Bledisloe 2

Frye

@booboo Cheika did a lot more than blame the ref. He pretty much accused Owens of match fixing which was a disgraceful comment. He was interviewed by one of the Fox Sports guys post match and said that the "script had already been written". When asked to clarify this comment at the PC, he then said that he couldn't elaborate on that as it would land him in hot water.

I like to put the boot into Cheika as much as the next bloke but the script being written could mean anything. The narrative is that the All Blacks were heavy, heavy favourites. So he could just be suggesting that Owens didn't want to change the script in that regard. That Owens may think that the only way the Wallabies could win is if he had given them the rub of the green.

Personally I thought he did give them the rub, how a team can be so dominant at scrum time and not win a single scrum penalty is beyond me.

akan004

@Frye His PC comments would suggest otherwise.

His exact words: The script was written, it was all supposed to be that way you know. They get presented a Cup at the end, I understand.

booboo

@ACT-Crusader said in Bledisloe 2:

The drop goal is on...

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antipodean

I was watching a replay and wanted a gif of Aaron's awesome sidestep of Hooper but this was more entertaining:

Mokey

@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 2:

@hydro11 dunno, he got down on his knee, blew like a try, pointed to where BBBR has likely grounded it...why did he not say that when the ABs got up congratulating one another on a try, when they were walking back, when BB was lining up he even went back and told him to hold as they were looking at it, not hey BB this is a penalty kick not conversion, why has your team gone to half way, that confident in your boot even when we hadnt taken a single PK in the game, then when he got the TMO to look at it? All evidence points to him awarding a try.

Reckon it was a complete shambles.

Yep. When he went down on one knee, bobbed his head looking looking, then pointed and blew the whistle, I thought he's seen a fair grounding, try awarded. Was super shocked when well after the fact it was suddenly oh, penalty.

booboo

@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 2:

@ACT-Crusader was same gamble a FRenchie made in the 2007 RWC final.

Dimitri Szarzewski

(2011 ... there was no RWC in 2007 ... )

booboo

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

Stupid, stupid play from Hooper. Insane.

What option did he have?

Not charging around and conceding a penalty. Line up the next play and try and tackle someone?

After the buzzer. Riiiiiight...

It was before the buzzer. It won't get you there...

ABs fell over the line there. Played poorly, Wobs played really well and took their chances. Good game of footy.

I don't think Aus played well at all

Siam

despite being triggered often, I can't actually not like Cheika that much.

(my hypocritical criticisms not withstanding - I don't agree with his game time demeanour but he's obviously ok with it so, meh)

His team had lost a cracker they should have won.

By far the most commendable attribute of anyone on tele or in the media is 100% honesty, and Cheik has that.

Thought he was reasonable in his press conference (Hooper too) and actually I reckon he'd be great value talking rugby over a beer or two.

Aussies do that to you I reckon - can be equal parts dickhead and top fella all at the same time....;)

booboo

@akan004 said in Bledisloe 2:

@Stargazer said in Bledisloe 2:

@akan004 Cheika obviously missed two AB tries being disallowed.

With a coach who always feels the world is against his team, they will never improve.

Foley reckons the Wallabies were in control of the game right throughout. Is that why you gave up a 17 point lead, you farking idiot? I really hope we demolish them in Brisbane. Sick of them talking themselves up all the time.

Hear hear

Siam

@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

Stupid, stupid play from Hooper. Insane.

What option did he have?

Not charging around and conceding a penalty. Line up the next play and try and tackle someone?

After the buzzer. Riiiiiight...

It was before the buzzer. It won't get you there...

ABs fell over the line there. Played poorly, Wobs played really well and took their chances. Good game of footy.

I don't think Aus played well at all

Really?

Apart from losing what did they do poorly?

They tackled better than us.
They had no ball but still took the lead with 3 to go
One bloke missed some kicks
They won all their lineout ball
Sure scrum was monstered but they responded to stop the haemoraging

Anti Stockholm syndrome?

booboo

@jegga said in Bledisloe 2:

Watching the game now , Aussie scrum reminds me of the era where they considered Matt Dunning a test level prop.

Cheika is close to surpassing Woodward as most fuckwitted coach of the pro era , well done to him for having edged past Scott Johnson and Warren Gatland.

Owens not his usual self tonight.

DMac and SBW weak links so far.

I disagree entirely. He's way past Woodward level.

booboo

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@Kruse said in Bledisloe 2:

@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 2:

Chieka is fulfilling the clown image our media have painted, really is a fuck wit...as said during the game the cameras need to stop looking at him for his expletive laden trades every 5 mins.

I would pay extra for a "red button" option which showed a little corner-window of video, and even more for audio, of Cheika.

