All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
I know BOD is pasty white, but it's a bit harsh to call him daylight.
@mimic said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
I know BOD is pasty white, but it's a bit harsh to call him daylight.
My bad. Further illustrates how far behind the best of the era Tana was though.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
although TBF, Goodhue wasn't named in the original squad was he, only there in the look and learn capacity I thought, and just kept there when Crotty injured himself, but still not 'called into the squad'
They named a squad for the Lions tour and they named an injury cover list: midfielder Jack Goodhue, hooker Liam Coltman and loose forwards Matt Todd, Vaea Fifita and Akira Ioane. Goodhue was there as injury cover for Ryan Crotty, who was at the time of the team naming not yet 100%. The fact that they didn't use him for the second test after Crotty had pulled his hamstring was because there were already 4 midfielders in the squad.
Now, with SBW ruled out, there are only 3 remaining midfielders in the squad. So they call in Fekitoa. That can IMO mean a few things.
- They realise that despite Goodhue's potential (which seems bigger than Fekitoa's), they need experience at this stage, and that's what Fekitoa offers (either as a starter or from the bench).
- It can also mean that they see Goodhue only (at this stage) as a cover for 13 and not 12. SBW only plays 12 (not 13), so that's what they've looked to replace (either by moving ALB or by starting Laumape or Fekitoa). Fekitoa is better at 13, but he can cover both.
- Or the injury cover list was just an excuse to bring together a larger squad and Goodhue (and Akira) were indeed (and in the first place) included to "look and learn". I seriously doubt this, because they could also have included these players openly as apprentices, as they have done in the past.
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Considering the Lions have been tearing us up out wide i hope it fucking pours down
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@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
The counter to that comment is Reuben Thorne or Todd Blackadder
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
Matt Burke described him as the most intimidating back he played against . Saw it in an interview .
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@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
Snakey and Nonu far superior midfielders than Tana. Without any effort of thinking about it, Robertson, Bunce, Iremia, all better also.
Tana was a fantastic winger and I'd have him in my top 3-4 wingers, right up there with Lomu, Rok, Goldie
Tana was captain for two seasons and provided good leadership.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
Snakey and Nonu far superior midfielders than Tana. Without any effort of thinking about it, Robertson, Bunce, Iremia, all better also.
Tana was a fantastic winger and I'd have him in my top 3-4 wingers, right up there with Lomu, Rok, Goldie
Tana was captain for two seasons and provided good leadership.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
Snakey and Nonu far superior midfielders than Tana. Without any effort of thinking about it, Robertson, Bunce, Iremia, all better also.
Tana was a fantastic winger and I'd have him in my top 3-4 wingers, right up there with Lomu, Rok, Goldie
Tana was captain for two seasons and provided good leadership.
Sheesh, are all you Cantabs on the troll at the moment?
I can handle you personally rating any of those players aside from Ieremia over Tana (even with the midfield widening from centre to include Ma'a) but Tana was easily up with those guys when playing as a centre.
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@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day
Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.
Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.
https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html
@akan004 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day
Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.
Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.
https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html
Not any more they are not...
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day
Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.
Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.
https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html
Not any more they are not...
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@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
The counter to that comment is Reuben Thorne or Todd Blackadder
@Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
The counter to that comment is Reuben Thorne or Todd Blackadder
Good point ( mainly in Blackadders case, Thorne got selected by four different AB coaches after all ) I guess but he went from being a fantastic winger to being a fantastic centre. That's undeniable.
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http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/weather-forecasts/auckland
Usually pretty accurate.
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http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/weather-forecasts/auckland
Usually pretty accurate.
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/weather-forecasts/auckland
Usually pretty accurate.
I'll take 10% chance of rain
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/weather-forecasts/auckland
Usually pretty accurate.
I'll take 10% chance of rain
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A week is a long time. Let us pray.... seriously though we will be in a totally different headspace this weekend. We played a man down, our talismanic first five had a bad day kicking, they outscored us in tries and we still almost won. We have much room for improvement
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@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.
Weirdly I'm not confident.
51-49 in favour of the good guys.
Not used to uncertainty...
They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off
@canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.
Weirdly I'm not confident.
51-49 in favour of the good guys.
Not used to uncertainty...
They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off
That's my assessment of chances of winning not a score prediction
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@canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.
Weirdly I'm not confident.
51-49 in favour of the good guys.
Not used to uncertainty...
They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off
That's my assessment of chances of winning not a score prediction
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.
Weirdly I'm not confident.
51-49 in favour of the good guys.
Not used to uncertainty...
They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off
That's my assessment of chances of winning not a score prediction
Still generous on their part
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@Stargazer some comments in the media that Laumape was found out on defence...so it could be that they don't see him as starter. Would take a bit of a review to work that out.
@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Stargazer some comments in the media that Laumape was found out on defence...so it could be that they don't see him as starter. Would take a bit of a review to work that out.
That was "analysis" from Will Greenwood.
The media guys are fans just like us. Any influence they think they can exert they will.
He thinks if he can put pressure on Laumape by putting out that kind of bullshit he will, hoping that Laumape reads it and gets in his head that he was "found out" that he believes it.
I was listening this arvo on the web to Devlin talking to Chris Jones who was desparately trying to put the story out there that the ABs are under soooooo much pressure that they'll be hated forever ... jeez it wasn't even subtle.
The media are just as much trying to i nfluence the officials as we are.
