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All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3

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    @Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    Interesting article on the 42 about Poite and scrums, and why this dude reckons McGrath should play instead of Vunipola.

    Scroll past the first few paragraphs of chippy resentment re: selection or treatment of Irish legends within the Lions context. Then it gets interesting.

    http://www.the42.ie/lions-2-3477971-Jul2017/

    Here's the first three 'chippy resentment' paragraphs:

    HE’S HARDLY AVERSE to uproarious curveballs when it comes to team selection, but Warren Gatland would be wise to stick as opposed to twist when it comes to Saturday’s potentially monumental third Test with New Zealand at Eden Park.
    Gatland and the Lions arrive at a similar juncture as they did four years ago with the series tied at one apiece, but on this occasion the momentum travels in overhead luggage with the tourists as opposed to the hosts, as both sides ascend New Zealand’s North Island in search of immortality (we presume, by now, you’ve heard it beckons).
    Last weekend’s victory dictates that neither the Lions’ starting XV nor matchday squad require a major reshuffle. Gatland is not the head coach who needs to make a ‘statement’ selection call, and so the seemingly inexplicable, unceremonious quelling of a major name remains unlikely ahead of his announcement in the wee hours of Thursday morning Irish time. There will likely be no Sextongate to follow 2013’s Brian O’Driscoll saga, and it’s unlikely Sam Warburton will go the way of fellow Test captain Peter O’Mahony after a solid outing in Wellington. The back three is now settled and reasonably productive, the centres combined with Sexton are a force, and Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine."

    .???? Did I miss some seething resentment?

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    @Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine

    utter bullshit

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

      Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine

      utter bullshit

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

      @Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

      Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine

      utter bullshit

      Agreed. He was outplayed by Smith in the second test.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

        @Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

        Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine

        utter bullshit

        Agreed. He was outplayed by Smith in the second test.

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        @antipodean Clive Woodward reckons subbing Smith was the turning point for us in the 2nd test, this along with subbing Kaino off were the bits he felt Hansen & Co got wrong.

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          For this match - a literal one-off - like a World Cup Final - no competition points at stake, no bonus points on offer - drop goals (plural) surely have to be a consideration.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

            @Pot-Hale said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

            Conor Murray has once more distanced himself from the chasing pack as the world’s finest nine

            utter bullshit

            Agreed. He was outplayed by Smith in the second test.

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            @antipodean said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

            Agreed. He was outplayed by Smith in the second test.

            But Smith isn't Irish.

            I've enjoyed watching some of the youtube content from the42 but it's obviously very Irish-centric.

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              https://twitter.com/lionsofficial/status/882359091691216896

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              @Stargazer said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

              https://twitter.com/lionsofficial/status/882359091691216896

              When Payne said pre-tour he wanted to provide a headache for the selectors, this probably wasn't what he had in mind...

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                The big talking point tomorrow morning could well be j Barrett at 15 ,

                That's what nige yaldan is saying

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                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                  The big talking point tomorrow morning could well be j Barrett at 15 ,

                  That's what nige yaldan is saying

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                  @kiwiinmelb if thats the case, is it Ioane that drops out and Naholo moves to LW?

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @kiwiinmelb if thats the case, is it Ioane that drops out and Naholo moves to LW?

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                    @kiwiinmelb if thats the case, is it Ioane that drops out and Naholo moves to LW?

                    He didn't mention that bit , my guess would be dagg moving back to 14 for less disruption , which would be naholo gone I would think .

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @kiwiinmelb if thats the case, is it Ioane that drops out and Naholo moves to LW?

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                      @taniwharugby He also mentioned that Julian Savea could be back in and the midfield will be ALB/Laumape.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @antipodean Clive Woodward reckons subbing Smith was the turning point for us in the 2nd test, this along with subbing Kaino off were the bits he felt Hansen & Co got wrong.

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                        @antipodean Clive Woodward reckons subbing Smith was the turning point for us in the 2nd test, this along with subbing Kaino off were the bits he felt Hansen & Co got wrong.

                        He's right. Smith's kicking and the way he was getting our under-manned pack around the park was great - especially on a night where Barrett was not going as well as he could.

                        TJ came on, started throwing bad passes to our forwards, who then got smashed backwards, we lost shape, lost territory and - as noted earlier - he messed up defensively.

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                        • juniorJ junior

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                          @antipodean Clive Woodward reckons subbing Smith was the turning point for us in the 2nd test, this along with subbing Kaino off were the bits he felt Hansen & Co got wrong.

                          He's right. Smith's kicking and the way he was getting our under-manned pack around the park was great - especially on a night where Barrett was not going as well as he could.

                          TJ came on, started throwing bad passes to our forwards, who then got smashed backwards, we lost shape, lost territory and - as noted earlier - he messed up defensively.

