All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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Interesting article on the 42 about Poite and scrums, and why this dude reckons McGrath should play instead of Vunipola.
Scroll past the first few paragraphs of chippy resentment re: selection or treatment of Irish legends within the Lions context. Then it gets interesting.
@Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Interesting article on the 42 about Poite and scrums, and why this dude reckons McGrath should play instead of Vunipola.
Scroll past the first few paragraphs of chippy resentment re: selection or treatment of Irish legends within the Lions context. Then it gets interesting.
Here's the first three 'chippy resentment' paragraphs:
HE’S HARDLY AVERSE to uproarious curveballs when it comes to team selection, but Warren Gatland would be wise to stick as opposed to twist when it comes to Saturday’s potentially monumental third Test with New Zealand at Eden Park.
Gatland and the Lions arrive at a similar juncture as they did four years ago with the series tied at one apiece, but on this occasion the momentum travels in overhead luggage with the tourists as opposed to the hosts, as both sides ascend New Zealand’s North Island in search of immortality (we presume, by now, you’ve heard it beckons).
Last weekend’s victory dictates that neither the Lions’ starting XV nor matchday squad require a major reshuffle. Gatland is not the head coach who needs to make a ‘statement’ selection call, and so the seemingly inexplicable, unceremonious quelling of a major name remains unlikely ahead of his announcement in the wee hours of Thursday morning Irish time. There will likely be no Sextongate to follow 2013’s Brian O’Driscoll saga, and it’s unlikely Sam Warburton will go the way of fellow Test captain Peter O’Mahony after a solid outing in Wellington. The back three is now settled and reasonably productive, the centres combined with Sexton are a force, and Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine.".???? Did I miss some seething resentment?
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@junior probably a big reason why they have brought Fekitoa back into the fray. He and ALB have a combination and I quite like ALB defending at 12 and Fekitoa is a genuine centre.
Laumape is an impact option at this stage.
I'm not sure of the answer, but how can we keep Barrett at 1st 5 longer? I know this might set Nepia and Crucial's knight in shining armour alerts off, and it's not meant to be a slight on Cruden, but I prefer Barrett to be at 10 in both attack and defence. Sure he didn't have a great test last weekend, but I felt we lost shape when he shifted.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@junior probably a big reason why they have brought Fekitoa back into the fray. He and ALB have a combination and I quite like ALB defending at 12 and Fekitoa is a genuine centre.
Laumape is an impact option at this stage.
I'm not sure of the answer, but how can we keep Barrett at 1st 5 longer? I know this might set Nepia and Crucial's knight in shining armour alerts off, and it's not meant to be a slight on Cruden, but I prefer Barrett to be at 10 in both attack and defence. Sure he didn't have a great test last weekend, but I felt we lost shape when he shifted.
Hence the ABs wanting Dmac to be a success at 10 , not necessarily him in isolation , but someone to be a 10 utility on the bench , that can come on somewhere else and we only move BB if injured .
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@Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Interesting article on the 42 about Poite and scrums, and why this dude reckons McGrath should play instead of Vunipola.
Scroll past the first few paragraphs of chippy resentment re: selection or treatment of Irish legends within the Lions context. Then it gets interesting.
Here's the first three 'chippy resentment' paragraphs:
HE’S HARDLY AVERSE to uproarious curveballs when it comes to team selection, but Warren Gatland would be wise to stick as opposed to twist when it comes to Saturday’s potentially monumental third Test with New Zealand at Eden Park.
Gatland and the Lions arrive at a similar juncture as they did four years ago with the series tied at one apiece, but on this occasion the momentum travels in overhead luggage with the tourists as opposed to the hosts, as both sides ascend New Zealand’s North Island in search of immortality (we presume, by now, you’ve heard it beckons).
Last weekend’s victory dictates that neither the Lions’ starting XV nor matchday squad require a major reshuffle. Gatland is not the head coach who needs to make a ‘statement’ selection call, and so the seemingly inexplicable, unceremonious quelling of a major name remains unlikely ahead of his announcement in the wee hours of Thursday morning Irish time. There will likely be no Sextongate to follow 2013’s Brian O’Driscoll saga, and it’s unlikely Sam Warburton will go the way of fellow Test captain Peter O’Mahony after a solid outing in Wellington. The back three is now settled and reasonably productive, the centres combined with Sexton are a force, and Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine.".???? Did I miss some seething resentment?
@Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Interesting article on the 42 about Poite and scrums, and why this dude reckons McGrath should play instead of Vunipola.
