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    Does RUPA not realise that the ARU, through SANZAAR, sell a product and they need to provide the best product to the buyer?
    What would happen if broadcasters said to SANZAAR that they will only pay for a 10 team comp? where do the excess teams go?
    I'm quite curious on how it works contract wise with the franchises. NZRU has sold 7 year licences to run it's franchises to various commercial parties. I wonder how those get dealt with should we ever be in Australia's position.

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    • NTAN Offline
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      RUPA - like most unions - gives a serious shit about how many paying members it has.

      What's confusing for them here is the slice of the pie doesn't change for the players. Player contracts are a guaranteed percentage of the broadcast contract.

      I'm not sure whether the players pay a percentage to be part of RUPA or a flat fee.

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        RUPA can say what they like.

        Australia needs to lose a team for the good of the comp. Australian teams are miles of the pace.

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          Does RUPA not realise that the ARU, through SANZAAR, sell a product and they need to provide the best product to the buyer?
          What would happen if broadcasters said to SANZAAR that they will only pay for a 10 team comp? where do the excess teams go?
          I'm quite curious on how it works contract wise with the franchises. NZRU has sold 7 year licences to run it's franchises to various commercial parties. I wonder how those get dealt with should we ever be in Australia's position.

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          @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:

          Does RUPA not realise that the ARU, through SANZAAR, sell a product and they need to provide the best product to the buyer?
          What would happen if broadcasters said to SANZAAR that they will only pay for a 10 team comp? where do the excess teams go?
          I'm quite curious on how it works contract wise with the franchises. NZRU has sold 7 year licences to run it's franchises to various commercial parties. I wonder how those get dealt with should we ever be in Australia's position.

          Good points. I assume/hope that something is written into the contract for broadcaster and performance contingencies, much like players often have various 'out' clauses.

          Force gave another inspired example of why the Aussies have too many teams, but hey, happy to wake up to yet another shellacking of an Aussie team.

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            @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:

            Does RUPA not realise that the ARU, through SANZAAR, sell a product and they need to provide the best product to the buyer?
            What would happen if broadcasters said to SANZAAR that they will only pay for a 10 team comp? where do the excess teams go?
            I'm quite curious on how it works contract wise with the franchises. NZRU has sold 7 year licences to run it's franchises to various commercial parties. I wonder how those get dealt with should we ever be in Australia's position.

            Good points. I assume/hope that something is written into the contract for broadcaster and performance contingencies, much like players often have various 'out' clauses.

            Force gave another inspired example of why the Aussies have too many teams, but hey, happy to wake up to yet another shellacking of an Aussie team.

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            @Godder said in Aussie Rugby in general:

            @Crucial said in Aussie Rugby in general:

            Does RUPA not realise that the ARU, through SANZAAR, sell a product and they need to provide the best product to the buyer?
            What would happen if broadcasters said to SANZAAR that they will only pay for a 10 team comp? where do the excess teams go?
            I'm quite curious on how it works contract wise with the franchises. NZRU has sold 7 year licences to run it's franchises to various commercial parties. I wonder how those get dealt with should we ever be in Australia's position.

            Good points. I assume/hope that something is written into the contract for broadcaster and performance contingencies, much like players often have various 'out' clauses.

            Force gave another inspired example of why the Aussies have too many teams, but hey, happy to wake up to yet another shellacking of an Aussie team.

            I concur that seeing them get beaten like a rented mule week after week is quite satisfying on one level on the other hand.......

            ......... nah I've got nothing.

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            • TimT Away
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              So Stephen Moore is going to be Captain this year. 😕

              http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/michael-cheika-says-stephen-moore-will-keep-wallabies-captaincy-in-june-series-20170526-gwdq04.html

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              • TimT Tim

                So Stephen Moore is going to be Captain this year. 😕

                http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/michael-cheika-says-stephen-moore-will-keep-wallabies-captaincy-in-june-series-20170526-gwdq04.html

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                @Tim That is the oddest thing for a coach to say; that captaincy is leadership and not based on selection. So your captain may not take the field... Surely your captain has to be a bolt on starter and only come off the field in the event of injury or the game is effectively sewn up?

                Then again, Cheika thinks 'Moore's playing quite well'

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                • NTAN Offline
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                  Played another full game of First Grade at loosehead yesterday. Fuck I'm old. But not quite as old as the tighthead.

                  0_1495951442670_IMG_20170527_195002~2.jpg

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @Tim That is the oddest thing for a coach to say; that captaincy is leadership and not based on selection. So your captain may not take the field... Surely your captain has to be a bolt on starter and only come off the field in the event of injury or the game is effectively sewn up?

