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All Blacks v Pumas

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Rugby Matches
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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @gt12

    Hansen has said that they don't view Fifita as a lock. That may change with opportunties in that position as he's a similar height to Barrett.

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    @Bovidae

    Yeah, I've seen that, but I personally don't see that much value in him as a straight up 6, unless he is some kind of project. My point was that he could cover 6/lock (not lock/6) in an era when both of our two front liners (and even Barrett) can go 80.

    As injury cover, I think he's an interesting piece of the puzzle, if we are trying for full-on speed in the last 30.

    Right now, the bench is pretty weak, so I assume they are trying to make Ofa the new Charlie (come back Charlie!), with Taylor plus ____?, a 6/lock like Fifita, Ardie, TJP, McKenzie (as 10 cover but coming on at 15), And Laumape/ALB there is plenty of power and speed.

    Lots of those players need testing and experience of course, but I think that's where this year is most interesting. I feel like many are trying to guarantee a 23 spot.

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    • gt12G gt12

      @Bovidae

      Yeah, I've seen that, but I personally don't see that much value in him as a straight up 6, unless he is some kind of project. My point was that he could cover 6/lock (not lock/6) in an era when both of our two front liners (and even Barrett) can go 80.

      As injury cover, I think he's an interesting piece of the puzzle, if we are trying for full-on speed in the last 30.

      Right now, the bench is pretty weak, so I assume they are trying to make Ofa the new Charlie (come back Charlie!), with Taylor plus ____?, a 6/lock like Fifita, Ardie, TJP, McKenzie (as 10 cover but coming on at 15), And Laumape/ALB there is plenty of power and speed.

      Lots of those players need testing and experience of course, but I think that's where this year is most interesting. I feel like many are trying to guarantee a 23 spot.

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      wrote on last edited by Duluth
      #33

      @gt12

      Ha ha, Steve responds 🙂

      Edit: Link not working to herald article?

      nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

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      • gt12G gt12

        @gt12

        Ha ha, Steve responds 🙂

        Edit: Link not working to herald article?

        nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

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        #34

        @gt12

        Only that link. Strange

        I'll have a look at it tomorrow

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        • gt12G gt12

          @gt12

          Ha ha, Steve responds 🙂

          Edit: Link not working to herald article?

          nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

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          @gt12 Given what they say about his change in weight and explosive drills results, you can see why they're so excited at the promise he can bring to the blindside. Good explanation why they don't see him as a lock.

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          • gt12G gt12

            @Bovidae

            Yeah, I've seen that, but I personally don't see that much value in him as a straight up 6, unless he is some kind of project. My point was that he could cover 6/lock (not lock/6) in an era when both of our two front liners (and even Barrett) can go 80.

            As injury cover, I think he's an interesting piece of the puzzle, if we are trying for full-on speed in the last 30.

            Right now, the bench is pretty weak, so I assume they are trying to make Ofa the new Charlie (come back Charlie!), with Taylor plus ____?, a 6/lock like Fifita, Ardie, TJP, McKenzie (as 10 cover but coming on at 15), And Laumape/ALB there is plenty of power and speed.

            Lots of those players need testing and experience of course, but I think that's where this year is most interesting. I feel like many are trying to guarantee a 23 spot.

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            @gt12 we'll see about what they do with Ofa now that Laulala has shown his wares. At least for the rest of the season Ofa will get good game time to improve. But when Franks comes back who knows.

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @gt12 we'll see about what they do with Ofa now that Laulala has shown his wares. At least for the rest of the season Ofa will get good game time to improve. But when Franks comes back who knows.

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              @ACT-Crusader Earlier in thread it was suggested that they were trying to make Ofa the new Charlie. I seem to recall Charlie wasn't the greatest scrummager in his early days but to paraphrase Joel Stransky had the potential to become a 10 in a prop's body. Ofa is certainly a physical specimen in the loose.

              Laulala is scrumming specialist, so a straight back up for Franks. As are Hames and Moody. Moli seems to offer potential to be another mobile prop who can scrummage tidily.