Scroll past the first few paragraphs of chippy resentment re: selection or treatment of Irish legends within the Lions context. Then it gets interesting.
Here's the first three 'chippy resentment' paragraphs:
HE’S HARDLY AVERSE to uproarious curveballs when it comes to team selection, but Warren Gatland would be wise to stick as opposed to twist when it comes to Saturday’s potentially monumental third Test with New Zealand at Eden Park.
Gatland and the Lions arrive at a similar juncture as they did four years ago with the series tied at one apiece, but on this occasion the momentum travels in overhead luggage with the tourists as opposed to the hosts, as both sides ascend New Zealand’s North Island in search of immortality (we presume, by now, you’ve heard it beckons).
Last weekend’s victory dictates that neither the Lions’ starting XV nor matchday squad require a major reshuffle. Gatland is not the head coach who needs to make a ‘statement’ selection call, and so the seemingly inexplicable, unceremonious quelling of a major name remains unlikely ahead of his announcement in the wee hours of Thursday morning Irish time. There will likely be no Sextongate to follow 2013’s Brian O’Driscoll saga, and it’s unlikely Sam Warburton will go the way of fellow Test captain Peter O’Mahony after a solid outing in Wellington. The b****ack three is now settled and reasonably productive, the centres combined with Sexton are a force, and Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine.".???? Did I miss some seething resentment?
Clearly!
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@Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Interesting article on the 42 about Poite and scrums, and why this dude reckons McGrath should play instead of Vunipola.
Scroll past the first few paragraphs of chippy resentment re: selection or treatment of Irish legends within the Lions context. Then it gets interesting.
Here's the first three 'chippy resentment' paragraphs:
HE’S HARDLY AVERSE to uproarious curveballs when it comes to team selection, but Warren Gatland would be wise to stick as opposed to twist when it comes to Saturday’s potentially monumental third Test with New Zealand at Eden Park.
Gatland and the Lions arrive at a similar juncture as they did four years ago with the series tied at one apiece, but on this occasion the momentum travels in overhead luggage with the tourists as opposed to the hosts, as both sides ascend New Zealand’s North Island in search of immortality (we presume, by now, you’ve heard it beckons).
Last weekend’s victory dictates that neither the Lions’ starting XV nor matchday squad require a major reshuffle. Gatland is not the head coach who needs to make a ‘statement’ selection call, and so the seemingly inexplicable, unceremonious quelling of a major name remains unlikely ahead of his announcement in the wee hours of Thursday morning Irish time. There will likely be no Sextongate to follow 2013’s Brian O’Driscoll saga, and it’s unlikely Sam Warburton will go the way of fellow Test captain Peter O’Mahony after a solid outing in Wellington. The back three is now settled and reasonably productive, the centres combined with Sexton are a force, and Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine.".???? Did I miss some seething resentment?
@Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Interesting article on the 42 about Poite and scrums, and why this dude reckons McGrath should play instead of Vunipola.
Scroll past the first few paragraphs of chippy resentment re: selection or treatment of Irish legends within the Lions context. Then it gets interesting.
Here's the first three 'chippy resentment' paragraphs:
HE’S HARDLY AVERSE to uproarious curveballs when it comes to team selection, but Warren Gatland would be wise to stick as opposed to twist when it comes to Saturday’s potentially monumental third Test with New Zealand at Eden Park.
Gatland and the Lions arrive at a similar juncture as they did four years ago with the series tied at one apiece, but on this occasion the momentum travels in overhead luggage with the tourists as opposed to the hosts, as both sides ascend New Zealand’s North Island in search of immortality (we presume, by now, you’ve heard it beckons).
Last weekend’s victory dictates that neither the Lions’ starting XV nor matchday squad require a major reshuffle. Gatland is not the head coach who needs to make a ‘statement’ selection call, and so the seemingly inexplicable, unceremonious quelling of a major name remains unlikely ahead of his announcement in the wee hours of Thursday morning Irish time. There will likely be no Sextongate to follow 2013’s Brian O’Driscoll saga, and it’s unlikely Sam Warburton will go the way of fellow Test captain Peter O’Mahony after a solid outing in Wellington. The back three is now settled and reasonably productive, the centres combined with Sexton are a force, and Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine.".???? Did I miss some seething resentment?
Not seething, chippy.
Yes, you've missed it.
In an article about merits of McGrath v Mako when the ref is Poite. He's filled up the first 3 paragraphs with references to previous inexplicable, unceremonious sagas of Irishmen being dropped.
