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All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2

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  • M Margin_Walker

    @Bones

    Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

    https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

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    #72

    @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    @Bones

    Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

    https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

    That video is absolutely hilarious. Instead of tweeting a gif of the footage, he's filmed his Laptop with his phone, upright, to cut out half the screen and avoid showing Faletau putting a block on Kaino. Superb stuff.

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    • MiketheSnowM Offline
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      #73

      Best, Henderson, Lawes making Gatland think.

      There were calls for Halfpenny to be dropped from the bench to make way for Joesph. No fucking chance.

      North had his best game on tour but looked to hurt himself in his try attempt. Not done enough.

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      • M Margin_Walker

        @Bones

        Not in the shot when the contact between him and Kaino took place.

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        @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        @Bones

        Not in the shot when the contact between him and Kaino took place.

        Come on fulla

        Open the other eye.

        Faletau came from offside. Played Kaino without the ball. And you've got the shits with a bloke trying for a charge down?

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        • M Margin_Walker

          @mariner4life

          It's a forum, sometimes opinions on match incidents differ. I didn't raise it, it was being discussed, but I won't bother in future.

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          @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

          @mariner4life

          It's a forum, sometimes opinions on match incidents differ. I didn't raise it, it was being discussed, but I won't bother in future.

          Don't unless you have a justifiable point

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          • M Margin_Walker

            @mooshld

            Avoid the contact with Murray's leg, not Faletau

            Who said Lions lost because Murray got heat on Lions box kicks? They lost because the better team played them off the park

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            @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

            @mooshld

            Avoid the contact with Murray's leg, not Faletau

            Who said Lions lost because Murray got heat on Lions box kicks? They lost because the better team played them off the park

            Since when had contact with legs been fucking illegal?

            BTW your coach has certainly implied they lodt due to attempted charge downs

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            • No QuarterN No Quarter

              @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

              @Bones

              Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

              https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

              That video is absolutely hilarious. Instead of tweeting a gif of the footage, he's filmed his Laptop with his phone, upright, to cut out half the screen and avoid showing Faletau putting a block on Kaino. Superb stuff.

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              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

              @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

              @Bones

              Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

              https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

              That video is absolutely hilarious. Instead of tweeting a gif of the footage, he's filmed his Laptop with his phone, upright, to cut out half the screen and avoid showing Faletau putting a block on Kaino. Superb stuff.

              Look at his twitter feed, he's been called on the cropping but doubles down on his bullshit . Apparently he's some sort of journo in Ireland .

              https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_cantillon?lang=en

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              • jeggaJ jegga

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @Bones

                Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

                https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

                That video is absolutely hilarious. Instead of tweeting a gif of the footage, he's filmed his Laptop with his phone, upright, to cut out half the screen and avoid showing Faletau putting a block on Kaino. Superb stuff.

                Look at his twitter feed, he's been called on the cropping but doubles down on his bullshit . Apparently he's some sort of journo in Ireland .

                https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_cantillon?lang=en

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                #78

                @jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @Bones

                Nah, not really. Aware Faletau's not in this shot, but there was very little contact with him and Kaino is never going to reach the ball. No big deal, but it's on Kaino for me. Each to their own though.

                https://twitter.com/mike_cantillon/status/879333982596468736

                That video is absolutely hilarious. Instead of tweeting a gif of the footage, he's filmed his Laptop with his phone, upright, to cut out half the screen and avoid showing Faletau putting a block on Kaino. Superb stuff.

                Look at his twitter feed, he's been called on the cropping but doubles down on his bullshit . Apparently he's some sort of journo in Ireland .

                https://mobile.twitter.com/mike_cantillon?lang=en

                Sweet jesus he's in full meltdown mode. My preschooler would be proud of that.

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                  #79

                  Geech putting Nowell on the bench for the 2nd Test.

                  Are you fucking kidding me?

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    Geech putting Nowell on the bench for the 2nd Test.

                    Are you fucking kidding me?

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                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                    Geech putting Nowell on the bench for the 2nd Test.

                    Are you fucking kidding me?

