americas Cup:
Another big difference is that Oracle get to race with the challengers from the get go which means they will know exactly how they measure up.
Apart from Team Japan, who are Oracle lite, the other 4 teams should just cruise around the course when racing Oracle so nothing is gained. It won't happen but would be a big "fuck you" to Coutts and Ellison.
Personally, I don't think the America's Cup has as much public interest anymore. I remember we setup TVs at work to watch the races from San Diego and Auckland. Now, I'll just watch the evening news, or wait until we're up 8-1 in the final.
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Anyone looking for a slightly different angle on the reporting as far as NZ goes would do well to read Newsroom https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@sailing
They seem to avoid the hype and hyperbole and have articles written by people more interested in the sailing than the sideshow.
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Bumping this.
Good day for NZ, speed is impressive. However, basic matchracing tactical error of not covering Aussie spitface let Oracle recover from 20 seconds down to get the inside lane at the last or second to last mark. He's a cunning bastardBen Ainslie let his ego get the better of him, red mist, twice. First, a split second decision not to give way to Barker meant he almost killed half the Japan crew. Next, he kept on sailing, and worsening the damage to his hull. Futile, destructive. World's best sailor? Not so far. That would be spitface.
F*ck, indeed! There wss potential for broken backs, for someone being sliced open like a can of tomato and spaghetti. All live on camera.These boats need sensors, and when another boat is within 2m of them, it should be classed as collision for penalty. That would encourage slightly more circumspect sailing.
Go, NZ!
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The news reporting on TV made out Spittal was being disrespectful to Team NZ - then they played what he said and I found it quite normal I was not offended or surprised by his coments. He won he was happy so what. Pointed out we made an error and he capitalised.......that's sport
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The news reporting on TV made out Spittal was being disrespectful to Team NZ - then they played what he said and I found it quite normal I was not offended or surprised by his coments. He won he was happy so what. Pointed out we made an error and he capitalised.......that's sport
@kidcalder but, but it is Jimmy Spithall, the villain!
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lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them
@kidcalder said in Americas Cup:
lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them
Do we?
How is this version of ETNZ funded?
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@kidcalder said in Americas Cup:
lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them
Do we?
How is this version of ETNZ funded?
@Crucial said in Americas Cup:
@kidcalder said in Americas Cup:
lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them
Do we?
How is this version of ETNZ funded?
They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland
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@Crucial said in Americas Cup:
@kidcalder said in Americas Cup:
lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them
Do we?
How is this version of ETNZ funded?
They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland
@canefan said in Americas Cup:
@Crucial said in Americas Cup:
@kidcalder said in Americas Cup:
lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them
Do we?
How is this version of ETNZ funded?
They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
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@canefan said in Americas Cup:
@Crucial said in Americas Cup:
@kidcalder said in Americas Cup:
lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them
Do we?
How is this version of ETNZ funded?
They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
@Crucial said in Americas Cup:
@canefan said in Americas Cup:
@Crucial said in Americas Cup:
@kidcalder said in Americas Cup:
lol yeah seems our reporting needs a villain and to make us the good guys of the Americas Cup... why won't we support our team anyway after all we pay them
Do we?
How is this version of ETNZ funded?
They got little if any taxpayer funding once we lost the Americas Cup qualifying round from Auckland
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I think I read how Dalton or Ashby were saying the lack of government funding frees them from any need to be diplomatic during the regatta. They'll call a spade a spade
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Another good day this morning with 2 wins. Got beaten off line (in terms of speed) by Barker on Oracle Lite but we managed to get past them mid race.
Then a good win vs GBR.
Been betting on these race and making good returns off it so far. Favs are usually $1.50 to $1.75 range with the only real upset so far being Oracle losing to Sweden this morning.
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Bumping this.
Good day for NZ, speed is impressive. However, basic matchracing tactical error of not covering Aussie spitface let Oracle recover from 20 seconds down to get the inside lane at the last or second to last mark. He's a cunning bastardBen Ainslie let his ego get the better of him, red mist, twice. First, a split second decision not to give way to Barker meant he almost killed half the Japan crew. Next, he kept on sailing, and worsening the damage to his hull. Futile, destructive. World's best sailor? Not so far. That would be spitface.
F*ck, indeed! There wss potential for broken backs, for someone being sliced open like a can of tomato and spaghetti. All live on camera.These boats need sensors, and when another boat is within 2m of them, it should be classed as collision for penalty. That would encourage slightly more circumspect sailing.
Go, NZ!
@Wairau said in Americas Cup:
Bumping this.
Good day for NZ, speed is impressive. However, basic matchracing tactical error of not covering Aussie spitface let Oracle recover from 20 seconds down to get the inside lane at the last or second to last mark. He's a cunning bastardThat's monohull tactics. Generally multi-hulls don't cover so much and instead sail across the whole course from ley line to ley line so as to minimize the number of tacks - something multi-hulls traditionally try to avoid. So less likely to see the aggressive tacking duels and covering/giving bad air that we are used to from mono's
Having said that I think TNZ's tacking and gybing has looked very good - much better than Oracles so it might be worth trying to get Spitball into a duel but multi's tend to be more of a drag race
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@Wairau said in Americas Cup:
Bumping this.
Good day for NZ, speed is impressive. However, basic matchracing tactical error of not covering Aussie spitface let Oracle recover from 20 seconds down to get the inside lane at the last or second to last mark. He's a cunning bastardThat's monohull tactics. Generally multi-hulls don't cover so much and instead sail across the whole course from ley line to ley line so as to minimize the number of tacks - something multi-hulls traditionally try to avoid. So less likely to see the aggressive tacking duels and covering/giving bad air that we are used to from mono's
Having said that I think TNZ's tacking and gybing has looked very good - much better than Oracles so it might be worth trying to get Spitball into a duel but multi's tend to be more of a drag race
@dogmeat said in Americas Cup:
sive tacking duels and covering/giving bad air that we are used to from mono's
I am specifically referring to the point when they had built a decent lead, and let Spitface get better wind strength. If they had been out the same side as him, the win would have been assured. They must be careful with this Aussie, he is a slippery c*nt.
I didn't say they should get in a tacking duel, although they would win that, too.
It's sensible, not about mono or multi....
