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  • TimT Tim

    So Stephen Moore is going to be Captain this year. 😕

    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/michael-cheika-says-stephen-moore-will-keep-wallabies-captaincy-in-june-series-20170526-gwdq04.html

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    @Tim That is the oddest thing for a coach to say; that captaincy is leadership and not based on selection. So your captain may not take the field... Surely your captain has to be a bolt on starter and only come off the field in the event of injury or the game is effectively sewn up?

    Then again, Cheika thinks 'Moore's playing quite well'

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      Played another full game of First Grade at loosehead yesterday. Fuck I'm old. But not quite as old as the tighthead.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Tim That is the oddest thing for a coach to say; that captaincy is leadership and not based on selection. So your captain may not take the field... Surely your captain has to be a bolt on starter and only come off the field in the event of injury or the game is effectively sewn up?

        Then again, Cheika thinks 'Moore's playing quite well'

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        @antipodean said in Aussie Rugby in general:

        @Tim That is the oddest thing for a coach to say; that captaincy is leadership and not based on selection. So your captain may not take the field... Surely your captain has to be a bolt on starter and only come off the field in the event of injury or the game is effectively sewn up?

        Then again, Cheika thinks 'Moore's playing quite well'

        The Alan Shearer theory - named as captain for England because he was the first name on the team sheet.

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          Moore has been shit for years, that's not a good start to selection.

          They should put together a competitive 15, but it falls away fast

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          • NTAN NTA

            Played another full game of First Grade at loosehead yesterday. Fuck I'm old. But not quite as old as the tighthead.

            0_1495951442670_IMG_20170527_195002~2.jpg

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            @NTA said in Aussie Rugby in general:

            Played another full game of First Grade at loosehead yesterday. Fuck I'm old. But not quite as old as the tighthead.

            "another full game of First Grade at loosehead" - as honorable endeavor as a man can pursue, well done!

            It was a good day for intelligent front rowers on Saturday - I enjoyed watching the Highlander's Siosuia Halanukonuka, a red haired Tongan, motoring towards the posts in the second half there and, when he arrived just short of the line, remembering the Laws of Rugby on advancing the ball (to Lienert-Brown's benefit).

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              Moore has been shit for years, that's not a good start to selection.

              They should put together a competitive 15, but it falls away fast

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              @mariner4life you pick your 15 and then find the captain, don't name your captain then pick the team, unless your captain picks himself.

              That said, I haven't watched any Aussie rugby bar when playing NZ teams so are there any better options?

              IMO Moore needs to go back to playing rugby and stop being the whiney petulant baby he has been the past few seasons.

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                http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/93118366/australian-rugby-union-cant-rule-out-five-super-rugby-teams-remaining-next-season

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                  Lol fucking hell what a circus of wank stains

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                  • TimT Tim

                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/93118366/australian-rugby-union-cant-rule-out-five-super-rugby-teams-remaining-next-season

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                    @Tim said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/93118366/australian-rugby-union-cant-rule-out-five-super-rugby-teams-remaining-next-season

                    clusterfuck
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                    nounUSvulgar slang
                    noun: clusterfuck; plural noun: clusterfucks; noun: cluster-fuck; plural noun: cluster-fucks
                    a disastrously mishandled situation or undertaking.

                    See also ARU

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                      Contract freeze lift 'no panacea' but a positive step: RUPA

                      Australia’s Super Rugby players have welcomed a lift on a national contracting moratorium, but Rugby Union Players’ Association (RUPA) boss Ross Xenos says it’s not a silver bullet for long-term anxiety.
                      
                      The ARU and RUPA had agreed on a contracting freeze, believed to have started in February  while the Super Rugby saga played out, but with European contracting time closing and teams no clearer on their future, that has been thawed.
                      
                      Should the Force or the Rebels be cut in 2018, existing player contracts would be honoured, whether that player agrees to move to a new team or stay put, regardless of whether there’s a Super Rugby franchise there.
                      
                      Xenos said while it wasn’t a perfect solution, with no more certainty on which teams would be in Super Rugby in 2018, it was a step forward.
                      
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                        Waratahs wearing a Pasifika jersey on July 8 against the Jaguares. I like it.

                        0_1496903801863_pasifikaNSW.jpg

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                        • NTAN NTA

                          Waratahs wearing a Pasifika jersey on July 8 against the Jaguares. I like it.

                          0_1496903801863_pasifikaNSW.jpg

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                          @NTA I like it, too. They should wear this all year instead of that horrible 2017 jersey.

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                            State of my club: we've been released from playing First Grade in our Division. Means we play 2s and 3s each week. Very unusual but the stipulation on other clubs is to rest legit First Grade players.

                            So it'll be slightly easier, but we're still up against it. At least my old blokes still get a trot against a measured opposition in Thirsty Thirds.

                            Only 8 weeks to go in this shitty season.

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                              Pulver survives and an Aussie Super Rugby moving to 4 teams is confirmed

                              "There were three topics on the agenda at ARU HQ on Tuesday.