                    Geech is a legend

                    He's allowed the occasional randomness

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      Geech putting Nowell on the bench for the 2nd Test.

                      Are you fucking kidding me?

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                      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                      Geech putting Nowell on the bench for the 2nd Test.

                      Are you fucking kidding me?

                      I fully support his selection. Actually he can start.

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                        No Quarter
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                        Selections are going to be interesting after the match today with Laumape and Jordie making a claim. Questions are: how badly do they want 1) Beauden at 10 and 2) two "fullbacks" in the back three?

                        If they want both of those then Jordie is a real shot at the 15 jumper.

                        Laumape made a big big claim for the bench spot. He's a fucking rock and could wreck havoc in the final 15 with some hard straight running in close.

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @Margin_Walker said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                          @mooshld

                          Avoid the contact with Murray's leg, not Faletau

                          Who said Lions lost because Murray got heat on Lions box kicks? They lost because the better team played them off the park

                          Since when had contact with legs been fucking illegal?

                          BTW your coach has certainly implied they lodt due to attempted charge downs

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                          @booboo

                          Where is he implying that they lost because of the attempted charge downs? Doesn't sound like a 'justifiable point' to me unless you have the quotes to back it up?

                          I don't even agree with Gatland (or the prick with the Twitter feed) about it being intentional targeting and have never suggested that I did. Talking purely about this incident which was dangerous imo, even with Faletau's involvement. JK even says he mis timed it.

                          "I didn't go in to tackle him. I rolled into his leg. What I was trying to do was… his swinging [right] foot, if you can disrupt that it's like an ankle tap so you can disrupt the kick. My timing was off and I rolled into his planted foot and that's what I believe happened. If that's clear enough."

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                            #84

                            Great work Hurricanes.

                            All Blacks just have to finish the job now and send the Lions home with a losing record.

                            Four wins would be a poor return.

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                              #85

                              After the Hurricanes match Gatland has, possibly for the first time in his career, a genuine dilemma (more so than the spelling of dilemma).

                              1
                              He has the right cattle to execute his one and only game plan.
                              Minor tweaks to the pack with Itoje starting with Kruis, AWJ on the bench.
                              Warburton to start with O'Mahoney on the bench

                              2
                              He needs to bolster his cattle to execute his one and only game plan.
                              Genuine selection conundrum for hooker - George, Owens, Best
                              Does Sinckler start?
                              Genuine selection conundrum at lock - Itoje and Lawes to start with Henderson on the bench? Kruis and AWJ dropping out altogether?
                              Genuine selection conundrum in the backrow - Warburton to start? Stander on the bench?
                              Keep the same 10 backs? Lose Halfpenny for Biggar or North or Seymour or Nowell?

                              3
                              Surprise us all and throw players like Tipuric into the mix to play a different game plan?

                              I would like to see

                              Vunipola, Best, Sinckler
                              Itoje, Lawes
                              O'Brien, Tipuric, Faletau

                              Webb, Farrell
                              Daly, Te'o, Davies, Watson
                              Williams

                              George, McGrath, Furlong
                              Henderson
                              Stander
                              Murray, Sexton
                              Halfpenny

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Margin_Walker well if Faletau hadn't pushed him he would have avoided Murray leg given the direction of the push was toward Murray

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                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                                @Margin_Walker well if Faletau hadn't pushed him he would have avoided Murray leg given the direction of the push was toward Murray

                                Or got it better 😉

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                                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                  After the Hurricanes match Gatland has, possibly for the first time in his career, a genuine dilemma (more so than the spelling of dilemma).

                                  1
                                  He has the right cattle to execute his one and only game plan.
                                  Minor tweaks to the pack with Itoje starting with Kruis, AWJ on the bench.
                                  Warburton to start with O'Mahoney on the bench

                                  2
                                  He needs to bolster his cattle to execute his one and only game plan.
                                  Genuine selection conundrum for hooker - George, Owens, Best
                                  Does Sinckler start?
                                  Genuine selection conundrum at lock - Itoje and Lawes to start with Henderson on the bench? Kruis and AWJ dropping out altogether?
                                  Genuine selection conundrum in the backrow - Warburton to start? Stander on the bench?
                                  Keep the same 10 backs? Lose Halfpenny for Biggar or North or Seymour or Nowell?

