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    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    Liins team announcement this evening around 9/10pm Irish time apparently.

    I suppose it won't matter what the time is in Scotland.

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    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    Liins team announcement this evening around 9/10pm Irish time apparently.

    I suppose it won't matter what the time is in Scotland.

    A small wager that all three will be in Saturday's team?

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    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    Liins team announcement this evening around 9/10pm Irish time apparently.

    I suppose it won't matter what the time is in Scotland.

    A small wager that all three will be in Saturday's team?

    Won't matter. The sweaties have all forgotten about it anyway.

    But yes, could be the case.

    Gatland may want to play as many first stringers as possible in this game to give them time during the week to train for the Crusaders game. He certainly won't want a Saturday loss early on the tour.

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    Lions 2005: Inside the Lions den is on at the moment on Sky UK.
    Interesting watching, especially a lot of what would now be considered old school dealing with players.
    Keep getting glimpses of this orange guy called Gavin that looks like an overgrown Oompa Loompa.

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    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    Liins team announcement this evening around 9/10pm Irish time apparently.

    I suppose it won't matter what the time is in Scotland.

    A small wager that all three will be in Saturday's team?

    Won't matter. The sweaties have all forgotten about it anyway.

    But yes, could be the case.

    Gatland may want to play as many first stringers as possible in this game to give them time during the week to train for the Crusaders game. He certainly won't want a Saturday loss early on the tour.

    On the other hand he may want to go with my selection.....

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    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    Liins team announcement this evening around 9/10pm Irish time apparently.

    I suppose it won't matter what the time is in Scotland.

    A small wager that all three will be in Saturday's team?

    Won't matter. The sweaties have all forgotten about it anyway.

    But yes, could be the case.

    Gatland may want to play as many first stringers as possible in this game to give them time during the week to train for the Crusaders game. He certainly won't want a Saturday loss early on the tour.

    On the other hand he may want to go with my selection.....

    Will you be naming the team each Wednesday? That will really upset things.

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    Nah - I've told Gatty (best mates already) that I won't spoil his fun.

    He's gone with my advice to get all the players out on the paddock by Game Three - that's good enough for me. I'll let him take it from there - you have to let these guys stand on their own feet at some stage.....

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    I just noticed that Ollie Jager - formerly of this parish - is in the NZ Baa-Baas squad as TH prop.

    Wonder if he'll get a game. He played with Garry Ringrose in the Schools Cup-winning team for Blackrock a few years ago.

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    An interesting fact I had forgotten that came up in this doco I am watching is that Gordy Slater played the Lions twice, 12 years apart. Good man. Can't be too many that have done that.

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    @Pot-Hale how is Gatland though of in Ireland after coaching there?

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    @Crucial Kaino will do the same.

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    @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale how is Gatland though of in Ireland after coaching there?

    Anyone I would talk to in rugby in my age group wouldn't even think about him as a former Ireland coach, to be honest. Too long ago. He'd probably be more remembered for his comments about Welsh players hating Irish players priot to a 6N match a few years ago which didn't work out too well for him, and his non-selection of O'Driscoll for the Lions in 2013.

    But I could care less. He's a spiky kind of guy - the world is made up of all sorts. At the end of the day, it's results that count in his business.

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    @Pot-Hale said in B&I Lions 2017:

    Anyone I would talk to in rugby in my age group wouldn't even think about him as a former Ireland coach, to be honest. Too long ago. He'd probably be more remembered for his comments about Welsh players hating Irish players priot to a 6N match a few years ago which didn't work out too well for him, and his non-selection of O'Driscoll for the Lions in 2013.

    Speaking of Gatland and O'Driscoll...

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    One thing I think is very noticeable in difference between 2005 and what I have seen so far is the knowledge about NZ that Gatland has added.
    The response to the powhiri was good and confident. In 2005 A handful of Lions looked very uncomfortable and almost giggled through a rendition of Bread of Heaven.
    Gaining a bit of respect off the field will help a lot with the on field performances.

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    @Crucial Yeah, one weird observation by Woodward - something about if he did it again he wouldn't try to gain respect off the field. Complete lack of self-awareness.

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    @jegga said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Pot-Hale how is Gatland though of in Ireland after coaching there?

    He is utterly loathed in Ireland.

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    Gatland has flexibility and flair to shelve Warrenball and challenge New Zealand

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    @Kruse said in B&I Lions 2017:

    @Crucial Yeah, one weird observation by Woodward - something about if he did it again he wouldn't try to gain respect off the field. Complete lack of self-awareness.

    That would be easy to do if basing the team out of Melbourne (while simultaneously playing more provincial matches).

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    @Crucial said in B&I Lions 2017:

    An interesting fact I had forgotten that came up in this doco I am watching is that Gordy Slater played the Lions twice, 12 years apart. Good man. Can't be too many that have done that.

    Chris Smylie came off the bench for Otago in 2005 too and is/was in the WTG for the Canes earlier - could come off the bench if Perenara is not released.

    Donald would have played if Waikato had been scheduled or he qualified for NZ Maori (or does he and Hill was selected over him?)

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    gotta have some Haka talk, I see it has lost it's Mystique, Auras less famous and less able cousin!

    Interestingly, it says Dawson (of Hakarena fame) and Merhts agree, yet I cant see any quotes form Merhts in the article?

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/93273863/lions-tour-matt-dawson-and-andrew-mehrtens-agree-haka-has-lost-mystique

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