                    Then again, Cheika thinks 'Moore's playing quite well'

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                    @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                    @Tim That is the oddest thing for a coach to say; that captaincy is leadership and not based on selection. So your captain may not take the field... Surely your captain has to be a bolt on starter and only come off the field in the event of injury or the game is effectively sewn up?

                    Then again, Cheika thinks 'Moore's playing quite well'

                    The Alan Shearer theory - named as captain for England because he was the first name on the team sheet.

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                      Moore has been shit for years, that's not a good start to selection.

                      They should put together a competitive 15, but it falls away fast

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                        Played another full game of First Grade at loosehead yesterday. Fuck I'm old. But not quite as old as the tighthead.

                        0_1495951442670_IMG_20170527_195002~2.jpg

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                        Mick Gold Coast QLD
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                        @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                        Played another full game of First Grade at loosehead yesterday. Fuck I'm old. But not quite as old as the tighthead.

                        "another full game of First Grade at loosehead" - as honorable endeavor as a man can pursue, well done!

                        It was a good day for intelligent front rowers on Saturday - I enjoyed watching the Highlander's Siosuia Halanukonuka, a red haired Tongan, motoring towards the posts in the second half there and, when he arrived just short of the line, remembering the Laws of Rugby on advancing the ball (to Lienert-Brown's benefit).

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Moore has been shit for years, that's not a good start to selection.

                          They should put together a competitive 15, but it falls away fast

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                          @mariner4life you pick your 15 and then find the captain, don't name your captain then pick the team, unless your captain picks himself.

                          That said, I haven't watched any Aussie rugby bar when playing NZ teams so are there any better options?

                          IMO Moore needs to go back to playing rugby and stop being the whiney petulant baby he has been the past few seasons.

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                            http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/93118366/australian-rugby-union-cant-rule-out-five-super-rugby-teams-remaining-next-season

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                              Lol fucking hell what a circus of wank stains

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                                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/93118366/australian-rugby-union-cant-rule-out-five-super-rugby-teams-remaining-next-season

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                                @Tim said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/93118366/australian-rugby-union-cant-rule-out-five-super-rugby-teams-remaining-next-season

                                clusterfuck
                                ˈklʌstəfʌk/
                                nounUSvulgar slang
                                noun: clusterfuck; plural noun: clusterfucks; noun: cluster-fuck; plural noun: cluster-fucks
                                a disastrously mishandled situation or undertaking.

                                See also ARU

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                                  Contract freeze lift 'no panacea' but a positive step: RUPA

                                  Australia’s Super Rugby players have welcomed a lift on a national contracting moratorium, but Rugby Union Players’ Association (RUPA) boss Ross Xenos says it’s not a silver bullet for long-term anxiety.
                                  
                                  The ARU and RUPA had agreed on a contracting freeze, believed to have started in February  while the Super Rugby saga played out, but with European contracting time closing and teams no clearer on their future, that has been thawed.
                                  
                                  Should the Force or the Rebels be cut in 2018, existing player contracts would be honoured, whether that player agrees to move to a new team or stay put, regardless of whether there’s a Super Rugby franchise there.
                                  
                                  Xenos said while it wasn’t a perfect solution, with no more certainty on which teams would be in Super Rugby in 2018, it was a step forward.
                                  
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                                    Waratahs wearing a Pasifika jersey on July 8 against the Jaguares. I like it.

                                    0_1496903801863_pasifikaNSW.jpg

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                                      Waratahs wearing a Pasifika jersey on July 8 against the Jaguares. I like it.

                                      0_1496903801863_pasifikaNSW.jpg

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                                      @NTA I like it, too. They should wear this all year instead of that horrible 2017 jersey.

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                                        State of my club: we've been released from playing First Grade in our Division. Means we play 2s and 3s each week. Very unusual but the stipulation on other clubs is to rest legit First Grade players.

                                        So it'll be slightly easier, but we're still up against it. At least my old blokes still get a trot against a measured opposition in Thirsty Thirds.

                                        Only 8 weeks to go in this shitty season.

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                                          Pulver survives and an Aussie Super Rugby moving to 4 teams is confirmed

                                          "There were three topics on the agenda at ARU HQ on Tuesday.

                                          The first was whether it is in Australia’s best interests to have five Super Rugby teams until 2020, the second whether the ARU should reconsider its decision to axe a team and the third whether it should create a Super Rugby commission to help govern that aspect of the game.

                                          Clyne said the first two motions were defeated and the third was upheld, meaning the commission will be created with details yet to be confirmed."

                                          http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/bill-pulver-survives-aru-egm-and-four-team-super-rugby-future-is-confirmed/news-story/4967c15a550ed46bfe5705f83702d1aa

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