                                  3
                                  Surprise us all and throw players like Tipuric into the mix to play a different game plan?

                                  I would like to see

                                  Vunipola, Best, Sinckler
                                  Itoje, Lawes
                                  O'Brien, Tipuric, Faletau

                                  Webb, Farrell
                                  Daly, Te'o, Davies, Watson
                                  Williams

                                  George, McGrath, Furlong
                                  Henderson
                                  Stander
                                  Murray, Sexton
                                  Halfpenny

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                                  @MiketheSnow

                                  Would be good to see Tipuric and Itoje get a start. Would definitely help the linespeed close to the ruck. Former got through 80 minutes and 20 tackles today, so hard to see him being in the frame unfortunately.

                                  Would worry about Sinckler's scrummaging, especially combined with Lawes who isn't the strongest scrummaging lock, by all accounts. May be worth rolling the dice though.

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    After the Hurricanes match Gatland has, possibly for the first time in his career, a genuine dilemma (more so than the spelling of dilemma).

                                    1
                                    He has the right cattle to execute his one and only game plan.
                                    Minor tweaks to the pack with Itoje starting with Kruis, AWJ on the bench.
                                    Warburton to start with O'Mahoney on the bench

                                    2
                                    He needs to bolster his cattle to execute his one and only game plan.
                                    Genuine selection conundrum for hooker - George, Owens, Best
                                    Does Sinckler start?
                                    Genuine selection conundrum at lock - Itoje and Lawes to start with Henderson on the bench? Kruis and AWJ dropping out altogether?
                                    Genuine selection conundrum in the backrow - Warburton to start? Stander on the bench?
                                    Keep the same 10 backs? Lose Halfpenny for Biggar or North or Seymour or Nowell?

                                    3
                                    Surprise us all and throw players like Tipuric into the mix to play a different game plan?

                                    I would like to see

                                    Vunipola, Best, Sinckler
                                    Itoje, Lawes
                                    O'Brien, Tipuric, Faletau

                                    Webb, Farrell
                                    Daly, Te'o, Davies, Watson
                                    Williams

                                    George, McGrath, Furlong
                                    Henderson
                                    Stander
                                    Murray, Sexton
                                    Halfpenny

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                                    Catogrande
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                                    @MiketheSnow So you did 😁

                                    I like your squad too, although I'd swap North for Halfpenny. We have cover for fullback (Watson) and centre (Daly) and it won't be because of a missed penalty kick that we lose the game.

                                    It would be a brave call to leave Warburton out of the 23 altogether but I really would like to see Tipuric in the mix. Won't happen though.

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                                      @MiketheSnow interesting lineup. Tips and O'Brien starting together will up the pace and support play. Will provide a tough battle at the breakdown for sure.

                                      I like it, but it would be a massive call to drop Warburton.

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                                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                        @MiketheSnow So you did 😁

                                        I like your squad too, although I'd swap North for Halfpenny. We have cover for fullback (Watson) and centre (Daly) and it won't be because of a missed penalty kick that we lose the game.

                                        It would be a brave call to leave Warburton out of the 23 altogether but I really would like to see Tipuric in the mix. Won't happen though.

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                                        @Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                                        @MiketheSnow So you did 😁

                                        I like your squad too, although I'd swap North for Halfpenny. We have cover for fullback (Watson) and centre (Daly) and it won't be because of a missed penalty kick that we lose the game.

                                        It would be a brave call to leave Warburton out of the 23 altogether but I really would like to see Tipuric in the mix. Won't happen though.

                                        Maybe for the 3rd Test (rolling eyes)

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                                          Haven't read the match thread, but didn't get the impression Barrett played his way in. His defence at fullback is worryingly horrible at times - loves headbutting the turf. What the hell was he doing for the first try? Laidlaw is covered so he decides to dive across the back and take himself out of play.

                                          He's only young so I'm not really bagging him for that, decision making is a learned thing, but I fear he might get shown up badly another level up.

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