                              The first was whether it is in Australia’s best interests to have five Super Rugby teams until 2020, the second whether the ARU should reconsider its decision to axe a team and the third whether it should create a Super Rugby commission to help govern that aspect of the game.

                              Clyne said the first two motions were defeated and the third was upheld, meaning the commission will be created with details yet to be confirmed."

                              http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/bill-pulver-survives-aru-egm-and-four-team-super-rugby-future-is-confirmed/news-story/4967c15a550ed46bfe5705f83702d1aa

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                                Pulver survives and an Aussie Super Rugby moving to 4 teams is confirmed

                                "There were three topics on the agenda at ARU HQ on Tuesday.

                                The first was whether it is in Australia’s best interests to have five Super Rugby teams until 2020, the second whether the ARU should reconsider its decision to axe a team and the third whether it should create a Super Rugby commission to help govern that aspect of the game.

                                Clyne said the first two motions were defeated and the third was upheld, meaning the commission will be created with details yet to be confirmed."

                                http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/bill-pulver-survives-aru-egm-and-four-team-super-rugby-future-is-confirmed/news-story/4967c15a550ed46bfe5705f83702d1aa

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                                @KiwiMurph That's unsurprising; they literally can't afford five teams. The quality of the product is a nice side issue that's permitted this debate to exist.

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                                  @KiwiMurph That's unsurprising; they literally can't afford five teams. The quality of the product is a nice side issue that's permitted this debate to exist.

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                                  @antipodean I agree. Its the only way forward. I understand Pulver's contract isnt too far from expiring so I imagine he wont be around all that much longer.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    Pulver survives and an Aussie Super Rugby moving to 4 teams is confirmed

                                    "There were three topics on the agenda at ARU HQ on Tuesday.

                                    The first was whether it is in Australia’s best interests to have five Super Rugby teams until 2020, the second whether the ARU should reconsider its decision to axe a team and the third whether it should create a Super Rugby commission to help govern that aspect of the game.

                                    Clyne said the first two motions were defeated and the third was upheld, meaning the commission will be created with details yet to be confirmed."

                                    http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/bill-pulver-survives-aru-egm-and-four-team-super-rugby-future-is-confirmed/news-story/4967c15a550ed46bfe5705f83702d1aa

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                                    @KiwiMurph gotta love bureaucrats having a meeting that results in them deciding that they need an extra group of bureaucrats to have more meetings.

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                                      State of my club: we've been released from playing First Grade in our Division. Means we play 2s and 3s each week. Very unusual but the stipulation on other clubs is to rest legit First Grade players.

                                      So it'll be slightly easier, but we're still up against it. At least my old blokes still get a trot against a measured opposition in Thirsty Thirds.

                                      Only 8 weeks to go in this shitty season.

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                                      @NTA Fuck that is a tough time. I feel you as my club is also struggling for numbers big time, two years ago we got kicked out from the championship(to be more precise we pulled the plug before the axe came) then to go on and win div 1 last year, only to be relegated to div 2 due to being unsure if we could field 15 players per game. But now there has been some good hassle around to recruit more players and so far we have had a full XV for all games.

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                                        @KiwiMurph gotta love bureaucrats having a meeting that results in them deciding that they need an extra group of bureaucrats to have more meetings.

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                                        @reprobate said in Aussie Rugby in general:

                                        @KiwiMurph gotta love bureaucrats having a meeting that results in them deciding that they need an extra group of bureaucrats to have more meetings.

                                        I have it on good authority that the Committee responsible for Sub-Committees will get increased budget is required to fund its own Sub-Committee.

                                        This newly-formed Sub-Committee of the Committee for Sub-Committees will take on the lesser duties of the Sub-Committee Committee and allow the Sub-Committee Committee to focus more properly on the Sub-Committees requiring more focus.

                                        The next meeting of the Committee for Sub-Committees is on Thursday week, while the new Sub-Committee of the Committee for Sub-Committees meets every third Tuesday and second Wednesday. This is to avoid a clash of the meeting of the Committee for Managing Committees.

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                                          Following on from Nick's club issues, I can see that this is being replicated across many of the Rugby Clubs in Sydney.
                                          My club, in Sydney's upper north shore, is now struggling to get players to turn out for most grades including Golden Oldies which I play. Where once the club had enough kids and teens for two or more teams for many of the age groups, there are barely enough kids for one team now.
                                          At GO's we are struggling to get a full team each fortnight for game days and most often we are scratching for players from other clubs to get a full 15 on the field whereas only a few years ago, we'd have a full team plus another 6 - 10 players on the sidelines waiting for their turn to get on the paddock.
                                          We see this across most of the teams we play in GO's. Seldom does a side get 15+ to turn out for a match or gala day and instead most of the 15 that line up for a game are a hybrid of two or more teams.
                                          Sure there are some clubs out there in Sydney that will always be traditionally strong, Mosman for one which my son used to play for, but many of the more borderline clubs that are in areas where young players are being lured away from Rugby by Soccer and AFL are really struggling for players and supporters.
                                          This is the big issue that the ARU is not really addressing.

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