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Parker v ??

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    They do keep talking about Joe fighting within himself with these 'lesser' fighters. Ruiz was the real test and Joe looked poor at times in that fight. His natural tendency is to drop his hands, and while I guess all fighters do that when they get tired, it just paints a big target on your mush. Haven't seen anything to indicate Joe's D is improving so that makes me question Barry.

    While he's in good shape he still doesn't seem to have added much bulk over the last couple of years. I know they focus on his hand speed but if you aren't dropping hammers on fools how are you going to win fights?

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      @raznomore I'm losing confidence in Joe beating anyone quickly to be honest , his last 3 have gone the distance and hasn't looked like stopping them , it seems once the level of his opponents have gone up a bit , his power and timing Isnt there like it was previously against the earlier hacks that were back peddling

      But I don't have fears of him fighting Whyte , Wilder I do , unorthodox, but has genuine knockout power , and with joes suspect defence, I see that one as danger with those massive right hands .

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      @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

      @raznomore I'm losing confidence in Joe beating anyone quickly to be honest , his last 3 have gone the distance and hasn't looked like stopping them , it seems once the level of his opponents have gone up a bit , his power and timing Isnt there like it was previously against the earlier hacks that were back peddling

      But I don't have fears of him fighting Whyte , Wilder I do , unorthodox, but has genuine knockout power , and with joes suspect defence, I see that one as danger with those massive right hands .

      Whyte has shocking defense. He is all flailing arms and hay-makers. It suits Parker's style in my opinion. When fighters have been disciplined in their approach as Takim, Ruiz and Conaju have been Parker has struggled. Whyte is not a smart fighter nor is he disciplined. He's an empty the tank fighter. I think Joe hold up well and Whyte would get caught and KO'd.

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        @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

        @raznomore I'm losing confidence in Joe beating anyone quickly to be honest , his last 3 have gone the distance and hasn't looked like stopping them , it seems once the level of his opponents have gone up a bit , his power and timing Isnt there like it was previously against the earlier hacks that were back peddling

        But I don't have fears of him fighting Whyte , Wilder I do , unorthodox, but has genuine knockout power , and with joes suspect defence, I see that one as danger with those massive right hands .

        Whyte has shocking defense. He is all flailing arms and hay-makers. It suits Parker's style in my opinion. When fighters have been disciplined in their approach as Takim, Ruiz and Conaju have been Parker has struggled. Whyte is not a smart fighter nor is he disciplined. He's an empty the tank fighter. I think Joe hold up well and Whyte would get caught and KO'd.

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        @raznomore said in Parker v ??:

        @kiwiinmelb said in Parker v ??:

        @raznomore I'm losing confidence in Joe beating anyone quickly to be honest , his last 3 have gone the distance and hasn't looked like stopping them , it seems once the level of his opponents have gone up a bit , his power and timing Isnt there like it was previously against the earlier hacks that were back peddling

        But I don't have fears of him fighting Whyte , Wilder I do , unorthodox, but has genuine knockout power , and with joes suspect defence, I see that one as danger with those massive right hands .

        Whyte has shocking defense. He is all flailing arms and hay-makers. It suits Parker's style in my opinion. When fighters have been disciplined in their approach as Takim, Ruiz and Conaju have been Parker has struggled. Whyte is not a smart fighter nor is he disciplined. He's an empty the tank fighter. I think Joe hold up well and Whyte would get caught and KO'd.

        Yup have to agree there. He's a bit of a wannabe Dereck Chisora. I'd back JP to win comfortably on the cards if the scoring is fair. Eddie Hearn's fighters usually get dodgy decisions.

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          The fight against Hughie Fury has to be the next contest for JP. With the war of words between Higgins and Warren, the best suggestion I've seen is stage that fight in the US with the Arum connection. That might mean taking less money in the short-term but it does have some advantages, notably forcing Fury to fight outside the UK and without the old man as his trainer.

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            Starting to look like Whyte could well be Joseph's next opponent if his management have anything to do with it ,
            Eddie Hearn who manages bellew and Whyte , seems keener to match bellew in a rematch with haye for financial reasons . And get Whyte to challenge Parker . I guess so they both have big fights to look forward to .
            But haye is non commital at this stage , and bellew seems like he is trying to keep both options open .

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              Fury still has that failed drugs test to deal with? Plus I had a lol at the Fury's being out on the piss at a club - maybe it was just a wee back niggle aye! nothing a bit of blow won't sort out... hold on!!