Some of my fellow readers may have given up at that point without my helpful warning, and missed an interesting article.
My good deed of the day is done.
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@Stargazer There's only one match left. And he wasn't in the selection frame.
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@Stargazer There's only one match left. And he wasn't in the selection frame.
@antipodean yeah I found it odd that they made the announcement about it.
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@Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Interesting article on the 42 about Poite and scrums, and why this dude reckons McGrath should play instead of Vunipola.
Scroll past the first few paragraphs of chippy resentment re: selection or treatment of Irish legends within the Lions context. Then it gets interesting.
Here's the first three 'chippy resentment' paragraphs:
HE’S HARDLY AVERSE to uproarious curveballs when it comes to team selection, but Warren Gatland would be wise to stick as opposed to twist when it comes to Saturday’s potentially monumental third Test with New Zealand at Eden Park.
Gatland and the Lions arrive at a similar juncture as they did four years ago with the series tied at one apiece, but on this occasion the momentum travels in overhead luggage with the tourists as opposed to the hosts, as both sides ascend New Zealand’s North Island in search of immortality (we presume, by now, you’ve heard it beckons).
Last weekend’s victory dictates that neither the Lions’ starting XV nor matchday squad require a major reshuffle. Gatland is not the head coach who needs to make a ‘statement’ selection call, and so the seemingly inexplicable, unceremonious quelling of a major name remains unlikely ahead of his announcement in the wee hours of Thursday morning Irish time. There will likely be no Sextongate to follow 2013’s Brian O’Driscoll saga, and it’s unlikely Sam Warburton will go the way of fellow Test captain Peter O’Mahony after a solid outing in Wellington. The back three is now settled and reasonably productive, the centres combined with Sexton are a force, and Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine.".???? Did I miss some seething resentment?
@Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine
utter bullshit
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@Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine
utter bullshit
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine
utter bullshit
Agreed. He was outplayed by Smith in the second test.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine
utter bullshit
Agreed. He was outplayed by Smith in the second test.
@antipodean Clive Woodward reckons subbing Smith was the turning point for us in the 2nd test, this along with subbing Kaino off were the bits he felt Hansen & Co got wrong.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine
utter bullshit
Agreed. He was outplayed by Smith in the second test.
@antipodean said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Agreed. He was outplayed by Smith in the second test.
But Smith isn't Irish.
I've enjoyed watching some of the youtube content from the42 but it's obviously very Irish-centric.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
When Payne said pre-tour he wanted to provide a headache for the selectors, this probably wasn't what he had in mind...
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The big talking point tomorrow morning could well be j Barrett at 15 ,
That's what nige yaldan is saying
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The big talking point tomorrow morning could well be j Barrett at 15 ,
That's what nige yaldan is saying
@kiwiinmelb if thats the case, is it Ioane that drops out and Naholo moves to LW?
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@kiwiinmelb if thats the case, is it Ioane that drops out and Naholo moves to LW?
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@kiwiinmelb if thats the case, is it Ioane that drops out and Naholo moves to LW?
He didn't mention that bit , my guess would be dagg moving back to 14 for less disruption , which would be naholo gone I would think .
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@kiwiinmelb if thats the case, is it Ioane that drops out and Naholo moves to LW?
@taniwharugby He also mentioned that Julian Savea could be back in and the midfield will be ALB/Laumape.
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@antipodean Clive Woodward reckons subbing Smith was the turning point for us in the 2nd test, this along with subbing Kaino off were the bits he felt Hansen & Co got wrong.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@antipodean Clive Woodward reckons subbing Smith was the turning point for us in the 2nd test, this along with subbing Kaino off were the bits he felt Hansen & Co got wrong.
He's right. Smith's kicking and the way he was getting our under-manned pack around the park was great - especially on a night where Barrett was not going as well as he could.
TJ came on, started throwing bad passes to our forwards, who then got smashed backwards, we lost shape, lost territory and - as noted earlier - he messed up defensively.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@antipodean Clive Woodward reckons subbing Smith was the turning point for us in the 2nd test, this along with subbing Kaino off were the bits he felt Hansen & Co got wrong.
He's right. Smith's kicking and the way he was getting our under-manned pack around the park was great - especially on a night where Barrett was not going as well as he could.
TJ came on, started throwing bad passes to our forwards, who then got smashed backwards, we lost shape, lost territory and - as noted earlier - he messed up defensively.
@junior yep, although easy call to make with hindsight, given the impact TJ usually makes and the form he has been in.