To be honest the guy is treading extremely close to bringing the game into disrepute. He questions every decision with disdain then has a bitch after the game with "I'm not complaining but...."
At the very least he shows no respect to the officials. Use the right channels you clown.

And have a shave.

Hear hear

Rancid Schnitzel

@akan004 said in Bledisloe 2:

Just watched the game again. DMac made one big mistake which was the intercept pass. He was pretty good otherwise and created the Ben Smith try. Looks like he's going to be one of those players whose errors are going to be magnified by the public. I wouldn't feel comfortable seeing him start a game against a NH team or even SA but he is being unfairly criticised for his two performances against the Wallabies. BB made a lot of blunders as well but nobody is calling him up for them

That's twice in 2 games he's gifted the opposition tries. If you join the line and there isn't a soul behind you then you better be 100% sure of the play or hold onto the farking pill. He was a bit ropey on defence as well. I'm actually a big fan of the kid but he just doesn't seem suited to test level.

What's amazing is that a couple of months back there was a big debate about whether JB should even be in the team. Now he'd own the jersey with daylight behind.

booboo

@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 2:

Initially it seemed his bluster was deflection to get people not looking at his inefficiecies as a coach but I think he does believe the shit he is spouting.

Sure he has passion but not sure he is good for Aussie, even if his public whinging face is completely different to the one behind closed doors...but I expect his angry passionate outbursts are not just for the camera.

One of our local physios and previous coaches played with or against him in Sydney. Says what you see is him.

Rancid Schnitzel

I used to say to my soccer loving mates that at least rugby coaches don't play the retarded monkey like the soccer managers. So much for that argument.

booboo

@jegga said in Bledisloe 2:

@Kruse said in Bledisloe 2:

@taniwharugby said in Bledisloe 2:

Initially it seemed his bluster was deflection to get people not looking at his inefficies as a coach but I think he does believe the shit he is spouting.

Sure he has passion but not sure he is good for Aussie, even if his public whinging face is completely different to the one behind closed doors...but I expect his angry passionate outbursts are not just for the camera.

And how fucked is that?
For those that want genuine competition for the sake of rugby - not good.
For those that love watching the ABs spanking the wallabies over and over again - great.
Of course - today... I'm not sure how that fits in to that "narrative"... how did a team coached by that, nearly beat us?

The puppet managed to coach a team that beat us three times in 2009 including beating us at home. He was a fuckwit of monumental porportions too.

But he was just an idiot.

booboo

@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:

@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

I noticed he doesn't refer to us as the ABs. He doesn't realise he's in full aura mode

I noticed in Hansen's onfield interview that he called us "Australia" and not "The Wallabies".

So is that a thing or does he call us The Wallabies at other times?

It's because of your aura.

jegga

@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

@jegga said in Bledisloe 2:

Watching the game now , Aussie scrum reminds me of the era where they considered Matt Dunning a test level prop.

Cheika is close to surpassing Woodward as most fuckwitted coach of the pro era , well done to him for having edged past Scott Johnson and Warren Gatland.

Owens not his usual self tonight.

DMac and SBW weak links so far.

I disagree entirely. He's way past Woodward level.

We haven't had a PowerPoint presentation yet explaining why the all blacks are cheats.

booboo

@Siam said in Bledisloe 2:

@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:

@nzzp said in Bledisloe 2:

Stupid, stupid play from Hooper. Insane.

What option did he have?

Not charging around and conceding a penalty. Line up the next play and try and tackle someone?

After the buzzer. Riiiiiight...

It was before the buzzer. It won't get you there...

ABs fell over the line there. Played poorly, Wobs played really well and took their chances. Good game of footy.

I don't think Aus played well at all

Really?

Apart from losing what did they do poorly?

They tackled better than us.
They had no ball but still took the lead with 3 to go
One bloke missed some kicks
They won all their lineout ball
Sure scrum was monstered but they responded to stop the haemoraging

Anti Stockholm syndrome?

They were basically dominated. Created little except on turnover. Were incredibly lucky to be in touch on the score board despite fluking the luckiest 17 point lead ever. Thus the perception is they played well. 35-12 in the last 60 minutes. 3 unawarded tries. Add it up. It's not as good as the perception based on 35-29.

canefan

@booboo said in Bledisloe 2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:

@canefan said in Bledisloe 2:

I noticed he doesn't refer to us as the ABs. He doesn't realise he's in full aura mode

I noticed in Hansen's onfield interview that he called us "Australia" and not "The Wallabies".

So is that a thing or does he call us The Wallabies at other times?

It's because of your ~~aura~~ cloak of failure

fixed

The Silver Fern

Bledisloe 2