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All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1

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    Unsung hero was SBW, who was used almost obsessively to cart it up, often off static ball or poor passes.

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    • TimT Tim

      @Bones Start TJP next week?

      Dagg to fullback I guess, or do they go for Jordie?

      Ioane and Naholo the wings? Or does Savea come back?

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      @Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

      @Bones Start TJP next week?

      Dagg to fullback I guess, or do they go for Jordie?

      Ioane and Naholo the wings? Or does Savea come back?

      I wouldn't be surprised if they bring Jordie in. The two fullbacks is an important part of our gameplan.

      We did lose our shape when Cruden came on to 1st 5. He got a little better later in the 2nd half. But I'm not the biggest fan of moving Barrett from 1st 5. He's currently our best 1st 5 so should play 80 there if he's fit.

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      • TimT Tim

        Unsung hero was SBW, who was used almost obsessively to cart it up, often off static ball or poor passes.

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        @Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

        Unsung hero was SBW, who was used almost obsessively to cart it up, often off static ball or poor passes.

        It was like having an extra loose forward on the field. He attracted at least two every time, sometimes three. Love a couple of very quick recycles he created in that first half. Eliminate the errors and vary his running line a bit more.

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          Lions back 3 were great. No, back 4 were great, Davies was superb.

          Weird game. As others have said, many of the expected strengths and weaknesses were flipped on their heads.

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

            Unsung hero was SBW, who was used almost obsessively to cart it up, often off static ball or poor passes.

            It was like having an extra loose forward on the field. He attracted at least two every time, sometimes three. Love a couple of very quick recycles he created in that first half. Eliminate the errors and vary his running line a bit more.

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            @ACT-Crusader His quick recycles were really good. Loved the quick ball.

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            • TimT Tim

              @ACT-Crusader His quick recycles were really good. Loved the quick ball.

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              @Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.

              One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.

              My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.

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                @Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.

                One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.

                My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.

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                @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                @Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.

                One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.

                My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.

                Are you talking about that period just after he got jammed, was clearly in need of a spell, but kept being given the seed? He clearly didn't want to throw himself in to the teeth for a few minutes.

                Because itherwise his touchrs in attack were better than i expected. Couple of guys beaten with footwork, and some slick short passes

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  @Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.

                  One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.

                  My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.

                  Are you talking about that period just after he got jammed, was clearly in need of a spell, but kept being given the seed? He clearly didn't want to throw himself in to the teeth for a few minutes.

                  Because itherwise his touchrs in attack were better than i expected. Couple of guys beaten with footwork, and some slick short passes

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                  @Tim yeah don't think I'd gamble on TJP, his passing this season has been atrocious at times. Smith just needs time out there I guess.

                  One thing I was disappointed with on Cane was his propensity to get a bit lost when the ball is coming his way on attack - but again, time out there fixes that.

                  My call on ALB possibly covering wing looks like it was a bit shit - he was shown up badly for pace a couple of times.

                  Are you talking about that period just after he got jammed, was clearly in need of a spell, but kept being given the seed? He clearly didn't want to throw himself in to the teeth for a few minutes.

                  Because itherwise his touchrs in attack were better than i expected. Couple of guys beaten with footwork, and some slick short passes

                  Yeah he was laid out big time but after that the ball kept coming his way, 10 or so after that he seemed ok again.

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                    Haven't read all the posts but was at the game and overall thoughts are that we were ok, maybe a 5/10. Lions slightly better and 6/10 but our 10 is a whole lot better than theirs. Expected us to win by 30

                    Injuries weren't helpful and so early too. We became disjointed and BB dropping back to 15 made a big different to our attack. BBs goal kicking tho was brilliant.

                    Don't think think the lions will get that close again

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                      Good win. AB forwards were ruthless at ruck time and kept our ball moving. What irony that our second string front row won penalty against Lions strongest scrummaging tight five. Loss of concentration I imagine. Compounded by Ioane snatching try.
                      Our bomb catching very average, shades of 2009, as previously commented. Our lineout throwins looked too flat to me, often leaving scope for an opportunistic steal. Whitelock showed at end with replacement props that he could match Kruis for height.
                      I expect we could be facing a number of maul penalties if we use same tactics and with French refs. BBBR got away with absolute murder on won occasion.
                      AB brains trust had done their homework on neutering rush defence by driving in close to rucks and Nugget probing blind side incessantly.
                      BBBR and Read were tied for my MOTM.

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                        Taylor's missed tackle on Davies was a cardinal sin.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Great test. For 50 minutes that was nail biting stuff. Some huge performances from both sets of players.

                          Crowd seemed to go quiet when we pulled away? Celebrate you bastards

                          Enjoyed that. Not something I have said after many tests over the last couple of years.

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                          Great test. For 50 minutes that was nail biting stuff. Some huge performances from both sets of players.

                          Crowd seemed to go quiet when we pulled away? Celebrate you bastards

                          Crowd had a huge red contingent.
                          Apparently 30k of tickets when to lions supporters??
                          They were everywhere

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Taylor's missed tackle on Davies was a cardinal sin.

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                            @Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                            Taylor's missed tackle on Davies was a cardinal sin.

                            Yeah it was bad. Our whole defensive line seemed poor in that phase. Our hooker marking a class centre was not good.

                            The same in that 1st half when we were caught wide of the ruck with tight forward marking backs. Lions almost score a try.

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                              @Tim said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                              Taylor's missed tackle on Davies was a cardinal sin.

                              Yeah it was bad. Our whole defensive line seemed poor in that phase. Our hooker marking a class centre was not good.

                              The same in that 1st half when we were caught wide of the ruck with tight forward marking backs. Lions almost score a try.

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                              @ACT-Crusader Yeah, he was one of many to miss tackles during that period, so unfair to single him out. ALTHOUGH, he was in good position to tackle and went too high.

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                                That Read tackle on Farrell before that penalty was a beauty.

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                                  God damn that scrum for the try was pure pleasure.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    Not selecting Hayley Westenra is a mistake IMO

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                    Not selecting Hayley Westenra is a mistake IMO

                                    Yes.

                                    And no.

                                    Old mate was quite good with the singing.

                                    But was not Hayley Westenra.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      God damn that scrum for the try was pure pleasure.

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                                      @Tim Charlie Faumuina, baby. Most underrated player in NZ.

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                                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                        Fowrward for me. Technique from Dagg all wrong.

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                                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                        Fowrward for me. Technique from Dagg all wrong.

                                        Two words ...

                                        "Ba"

                                        And "Hahahahaha"

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                                        • D Derm McCrum

                                          Forward pass to Cody

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                                          @Pot-Hale said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:

                                          Forward pass to Cody

                                          Two words :

                                          "bull"

                                          And some other word I forget...

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