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                #38

                As long as Ofa doesn't become another Joe McDonnell or Jamie Mackintosh.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  As long as Ofa doesn't become another Joe McDonnell or Jamie Mackintosh.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                  As long as Ofa doesn't become another Joe McDonnell or Jamie Mackintosh.

                  Wrong initials

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @gt12

                    Ha ha, Steve responds 🙂

                    Edit: Link not working to herald article?

                    nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

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                    #40

                    @gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                    @gt12

                    Ha ha, Steve responds 🙂

                    Edit: Link not working to herald article?

                    nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

                    Christ on a bike, any excuse to mention SBW as some kind of super athlete as if the rest are beer swilling club players.

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      @gt12

                      Ha ha, Steve responds 🙂

                      Edit: Link not working to herald article?

                      nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

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                      #41

                      @gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                      www/nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

                      @Duluth said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                      @gt12

                      Only that link. Strange

                      I'll have a look at it tomorrow

                      It's just that the link is missing the '.'
                      www/nzherald

                      Anyway, high praise for Fifita. Looking forward to seeing him in action.

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                      • MilkM Milk

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                        www/nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                        @gt12

                        Only that link. Strange

                        I'll have a look at it tomorrow

                        It's just that the link is missing the '.'
                        www/nzherald

                        Anyway, high praise for Fifita. Looking forward to seeing him in action.

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                        #42

                        @Milk said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                        www/nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                        @gt12

                        Only that link. Strange

                        I'll have a look at it tomorrow

                        It's just that the link is missing the '.'
                        www/nzherald

                        Anyway, high praise for Fifita. Looking forward to seeing him in action.

                        Ah that was me ... kind of.

                        It didn't have the "www" for a start. So I edited it to add but put a "/" instead of a ".".

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                          #43

                          Having said that someone else has fixed that and it's still not displaying on my browser

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            Having said that someone else has fixed that and it's still not displaying on my browser

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                            @booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                            Having said that someone else has fixed that and it's still not displaying on my browser

                            YEah, that was me not fixing it properly..... thought I was being useful, I was wrong

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                            • boobooB booboo

                              @Milk said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                              @gt12 said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                              www/nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11918985

                              @Duluth said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                              @gt12

                              Only that link. Strange

                              I'll have a look at it tomorrow

                              It's just that the link is missing the '.'
                              www/nzherald

                              Anyway, high praise for Fifita. Looking forward to seeing him in action.

                              Ah that was me ... kind of.

                              It didn't have the "www" for a start. So I edited it to add but put a "/" instead of a ".".

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                              @booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                              Ah that was me ... kind of.

                              It didn't have the "www" for a start. So I edited it to add but put a "/" instead of a ".".

                              It wasn't you. I took out the www so the link would show

                              The embedding isn't working. It's something to do with the & getting resolved differently than other links

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                                Having said that someone else has fixed that and it's still not displaying on my browser

                                YEah, that was me not fixing it properly..... thought I was being useful, I was wrong

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                                booboo
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                                @Hooroo said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                                @booboo said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                                Having said that someone else has fixed that and it's still not displaying on my browser

                                YEah, that was me not fixing it properly..... thought I was being useful, I was wrong

                                Me too

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  As long as Ofa doesn't become another Joe McDonnell or Jamie Mackintosh.

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                                  #47

                                  @Bovidae

                                  I still recall a bemused/gobsmacked media listening to a condescending Mitchell explain why McDonnell was picked from nowhere for his "explosive power".

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                                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                    @Bovidae

                                    I still recall a bemused/gobsmacked media listening to a condescending Mitchell explain why McDonnell was picked from nowhere for his "explosive power".

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                                    #48

                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                                    @Bovidae

                                    ...Mitchell...McDonnell... "explosive power".

                                    0_1504853226189_images.jpg

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                                      #49

                                      Owen Frank's explosive power has seen him carry the ball about 5 metres in his whole career and score the same amount of test tries as everyone else commenting on this thread.

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                                        Best thing about this game so far - backs wearing black boots

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                                          Nice break by DMac to set up NMS

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