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All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2

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  • ToddyT Toddy

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    Gatland's comments appear to be in response to Kaino's actions on one particular occasion. And I have no problem with him saying something. In that instance, Kaino can't say he is trying to charge down the kick from Murray, or tackle him.

    The other stuff is all part of the game as kickers get hassled all the time.

    Was that the ruck where the Lions 8 pushed Kaino over?

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    @Toddy I don't know.

    I just remember Kaino coming from the opposite side to charge down a right-footed box kick from Murray but he never got there in time so ended up collecting Murray's feet after he had already kicked the ball.

    I'm sure someone can make a gif of it to confirm.

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      Hopefully this works

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        Look at the arms. Full commitment to a charge-down.

        http://i.imgur.com/8Ca13FH.gifv

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          Also, Faletau does his best to bump him over.

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            Finally (!), it's 100% legal to tackle a player attempting a kick, so Warren should STFU even more than usual.

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              yeah nothing to complain about in that one, Faletau has made it 'worse' if you could argue that was bad at all.

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              • TimT Tim

                Finally (!), it's 100% legal to tackle a player attempting a kick, so Warren should STFU even more than usual.

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                @Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                Finally (!), it's 100% legal to tackle a player attempting a kick, so Warren should STFU even more than usual.

                This!!!!

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Toddy I don't know.

                  I just remember Kaino coming from the opposite side to charge down a right-footed box kick from Murray but he never got there in time so ended up collecting Murray's feet after he had already kicked the ball.

                  I'm sure someone can make a gif of it to confirm.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                  @Toddy I don't know.

                  I just remember Kaino coming from the opposite side to charge down a right-footed box kick from Murray but he never got there in time so ended up collecting Murray's feet after he had already kicked the ball.

                  I'm sure someone can make a gif of it to confirm.

                  Making contact with the non kicking foot , the planted foot , at the time of kicking is a penalty in the NRL now , deemed dangerous ,

                  Be interesting to see if they do the same in union

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                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                    @Toddy I don't know.

                    I just remember Kaino coming from the opposite side to charge down a right-footed box kick from Murray but he never got there in time so ended up collecting Murray's feet after he had already kicked the ball.

                    I'm sure someone can make a gif of it to confirm.

                    Making contact with the non kicking foot , the planted foot , at the time of kicking is a penalty in the NRL now , deemed dangerous ,

                    Be interesting to see if they do the same in union

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                    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                    @Toddy I don't know.

                    I just remember Kaino coming from the opposite side to charge down a right-footed box kick from Murray but he never got there in time so ended up collecting Murray's feet after he had already kicked the ball.

                    I'm sure someone can make a gif of it to confirm.

                    Making contact with the non kicking foot , the planted foot , at the time of kicking is a penalty in the NRL now , deemed dangerous ,

                    Be interesting to see if they do the same in union

                    slightly different aims and actions between the two games though. In league you've generally got a guy with a 10m run up going flat out at the kicker, trying to pressure a mistake, and rarely trying to charge the ball (6 again!). Can't say I've seen a heap of injuries from charging kicks in rugby to require a rule tweak

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                      Yeah prob right , league you had guys cannoning in at the kickers legs ,

                      And usually the million dollar playmakers

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                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                        It shits me that BB even gets moved at all during a game. But if they're going to move him back at a stage of the game when he usually cuts loose then they might as well have him at 15. He's arguably the best back under the high ball in NZ and is an excellent last man defender. In fact the better tactic would be to start him at 15 and then move him to 10 when things open up a bit.

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                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                        In fact the better tactic would be to start him at 15 and then move him to 10 when things open up a bit.

                        Was interesting in the aftermatch interview with him and TJ, he said he doesn't mind moving form 10 to 15, but doesn't like moving from 15 to 10

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                          Had this been posted? Barnes thoughts on The Mouth of the Waikato.

                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/94115164/lions-tour-lions-coach-warren-gatlands-legacy-and-reputation-could-be-ripped-apart

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                            Agent Gatland trying to outdo agent Deans!

                            And jesus, Sexton for the captaincy? Just imagine.

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                              @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                              In fact the better tactic would be to start him at 15 and then move him to 10 when things open up a bit.

                              Was interesting in the aftermatch interview with him and TJ, he said he doesn't mind moving form 10 to 15, but doesn't like moving from 15 to 10

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                              @Darren-Nicholson said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                              @Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                              In fact the better tactic would be to start him at 15 and then move him to 10 when things open up a bit.

                              Was interesting in the aftermatch interview with him and TJ, he said he doesn't mind moving form 10 to 15, but doesn't like moving from 15 to 10

                              That is interesting. I guess the best thing is to keep him at 10 then 🙂

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                                Not read Gatland's comments, but Kaino has ploughed through Murray's standing leg. Mis-judged/timed rather than malicious, but dangerous all the same imo.

                                And the clown thing again? Kiwi press really need some new material.

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                                  Not read Gatland's comments, but Kaino has ploughed through Murray's standing leg. Mis-judged/timed rather than malicious, but dangerous all the same imo.

                                  And the clown thing again? Kiwi press really need some new material.

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                                  @Margin_Walker I think you mean Faletau has pushed Kaino through Murray's leg.

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                                  • M Margin_Walker

                                    Not read Gatland's comments, but Kaino has ploughed through Murray's standing leg. Mis-judged/timed rather than malicious, but dangerous all the same imo.

                                    And the clown thing again? Kiwi press really need some new material.

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                                    @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                                    Not read Gatland's comments, but Kaino has ploughed through Murray's standing leg. Mis-judged/timed rather than malicious, but dangerous all the same imo.

                                    And the clown thing again? Kiwi press really need some new material.

                                    What Bones said.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Margin_Walker I think you mean Faletau has pushed Kaino through Murray's leg.

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                                      @Bones

                                      Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

                                      https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

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                                        @Bones

                                        Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

                                        https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

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                                        @Margin_Walker Faletau not in the shot? Okaaaay....who's the guy in the red 8 shirt? No wonder the lions are complaining, obviously NZ are sending out randoms to pretend they're lions players and cheat to try and bring down the lions! Disgraceful.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Margin_Walker Faletau not in the shot? Okaaaay....who's the guy in the red 8 shirt? No wonder the lions are complaining, obviously NZ are sending out randoms to pretend they're lions players and cheat to try and bring down the lions! Disgraceful.

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                                          @Bones

                                          Not in the shot when the contact between him and Kaino took place.

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