All Blacks v Pumas
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas:
ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (c), Ardie Savea, Vaea Fifita, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Lima Sopoaga, Ngani Laumape.
Return of the hot stepper.
Good to see Nehe back.
Little bit of rotation without going OTT. Good.
Sammy deserves a rest.
Would be fun to watch Laumape and Dubs together although I don't expect that to be plan A.
Only question for me is TKB on the bench. No problem in as much as he is clearly in the 3 best halfbacks, but as he's leaving are we missing a chance to get another 9 blooded? Or is Weber next in line and still not 100% so TKB is stop gap as nobody else is ready?
Who says they'll even have 3 full-time halfbacks in the squad after TKB leaves? It wasn't that long ago they only had Weepu and Cowan, with Ellis only called up when needed.
@Unco said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas:
ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (c), Ardie Savea, Vaea Fifita, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Lima Sopoaga, Ngani Laumape.
Return of the hot stepper.
Good to see Nehe back.
Little bit of rotation without going OTT. Good.
Sammy deserves a rest.
Would be fun to watch Laumape and Dubs together although I don't expect that to be plan A.
Only question for me is TKB on the bench. No problem in as much as he is clearly in the 3 best halfbacks, but as he's leaving are we missing a chance to get another 9 blooded? Or is Weber next in line and still not 100% so TKB is stop gap as nobody else is ready?
Who says they'll even have 3 full-time halfbacks in the squad after TKB leaves? It wasn't that long ago they only had Weepu and Cowan, with Ellis only called up when needed.
I don't think there is a clear 3rd choice after TKB leaves. And the options are a little thin at the moment, so IMO I wouldn't be just getting anyone. Smith and TJP are pretty durable.
If DMac stays in the squad then perhaps he will be our emergency standby....
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas:
ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (c), Ardie Savea, Vaea Fifita, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Lima Sopoaga, Ngani Laumape.
Return of the hot stepper.
Good to see Nehe back.
Little bit of rotation without going OTT. Good.
Sammy deserves a rest.
Would be fun to watch Laumape and Dubs together although I don't expect that to be plan A.
Only question for me is TKB on the bench. No problem in as much as he is clearly in the 3 best halfbacks, but as he's leaving are we missing a chance to get another 9 blooded? Or is Weber next in line and still not 100% so TKB is stop gap as nobody else is ready?
Who says they'll even have 3 full-time halfbacks in the squad after TKB leaves? It wasn't that long ago they only had Weepu and Cowan, with Ellis only called up when needed.
@Unco said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas:
ALL BLACKS: Damian McKenzie, Israel Dagg, Anton Lienert-Brown, Sonny Bill Williams, Nehe Milner-Skudder, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Kieran Read (c), Ardie Savea, Vaea Fifita, Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Nepo Laulala, Dane Coles, Joe Moody.
Reserves: Codie Taylor, Wyatt Crockett, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Scott Barrett, Sam Cane, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Lima Sopoaga, Ngani Laumape.
Return of the hot stepper.
Good to see Nehe back.
Little bit of rotation without going OTT. Good.
Sammy deserves a rest.
Would be fun to watch Laumape and Dubs together although I don't expect that to be plan A.
Only question for me is TKB on the bench. No problem in as much as he is clearly in the 3 best halfbacks, but as he's leaving are we missing a chance to get another 9 blooded? Or is Weber next in line and still not 100% so TKB is stop gap as nobody else is ready?
Who says they'll even have 3 full-time halfbacks in the squad after TKB leaves? It wasn't that long ago they only had Weepu and Cowan, with Ellis only called up when needed.
Still going to need that Ellis equivalent given some game time whether he's in the squad or not. Point stands.
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I think he's got to make the most of it too. He's certainly got the potential, but yet to deliver. Were he to do so, he could really make the bench interesting, especially as 6/lock cover.
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Hansen has said that they don't view Fifita as a lock. That may change with opportunties in that position as he's a similar height to Barrett.
@Bovidae Probably the difference in weight.
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Hansen has said that they don't view Fifita as a lock. That may change with opportunties in that position as he's a similar height to Barrett.
Yeah, I've seen that, but I personally don't see that much value in him as a straight up 6, unless he is some kind of project. My point was that he could cover 6/lock (not lock/6) in an era when both of our two front liners (and even Barrett) can go 80.
As injury cover, I think he's an interesting piece of the puzzle, if we are trying for full-on speed in the last 30.
Right now, the bench is pretty weak, so I assume they are trying to make Ofa the new Charlie (come back Charlie!), with Taylor plus ____?, a 6/lock like Fifita, Ardie, TJP, McKenzie (as 10 cover but coming on at 15), And Laumape/ALB there is plenty of power and speed.
