European Club Rugby
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@Billy-Tell because he's not one
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Would be interesting to know if piutau's agent and the NZRU even exchanged pleasantries. Quite possibly not.
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@Billy-Tell Is it still Craig Innes?
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I completely understand Charles' decision making. If someone said to me two decades ago that I could play for the All Blacks in a highly competitive position and then go north to continue playing rugby but earn millions of dollars I'd have packed my bags.
Had they mentioned it was Ulster or Bristol instead of the south of France, I may have packed slower...
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@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
@Bones said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
Would have been an AB great imo
Why?
Why not?
That is a fucking long bow to draw. He is in it for the cash. Great AB's are in it for a completely different reason.
I couldn't care less that he isn't coming back.
He would have just headed back north after a failed season or two like all the rest.
Let him soak up some of the cash up north so the guys who actually want to be here don't get poached. -
Meh can't blame him. I'm sure he'd love to have stayed in NZ but when that much money gets thrown at him and he has the chance to support his family on top of himself then good on him.
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Bristol's not that bad a place. It has developed some cool spots near the river with a growing cafe/brewery/shopping side of things and is in a handy place for travel north or south to interesting places. Not that Charlie will probably get much time for that, but at least it isn't a complete shithole.
I know someone who joined the Bristol club just for ticket gaining purposes and says it has such a good club feel they regularly go there from London for a good night out. Says the club has a really open family vibe and the players mix in with the clubbies. Has offered to take me over so may go and check it out.
While I still don't comprehend the £s that get spent on players here, you can't blame Charles for grabbing it.
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I'm betting that it's more likely 1.5m for 2 years. He was on c.£420-450k in Ulster per year. Ulster weren't going to go above that, and renewing foreign contracts is a no-no under IRFU Succession Strategy anyway.
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You're not the first Irish poster I see to question the figures.
I don't really have an opinion but media outlets having been saying £1m season
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@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
You're not the first Irish poster I see to question the figures.
I don't really have an opinion but media outlets having been saying £1m season
Belfast Telegraph said £900k ($1.5m) per season. English Telegraph boosted this to £1m per season in its report. Ryan Constable, Piutau's agent, says price also includes image rights and merchandising performance. These figures get inflated all the time with all potential earnings thrown in to boost the market courtesy of agents. It suits PRL to be outbidding the French clubs. Bristol have put out a statement saying it's not close to £1m. Go figure.
It's all madness really. Can't wait for the sandcastles to collapse when the tide comes in.
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If the tide comes in...
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@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
If the tide comes in...
Fair point - if the tide comes in.
I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.
Interesting.
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@Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
If the tide comes in...
Fair point - if the tide comes in.
I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.
Interesting.
Will they have enough quota players?
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@Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
If the tide comes in...
Fair point - if the tide comes in.
I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.
Interesting.
You taking the piss? Or did some SARU media guy get smashed and let loose?
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@Kruse said in NH club rugby:
@Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
If the tide comes in...
Fair point - if the tide comes in.
I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.
Interesting.
You taking the piss? Or did some SARU media guy get smashed and let loose?
Did I fall into a sarchasm?Jurie Roux, CEO of SARU.
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@Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:
Jurie Roux
Well, I guess he's got a bit of spare cash to really tie one on. It does sound like an idea which could sound good after several bottles of champagne and a bit of nose-candy.
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@Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
If the tide comes in...
Fair point - if the tide comes in.
I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.
Interesting.
Source?
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@SidBarret said in NH club rugby:
@Pot-Hale said in NH club rugby:
@Billy-Tell said in NH club rugby:
If the tide comes in...
Fair point - if the tide comes in.
I see that SARU are now saying they plan to have 8 franchises playing pro rugby in the near future - 4 in the north and 4 in the south. In turn, they are likely to field two different test teams depending on whether they're playing down south for SA tours or Rugby Championship, or playing up north for November tours. In other words, use the PRO14/16 players in November, and SR players from July-Oct.
Interesting.
Source?
Daily Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2017/08/12/exclusive-springboks-will-rely-heavily-pro14-clubs-future-european/
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@Pot-Hale thanks.
The eight team idea has been bandied about, but I am not sure how much of that is real and how much is playing to the NH audience.
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@SidBarret said in NH club rugby:
@Pot-Hale thanks.
The eight team idea has been bandied about, but I am not sure how much of that is real and how much is playing to the NH audience.
Fair point except he's smart enough to know that an NH audience is made up of different interested parties with different agendas. If PRO14 is successful then adding two further teams from SA would be a logical expansion by 2020 when various competition agreements and TV rights are up for bidding and/or renegotiation including SANZAAR and Super Rugby, EPCR and European Cup agreement, along with the start of the new World Rugby global season schedule from 2021 - 2032.
