All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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@mariner4life He was good initially, but faltered. Honetly, I feel more confident in TJP starting. Smith's passing was inconsistent at times.
@Tim i completely disagree. His speed to the ruck and his service is huge for us. And TJ is more erratic than Smith. The double punch at the moment is perfect.
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I thought we lost a lot of shape and structure with the injuries ,
Mainly because of beaudy moving away from the ball I think ,I think he has matured as a first receiver , not so sure I like him moving back these days
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Oh and when you are up by 15 and have an easy shot at goal take the fucking 3.
Pushing it to 18 forces them to score 3 tries not 2 plus a penalty. No point going for the try when there are no bonus points.
Again like the Crusaders game if you really must go for a try why not take the scrum that you have been dominating? -
@rotated said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Does Cruden have some link to Hawkes Bay? Smithy pumping his tires for his performance today big time.
Smithy is from the Poo.
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@rotated said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Does Cruden have some link to Hawkes Bay? Smithy pumping his tires for his performance today big time.
Smithy is from the Poo.
Actually, he was born in Nelson.
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Good game.
Good by Peyper.
Scrum dominance by NZ not a surprise. Lions lineout is superb.
I thought the Lions would have it over us on the ruck, maul, choke tackle etc, but nz pack was superb.Re: Choke tackle, everyone (backs included) manage to get to ground when tackled.
Not sure the impact of Peyper keeping them onside on the non set piece dominance of the AB forwards. Needs more thought ....
Nullifying the rush defence wasn't just down to Peyper , the first half session of prolonged very quick ruck ball and attacking narrow to rucks was tactical masterpiece.
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@Bones Start TJP next week?
Dagg to fullback I guess, or do they go for Jordie?
Ioane and Naholo the wings? Or does Savea come back?
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones Start TJP next week?
Dagg to fullback I guess, or do they go for Jordie?
Ioane and Naholo the wings? Or does Savea come back?
I wouldn't be surprised if they bring Jordie in. The two fullbacks is an important part of our gameplan.
We did lose our shape when Cruden came on to 1st 5. He got a little better later in the 2nd half. But I'm not the biggest fan of moving Barrett from 1st 5. He's currently our best 1st 5 so should play 80 there if he's fit.
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Unsung hero was SBW, who was used almost obsessively to cart it up, often off static ball or poor passes.
@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Unsung hero was SBW, who was used almost obsessively to cart it up, often off static ball or poor passes.
It was like having an extra loose forward on the field. He attracted at least two every time, sometimes three. Love a couple of very quick recycles he created in that first half. Eliminate the errors and vary his running line a bit more.
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Unsung hero was SBW, who was used almost obsessively to cart it up, often off static ball or poor passes.
It was like having an extra loose forward on the field. He attracted at least two every time, sometimes three. Love a couple of very quick recycles he created in that first half. Eliminate the errors and vary his running line a bit more.
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@ACT-Crusader His quick recycles were really good. Loved the quick ball.
@Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.
One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.
My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.
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@Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.
One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.
My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.
One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.
My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.
Are you talking about that period just after he got jammed, was clearly in need of a spell, but kept being given the seed? He clearly didn't want to throw himself in to the teeth for a few minutes.
Because itherwise his touchrs in attack were better than i expected. Couple of guys beaten with footwork, and some slick short passes
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@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.
One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.
My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.
Are you talking about that period just after he got jammed, was clearly in need of a spell, but kept being given the seed? He clearly didn't want to throw himself in to the teeth for a few minutes.
Because itherwise his touchrs in attack were better than i expected. Couple of guys beaten with footwork, and some slick short passes
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.
One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.
My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.
Are you talking about that period just after he got jammed, was clearly in need of a spell, but kept being given the seed? He clearly didn't want to throw himself in to the teeth for a few minutes.
Because itherwise his touchrs in attack were better than i expected. Couple of guys beaten with footwork, and some slick short passes
Yeah he was laid out big time but after that the ball kept coming his way, 10 or so after that he seemed ok again.
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Haven't read all the posts but was at the game and overall thoughts are that we were ok, maybe a 5/10. Lions slightly better and 6/10 but our 10 is a whole lot better than theirs. Expected us to win by 30
Injuries weren't helpful and so early too. We became disjointed and BB dropping back to 15 made a big different to our attack. BBs goal kicking tho was brilliant.
Don't think think the lions will get that close again
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Good win. AB forwards were ruthless at ruck time and kept our ball moving. What irony that our second string front row won penalty against Lions strongest scrummaging tight five. Loss of concentration I imagine. Compounded by Ioane snatching try.
Our bomb catching very average, shades of 2009, as previously commented. Our lineout throwins looked too flat to me, often leaving scope for an opportunistic steal. Whitelock showed at end with replacement props that he could match Kruis for height.
I expect we could be facing a number of maul penalties if we use same tactics and with French refs. BBBR got away with absolute murder on won occasion.
AB brains trust had done their homework on neutering rush defence by driving in close to rucks and Nugget probing blind side incessantly.
BBBR and Read were tied for my MOTM. -
Great test. For 50 minutes that was nail biting stuff. Some huge performances from both sets of players.
Crowd seemed to go quiet when we pulled away? Celebrate you bastards
Enjoyed that. Not something I have said after many tests over the last couple of years.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Great test. For 50 minutes that was nail biting stuff. Some huge performances from both sets of players.
Crowd seemed to go quiet when we pulled away? Celebrate you bastards
Crowd had a huge red contingent.
Apparently 30k of tickets when to lions supporters??
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Taylor's missed tackle on Davies was a cardinal sin.
Yeah it was bad. Our whole defensive line seemed poor in that phase. Our hooker marking a class centre was not good.
The same in that 1st half when we were caught wide of the ruck with tight forward marking backs. Lions almost score a try.
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Taylor's missed tackle on Davies was a cardinal sin.
Yeah it was bad. Our whole defensive line seemed poor in that phase. Our hooker marking a class centre was not good.
The same in that 1st half when we were caught wide of the ruck with tight forward marking backs. Lions almost score a try.
@ACT-Crusader Yeah, he was one of many to miss tackles during that period, so unfair to single him out. ALTHOUGH, he was in good position to tackle and went too high.
