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AB's v Samoa

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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    Strong looking side ,

    Who else could work their way into that side ? Naholo

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    @kiwiinmelb said in AB's v Samoa:

    Strong looking side ,

    Who else could work their way into that side ? Naholo

    Romano could get on the bench. Ioane maybe if his form is irrepressible on Saturday in much the same way Naholo's was for the Highlanders perhaps he is a wildcard?

    Outside of that just injuries.

    Nicely done by Ben Smith, just the fourth back to captain NZ since David Kirk.

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    • mimicM mimic

      All Blacks team to play Samoa at Eden Park tomorrow night:

      Ben Smith (c), Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Julian Savea, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane, Jerome Kaino, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Owen Franks, Codie Taylor, Joe Moodie.

      Reserves Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Scott Barrett, Vaea Fifita, TJ Perenara, Lima Sopoaga, Jordie Barrett.

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      Ben Smith (c)
      Israel Dagg
      Anton Lienert-Brown
      Sonny Bill Williams - Crotty may start
      Julian Savea
      Beauden Barrett
      Aaron Smith - Chance to claim the starting spot ahead of test one
      Ardie Savea - Read obviously with Ardie to the bench
      Sam Cane
      Jerome Kaino
      Brodie Retallick
      Sam Whitelock
      Owen Franks
      Codie Taylor
      Joe Moodie

      Nathan Harris
      Wyatt Crockett
      Charlie Faumuina
      Scott Barrett - Romano may be selected for test one due to experience
      Vaea Fifita - Ardie to bench, Fifita drops out of the 23
      TJ Perenara
      Lima Sopoaga - Cruden to come in if fit due to experience
      Jordie Barrett - SBW or Crotty depending who starts, Jordie drops out of the 23

      Overall the team is as expected, as close to a shadow test team while allowing a couple of guys more time to get themselves fit.

      Tough for Rieko to make it, he has to either take Crotty or SBWs spot (unlikely) or J Savea's starting position (possible, but unlikely for test one).

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        When was the team named?

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        • CrucialC Crucial

          When was the team named?

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          @Crucial said in AB's v Samoa:

          When was the team named?

          Wednesday (GMT)

          Strong team. Looking forward to seeing how Ardie goes at 8. Also interested to see how tgey use Jordie.

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            Very strong team, I really want to see the lineout function well. The Crusaders for whatever reason really struggled and handed over plenty of ball vs Lions.

            I think discipline also needs to be at the forefront as any penalties vs the Lions will likely end in points in our 50.

            I'm looking forward to the two games this weekend.

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              This test starts at 8 pm not the usual 7:35 pm.

              Obviously they didn't want to start the first game too early to ensure a larger crowd (Auckland traffic and all that).

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                Really looking forward to that midfield working together - never have played together before but both offer terrific offloading skills - bit of a nightmare to defend I would have thought.

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                • pukunuiP pukunui

                  @Crucial said in AB's v Samoa:

                  When was the team named?

                  Wednesday (GMT)

                  Strong team. Looking forward to seeing how Ardie goes at 8. Also interested to see how tgey use Jordie.

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                  @pukunui said in AB's v Samoa:

                  @Crucial said in AB's v Samoa:

                  When was the team named?

                  Wednesday (GMT)

                  Strong team. Looking forward to seeing how Ardie goes at 8. Also interested to see how tgey use Jordie.

                  In there for his lineout height no doubt

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @pukunui said in AB's v Samoa:

                    @Crucial said in AB's v Samoa:

                    When was the team named?

                    Wednesday (GMT)

                    Strong team. Looking forward to seeing how Ardie goes at 8. Also interested to see how tgey use Jordie.

                    In there for his lineout height no doubt

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                    @MN5 its the gift that just keeps on giving

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                      Shag obviously wary of the Lions by wheeling the test side out this week.

                      J Barrett is fucking lucky to be there.
                      Fifita is even luckier

                      I assume S Barrett is there over Romano because he needs the run?

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Shag obviously wary of the Lions by wheeling the test side out this week.

                        J Barrett is fucking lucky to be there.
                        Fifita is even luckier

                        I assume S Barrett is there over Romano because he needs the run?