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                Fury still has that failed drugs test to deal with? Plus I had a lol at the Fury's being out on the piss at a club - maybe it was just a wee back niggle aye! nothing a bit of blow won't sort out... hold on!!

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                @Paekakboyz As one of the comments said, it wasn't a back injury but a lack of spine.

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                  @Paekakboyz As one of the comments said, it wasn't a back injury but a lack of spine.

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                  @Bovidae

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                    Not Parker news , but boxing news ,
                    Welterweight title fight tomorrow ( sunday ) morning , Kell Brook v Errol Spence , this is a great match up ,
                    Brook the experienced champ from England , undefeated at welterweight , the one loss when moved up 2 weight divisions to fight triple G
                    Spence the young black fighter from america heralded as the next big thing ,undefeated , been knocking out all of his opponents , but this is his first big test ,
                    30,000 sold out Sheffield , England
                    and bonus for those living in Aus , its on live , free to air on foxtel , 5am - 9am

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                      Bit of boxing news , parker fans will be used to Jeff Horn , aussie fighter , managed by Duco , fought on Joes undercards quite a few times ,

                      Pulled off possibly the boxing upset of the year today beating PacMan in a controversial points decision,

                      I watched it on a stream , stream was dropping in a and out a bit , but saw most of it ,

                      I thought Manny did enough to win , but in saying that Horn was taking it to him and fought a courageous fight ,

                      WBO Welterweight champion

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                        That is massive. I know Pacman is past his best, but I thought he'd beat Horn tidily. Well done that man! Great scalp!

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                          There was a massive crowd there at Suncorp , great atmosphere ,

                          The aussie government put up millions to get Manny out ,

                          Bob Arum seems to be all over Horn now, talking about some big fights in America for him

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                            I see ESPN are calling the Horn decision suspect.

                            There is some Parker news. The money better be very good for Duco to bend over for the Furys.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/94291934/joseph-parkers-promoter-buries-the-hatchet-with-team-fury-to-reschedule-heavyweight-title-fight

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                              Bit of boxing news , parker fans will be used to Jeff Horn , aussie fighter , managed by Duco , fought on Joes undercards quite a few times ,

                              Pulled off possibly the boxing upset of the year today beating PacMan in a controversial points decision,

                              I watched it on a stream , stream was dropping in a and out a bit , but saw most of it ,

                              I thought Manny did enough to win , but in saying that Horn was taking it to him and fought a courageous fight ,

                              WBO Welterweight champion

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                              @kiwiinmelb
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                              From the article on Deadspin:
                              http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/large-tub-of-potato-salad-beats-manny-pacquiao-is-new-1796583495

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                                I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

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                                  I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

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                                  @African-Monkey said in Parker v ??:

                                  I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

                                  No its not ,

                                  I think Manny needs to hang them up , 8 division champion , nothing to prove now , its time for the younger guys,

                                  if he gets in the ring with the likes of Thurman or Spence he will probably get knocked out

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                                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                                    Bit of boxing news , parker fans will be used to Jeff Horn , aussie fighter , managed by Duco , fought on Joes undercards quite a few times ,

                                    Pulled off possibly the boxing upset of the year today beating PacMan in a controversial points decision,

                                    I watched it on a stream , stream was dropping in a and out a bit , but saw most of it ,

                                    I thought Manny did enough to win , but in saying that Horn was taking it to him and fought a courageous fight ,

                                    WBO Welterweight champion

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                                    I watched the whole fight and backed horn pretty heavily on the TAB. Thought he put up a great effort but didnt expect him to get the decision at the end of it all. Pretty suspect IMHO as well but big ups to Horn for hanging in there and coming back so well after the ninth.

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                                      I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

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                                      @African-Monkey said in Parker v ??:

                                      I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

                                      I think it says something when people with a credible investment in the sport publicly state they think the judges got it badly wrong.

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                                        @African-Monkey said in Parker v ??:

                                        I feel like Teddy Atlas did the punch stats, fuck he's a Pacquiao loving piston wristed gibbon. It's certainly not the robbery some people are making it out to be.

                                        No its not ,

                                        I think Manny needs to hang them up , 8 division champion , nothing to prove now , its time for the younger guys,

                                        if he gets in the ring with the likes of Thurman or Spence he will probably get knocked out

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                                          and also worth noting ,

                                          Lonergan may have his money making PPV earner now ,

                                          and its not Parker after all , the welterweight division is very competitive with many options for Horn

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