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                          @junior yep, although easy call to make with hindsight, given the impact TJ usually makes and the form he has been in.

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                          • No QuarterN No Quarter

                            @Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            “There’s been a bit of edge there,” said Kaino, who is so worked up that he had to be told to cool it in the team’s training session on Tuesday morning.

                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/jul/04/all-blacks-lions-angry-second-test-wellington-rugby-union

                            Assume SBW was on the receiveing end of a lot of Kaino's "anger".

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                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            @Tim said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                            “There’s been a bit of edge there,” said Kaino, who is so worked up that he had to be told to cool it in the team’s training session on Tuesday morning.

                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/jul/04/all-blacks-lions-angry-second-test-wellington-rugby-union

                            Hoping SBW was on the receiveing end of a lot of Kaino's "anger".

                            Edited that a bit.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              Off topic I know but he's a legend so carry on...

                              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11886111

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                              @canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                              Off topic I know but he's a legend so carry on...

                              http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11886111

                              How the hell can you play two games in a weekend and still resemble the Kung Fu Panda in silhouette?

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                                @canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                Off topic I know but he's a legend so carry on...

                                http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11886111

                                How the hell can you play two games in a weekend and still resemble the Kung Fu Panda in silhouette?

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                                @jegga Kung Fu Chicken....?

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                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  Off topic I know but he's a legend so carry on...

                                  http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11886111

                                  How the hell can you play two games in a weekend and still resemble the Kung Fu Panda in silhouette?

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                                  @jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                  Off topic I know but he's a legend so carry on...

                                  How the hell can you play two games in a weekend and still resemble the Kung Fu Panda in silhouette?

                                  I used to go to the same gym as Piri and Neemia. It was definitely no surprise that they were two players who would always struggle with fitness. Was always frustrating watching them muck around, and to a certain extent, waste some of the talent that they had.

                                  Was a stark contrast between those two and Tana and Rodders.

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                                  • ToddyT Toddy

                                    @jegga said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                    Off topic I know but he's a legend so carry on...

                                    How the hell can you play two games in a weekend and still resemble the Kung Fu Panda in silhouette?

                                    I used to go to the same gym as Piri and Neemia. It was definitely no surprise that they were two players who would always struggle with fitness. Was always frustrating watching them muck around, and to a certain extent, waste some of the talent that they had.

                                    Was a stark contrast between those two and Tana and Rodders.

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                                    @Toddy and yet it seems Tialata is now a bit of a power lifter. Or just a beast in the gym.

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                                    • RapidoR Rapido

                                      I don't want to click.

                                      Giving the herald a miss at the moment.

                                      Better people make better editors.

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                                      @Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                      I don't want to click.

                                      Giving the herald a miss at the moment.

                                      Better people make better editors.

                                      You were wise not to. That piece did a disservice to NZ in my opinion. Made them lookalike whiney losers. Boo-hoo it's not fair sort of thing. The actual quotes from any players were fine, it was the "journalism" around it that stank the place out.

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                                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                        @Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        I don't want to click.

                                        Giving the herald a miss at the moment.

                                        Better people make better editors.

                                        You were wise not to. That piece did a disservice to NZ in my opinion. Made them lookalike whiney losers. Boo-hoo it's not fair sort of thing. The actual quotes from any players were fine, it was the "journalism" around it that stank the place out.

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                                        @Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        @Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                        I don't want to click.

                                        Giving the herald a miss at the moment.

                                        Better people make better editors.

                                        You were wise not to. That piece did a disservice to NZ in my opinion. Made them lookalike whiney losers. Boo-hoo it's not fair sort of thing. The actual quotes from any players were fine, it was the "journalism" around it that stank the place out.

                                        Yeah. Well he's a Pom...

                                        ... at least a Jock. Same thing.

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                                        • boobooB booboo

                                          @Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          I don't want to click.

                                          Giving the herald a miss at the moment.

                                          Better people make better editors.

                                          You were wise not to. That piece did a disservice to NZ in my opinion. Made them lookalike whiney losers. Boo-hoo it's not fair sort of thing. The actual quotes from any players were fine, it was the "journalism" around it that stank the place out.

                                          Yeah. Well he's a Pom...

                                          ... at least a Jock. Same thing.

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                                          @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          @Rapido said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

                                          I don't want to click.

                                          Giving the herald a miss at the moment.

                                          Better people make better editors.

                                          You were wise not to. That piece did a disservice to NZ in my opinion. Made them lookalike whiney losers. Boo-hoo it's not fair sort of thing. The actual quotes from any players were fine, it was the "journalism" around it that stank the place out.

                                          Yeah. Well he's a Pom...

                                          ... at least a Jock. Same thing.

                                          My dear boy. Have you been out in the hot colonial sun too long. You risk starting a long argument about who is most offended

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