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                        @mariner4life don't know if it is so much wary as in a few guys need a run and we need to hit the field running given we are usually a bit rusty, which isn't usually so bad in the 1st test against a depleted Wales/Ireland/France or England.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @pukunui said in AB's v Samoa:

                          @Crucial said in AB's v Samoa:

                          When was the team named?

                          Wednesday (GMT)

                          Strong team. Looking forward to seeing how Ardie goes at 8. Also interested to see how tgey use Jordie.

                          In there for his lineout height no doubt

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                          @MN5 said in AB's v Samoa:

                          @pukunui said in AB's v Samoa:

                          @Crucial said in AB's v Samoa:

                          When was the team named?

                          Wednesday (GMT)

                          Strong team. Looking forward to seeing how Ardie goes at 8. Also interested to see how tgey use Jordie.

                          In there for his lineout height no doubt

                          Jordie? Well the Canes used him there a few weeks back so worth a try.

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                            @Crucial the Cardie

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                              Not sure about the wingers. Dagg doesnt appear to be up to speed and Savea has been pretty nard most of the season (which is ironic because he didn't show up fat this year). Ioane looked like he was born to play test rugby the other day and deserves a shot.

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                                The anti-Savea talk is so tedious. We get it every AB season. Meanwhile his strike rate continues at about a try a game. We see how he goes against Samoa.

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                                  @Billy-Tell said in AB's v Samoa:

                                  The anti-Savea talk is so tedious. We get it every AB season. Meanwhile his strike rate continues at about a try a game. We see how he goes against Samoa.

                                  He really hasn't had too many genuine challengers for his jersey recently until now. Naholo constantly gets injured. I don't think Julian Savea is the same athlete that he was in 2012-14. Reminds me a little bit of how Rokocoko changed during his career. Having said that Rieko will really need an exceptional performance for the Maori (including high accuracy such as high ball takes etc) to get close to the 11 jersey just yet.

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                                    Prediction: Rieko will be the starting 11 by the 2019 RWC, with >20 test tries by then , and J Savea won't make that squad.

                                    The times, they are a-changing.

                                    I wonder what odds you'd get on Rieko being the top RWC try scorer this far out?

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                                      Prediction: Rieko will be the starting 11 by the 2019 RWC, with >20 test tries by then , and J Savea won't make that squad.

                                      The times, they are a-changing.

                                      I wonder what odds you'd get on Rieko being the top RWC try scorer this far out?

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                                      @TeWaio said in AB's v Samoa:

                                      Prediction: Rieko will be the starting 11 by the 2019 RWC, with >20 test tries by then , and J Savea won't make that squad.

                                      The times, they are a-changing.

                                      I wonder what odds you'd get on Rieko being the top RWC try scorer this far out?

                                      History suggests you are correct. Jules is 26 now turning 27 in a couple of months, which is about the age a lot of AB wingers careers start to tail off and they are replaced by the next up-and-comer.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @Billy-Tell said in AB's v Samoa:

                                        The anti-Savea talk is so tedious. We get it every AB season. Meanwhile his strike rate continues at about a try a game. We see how he goes against Samoa.

                                        He really hasn't had too many genuine challengers for his jersey recently until now. Naholo constantly gets injured. I don't think Julian Savea is the same athlete that he was in 2012-14. Reminds me a little bit of how Rokocoko changed during his career. Having said that Rieko will really need an exceptional performance for the Maori (including high accuracy such as high ball takes etc) to get close to the 11 jersey just yet.

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                                        @KiwiMurph I think Rok adapted his game a bit better than Savea seems to be doing that enabled him to prolong his career with slightly less scrutiny.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @KiwiMurph I think Rok adapted his game a bit better than Savea seems to be doing that enabled him to prolong his career with slightly less scrutiny.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in AB's v Samoa:

                                          @KiwiMurph I think Rok adapted his game a bit better than Savea seems to be doing that enabled him to prolong his career with slightly less scrutiny.

                                          Rok got ripped apart on the fern when he lost that attacking spark he had. It's pretty brutal being an AB outside back unless you're capable of switching to the midfield.

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