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All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2

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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

    Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

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    @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

    @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

    Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

    Which is sad if true. I thought the technique and the way Henderson drove into the ruck to clean out would've been fine if it wasn't for Joseph lifting the other leg of Barrett. Henderson's head as you would expect was down and didn't see what Joseph was doing.

    Just watching it again and it's strange to think what the hell Joseph was trying to do.

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

      @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

      Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

      If not selected I think it'll be more a case of him having done a 70 minute shift, not slapping him on the wrists.

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      @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

      @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

      @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

      Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

      If not selected I think it'll be more a case of him having done a 70 minute shift, not slapping him on the wrists.

      But the minutes played was part and parcel of Gatland's 2nd test thinking. Obvious when Lawes was pulled.

      Hopefully Henderson will get a chance in the dead rubber. 😉

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

        Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

        Which is sad if true. I thought the technique and the way Henderson drove into the ruck to clean out would've been fine if it wasn't for Joseph lifting the other leg of Barrett. Henderson's head as you would expect was down and didn't see what Joseph was doing.

        Just watching it again and it's strange to think what the hell Joseph was trying to do.

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        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

        @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

        Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

        Which is sad if true. I thought the technique and the way Henderson drove into the ruck to clean out would've been fine if it wasn't for Joseph lifting the other leg of Barrett. Henderson's head as you would expect was down and didn't see what Joseph was doing.

        Just watching it again and it's strange to think what the hell Joseph was trying to do.

        Yeah. Not Hendersons fault but just like that similar situation 12 years ago a freak coincidence of timing when two players went to do the same thing without noticing the other.

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          if you ignore the yellow card, that was the best performance by any lions lock in any game on tour i reckon.
          kruis does a lot of work, a lot of tackling, but lacks a bit of grunt. AWJ at his best is excellent, but he hasn't been there on tour. lawes i dunno, patchy.

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            Is it time yet?

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

              @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

              Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

              Which is sad if true. I thought the technique and the way Henderson drove into the ruck to clean out would've been fine if it wasn't for Joseph lifting the other leg of Barrett. Henderson's head as you would expect was down and didn't see what Joseph was doing.

              Just watching it again and it's strange to think what the hell Joseph was trying to do.

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              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

              @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

              @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

              @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

              Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

              Which is sad if true. I thought the technique and the way Henderson drove into the ruck to clean out would've been fine if it wasn't for Joseph lifting the other leg of Barrett. Henderson's head as you would expect was down and didn't see what Joseph was doing.

              Just watching it again and it's strange to think what the hell Joseph was trying to do.

              It sounds to me like you have a reasonable and common sense explanation.

              Personally I'm holding fast to my belief that Henderson is evil and deliberately set out to maim barrett. It's less intellectually challenging that way.

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

                Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

                Which is sad if true. I thought the technique and the way Henderson drove into the ruck to clean out would've been fine if it wasn't for Joseph lifting the other leg of Barrett. Henderson's head as you would expect was down and didn't see what Joseph was doing.

                Just watching it again and it's strange to think what the hell Joseph was trying to do.

                It sounds to me like you have a reasonable and common sense explanation.

                Personally I'm holding fast to my belief that Henderson is evil and deliberately set out to maim barrett. It's less intellectually challenging that way.

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                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                @Catogrande I think he's a better impact player at this stage and given the other lock options in the squad. After his outing on Tuesday, I'd be looking at Henderson to start. Reminded me of James Ryan the way he moved ball in hand.

                Henderson has been great and the type that the AB coaches would love to have in their squad. That said I really doubt gatland will use him. He seemed to have made up his mind it was all Hendersons fault against the Canes and will want to punish him.

                Which is sad if true. I thought the technique and the way Henderson drove into the ruck to clean out would've been fine if it wasn't for Joseph lifting the other leg of Barrett. Henderson's head as you would expect was down and didn't see what Joseph was doing.

                Just watching it again and it's strange to think what the hell Joseph was trying to do.

                It sounds to me like you have a reasonable and common sense explanation.

                Personally I'm holding fast to my belief that Henderson is evil and deliberately set out to maim barrett. It's less intellectually challenging that way.

                Are there any pubs in NZ with signs outside saying Henderson & Joseph are banned? That's the only way I see justice being served.

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                  All Blacks team to play the British and Irish Lions in the second test:

                  1. Israel Dagg 14. Waisake Naholo 13. Anton Lienert-Brown 12. Sonny Bill Williams 11. Rieko Ioane 10. Beauden Barrett 9. Aaron Smith 8. Kieran Read (c) 7. Sam Cane 6. Jerome Kaino 5. Sam Whitelock 4. Brodie Retallick 3. Owen Franks 2. Codie Taylor 1. Joe Moody

                  Reserves: Nathan Harris, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Scott Barrett, Ardie Savea, TJ Perenara, Aaron Cruden, Ngani Laumape

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                    Will Laumapes selection affect Gatlands plans or do you think he has already ditched the Sexton and Farrell idea?
                    Garland has his two strongest midfield defenders likely to start and Laumape will get to come on either against a change or a tiring combo.

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                      Good team, only changes were enforced ones. If they get the lineouts right this time I'm reasonably confident

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                        Awesome, like Laumape to the bench and hope Naholo continues the upward trend in form. IMO if they can build Laumape's distribution game like Noni's, watch out world.

                        Looking forward to seeing him and Barracuda paired on the EOYT...

                        One-two punch of him then Thompson will be knockout.

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                          i like the team ,

                          Shag going for the jugular .

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                            Now I'm foolishly tempting fate, but...

                            Win this weekend = open wound
                            Rest & rotate for 3rd test = add salt
                            Still win = a bit of vinegar for good measure

                            On the other hand, Lions win...and that 3rd test will be something else...

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                              Have to wonder what happens if a winger gets injured? BB to cover the back 3?

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                                Have to wonder what happens if a winger gets injured? BB to cover the back 3?

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                                @Darren-Nicholson Dagg to wing, BB to fullback, Cruden to 10.

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                                  Alb could probably cover wing if he had to , SBW has done it in the past as well. im talking emergencies there . Nigel Yalden said there were considerations for Lima to replace Cruden because they believe he is capable of playing back 3 which is interesting , they mustve gone against that.

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                                    SBW has certainly played wing before Didn't work out that well IIRC (Shoulder charge)

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                                      Have to wonder what happens if a winger gets injured? BB to cover the back 3?

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                                      @Darren-Nicholson said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

                                      Have to wonder what happens if a winger gets injured? BB to cover the back 3?

                                      It doesn't matter 😞

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                                        Given the amount of balls that will be in the air, I'm hoping that they've done some work with Naholo given he has a tendancy to carelessly play the man in the air.

                                        Like the team though!

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                                          Given the amount of balls that will be in the air, I'm hoping that they've done some work with Naholo given he has a tendancy to carelessly play the man in the air.

                                          Like the team though!

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                                          @taniwharugby his actual catching skills are pretty good , but has some history of interfering with the man when beaten ,

                                          Im sure they have worked on that

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