Lots of those players need testing and experience of course, but I think that's where this year is most interesting. I feel like many are trying to guarantee a 23 spot.
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Yeah, I've seen that, but I personally don't see that much value in him as a straight up 6, unless he is some kind of project. My point was that he could cover 6/lock (not lock/6) in an era when both of our two front liners (and even Barrett) can go 80.
As injury cover, I think he's an interesting piece of the puzzle, if we are trying for full-on speed in the last 30.
Right now, the bench is pretty weak, so I assume they are trying to make Ofa the new Charlie (come back Charlie!), with Taylor plus ____?, a 6/lock like Fifita, Ardie, TJP, McKenzie (as 10 cover but coming on at 15), And Laumape/ALB there is plenty of power and speed.
Lots of those players need testing and experience of course, but I think that's where this year is most interesting. I feel like many are trying to guarantee a 23 spot.
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Ha ha, Steve responds
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@gt12 Given what they say about his change in weight and explosive drills results, you can see why they're so excited at the promise he can bring to the blindside. Good explanation why they don't see him as a lock.
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Yeah, I've seen that, but I personally don't see that much value in him as a straight up 6, unless he is some kind of project. My point was that he could cover 6/lock (not lock/6) in an era when both of our two front liners (and even Barrett) can go 80.
As injury cover, I think he's an interesting piece of the puzzle, if we are trying for full-on speed in the last 30.
Right now, the bench is pretty weak, so I assume they are trying to make Ofa the new Charlie (come back Charlie!), with Taylor plus ____?, a 6/lock like Fifita, Ardie, TJP, McKenzie (as 10 cover but coming on at 15), And Laumape/ALB there is plenty of power and speed.
Lots of those players need testing and experience of course, but I think that's where this year is most interesting. I feel like many are trying to guarantee a 23 spot.
@gt12 we'll see about what they do with Ofa now that Laulala has shown his wares. At least for the rest of the season Ofa will get good game time to improve. But when Franks comes back who knows.
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@gt12 we'll see about what they do with Ofa now that Laulala has shown his wares. At least for the rest of the season Ofa will get good game time to improve. But when Franks comes back who knows.
@ACT-Crusader Earlier in thread it was suggested that they were trying to make Ofa the new Charlie. I seem to recall Charlie wasn't the greatest scrummager in his early days but to paraphrase Joel Stransky had the potential to become a 10 in a prop's body. Ofa is certainly a physical specimen in the loose.
Laulala is scrumming specialist, so a straight back up for Franks. As are Hames and Moody. Moli seems to offer potential to be another mobile prop who can scrummage tidily.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:
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Christ on a bike, any excuse to mention SBW as some kind of super athlete as if the rest are beer swilling club players.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:
www/nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Pumas:
Only that link. Strange
I'll have a look at it tomorrow
It's just that the link is missing the '.'
www/nzheraldAnyway, high praise for Fifita. Looking forward to seeing him in action.
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@gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:
www/nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Pumas:
Only that link. Strange
I'll have a look at it tomorrow
It's just that the link is missing the '.'
www/nzheraldAnyway, high praise for Fifita. Looking forward to seeing him in action.
@Milk said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:
www/nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Pumas:
Only that link. Strange
I'll have a look at it tomorrow
It's just that the link is missing the '.'
www/nzheraldAnyway, high praise for Fifita. Looking forward to seeing him in action.
Ah that was me ... kind of.
It didn't have the "www" for a start. So I edited it to add but put a "/" instead of a ".".
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@Milk said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:
www/nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985
@Duluth said in All Blacks v Pumas:
Only that link. Strange
I'll have a look at it tomorrow
It's just that the link is missing the '.'
www/nzheraldAnyway, high praise for Fifita. Looking forward to seeing him in action.
Ah that was me ... kind of.
It didn't have the "www" for a start. So I edited it to add but put a "/" instead of a ".".
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:
Ah that was me ... kind of.
It didn't have the "www" for a start. So I edited it to add but put a "/" instead of a ".".
It wasn't you. I took out the www so the link would show
The embedding isn't working. It's something to do with the & getting resolved differently than other links
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@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:
Having said that someone else has fixed that and it's still not displaying on my browser
YEah, that was me not fixing it properly..... thought I was being useful, I was wrong
@Hooroo said in All Blacks v Pumas:
@booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:
Having said that someone else has fixed that and it's still not displaying on my browser
YEah, that was me not fixing it properly..... thought I was being useful, I was wrong
Me too
