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All Blacks v Pumas

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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    Fifita could well be the impact forward we have been looking for ,

    If Kaino is nearly finished , Squire starting , Fifita coming on later could be something they look at .

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v Pumas:

    Fifita could well be the impact forward we have been looking for ,

    If Kaino is nearly finished , Squire starting , Fifita coming on later could be something they look at .

    I'm not so sure that will get the big moments out of him. Although he had some absolutely fantastic moments he also had quite a bit of time wandering around lost. That will change with experience but he looks to me like the type of player that needs a lot of minutes playing to produce the flashes of brilliance.
    You can't deny the athleticism but to expect that to happen in a 20 minute spell is expecting a lot.

    I'll go into bat for DMac as well. Those were perfectly weighted and placed kicks. The type we have seen BFA shell often as well. I don't mind the running sideways so much as he will stop that at this level now he has seen it doesn't work as well as it does in Super Rugby. FFS he has to try and play to his strengths and things that have worked in the past for him to see if they work. He was mindful to make sure he linked properly when no gap appeared and it never cost us ground or possession.

    Thought he played much better than BB in that game and no one is having a crack at him apart from goal kicking.

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      Put me on the Sopoaga starting next week band wagon - with BB @ fullback, and NMS/Ioane on the wings - Nice.
      DMac is done for now. The Boks would love him to start - so that can't be a good thing.

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        @Stockcar86 said in All Blacks v Pumas:

        Finally Laumape ALB combo

        For a good solid 3 minutes 🙂

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        @ACT-Crusader Are you saying that in contrast to SBW and ALB because I thought they were great tonight. Especially when SBW was crashing the ball up.

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          TSF is harsh on DMac ... yeah he coughed up the high balls which is an issue but his positional play and opportunity creation was fine.

          Savea is a bench 7,Cane is the starter.

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            TSF is harsh on DMac ... yeah he coughed up the high balls which is an issue but his positional play and opportunity creation was fine.

            Savea is a bench 7,Cane is the starter.

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            @MajorRage hmmm...never been around for a game with Dagg at fullback?

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            • BonesB Bones

              @MajorRage hmmm...never been around for a game with Dagg at fullback?

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              @Bones not sure of point?

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              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                @Bones not sure of point?

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                @MajorRage said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                @Bones not sure of point?

                It's early he might not have had a coffee yet

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                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                  @Bones not sure of point?

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                  @MajorRage tsf isn't harsh on DMac. He's just a bit cake and I've seen Dagg cop all sorts of grief for not being Ben Smith.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @MajorRage tsf isn't harsh on DMac. He's just a bit cake and I've seen Dagg cop all sorts of grief for not being Ben Smith.

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                    @Bones gotcha ...

                    Not saying he doesn't deserve criticism ... but his good points from last night (and there were many) seem to have been forgotten. Hence, harsh.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @MajorRage tsf isn't harsh on DMac. He's just a bit cake and I've seen Dagg cop all sorts of grief for not being Ben Smith.

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                      @Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                      @MajorRage tsf isn't harsh on DMac. He's just a bit cake and I've seen Dagg cop all sorts of grief for not being Ben Smith.

                      I think you calling him cake kind of makes MRs point. He's had mixed games but the focus around here is only on the errors. Certain players get their errors focused on and certain players get them excused ... that's always the way around here, and that's not going to change, DMac gets his focused on.

                      Damn, MR beat me and made my point more succinctly.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                        @MajorRage tsf isn't harsh on DMac. He's just a bit cake and I've seen Dagg cop all sorts of grief for not being Ben Smith.

                        I think you calling him cake kind of makes MRs point. He's had mixed games but the focus around here is only on the errors. Certain players get their errors focused on and certain players get them excused ... that's always the way around here, and that's not going to change, DMac gets his focused on.

                        Damn, MR beat me and made my point more succinctly.

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                        @Nepia I said a bit cake and that's definitely not harsh. His good points last night are what you would expect of a test player, other than that he made one very nice break, although that should probably have been shifted earlier.

                        What makes him a bit cake is the errors, the running around like a headless chook. That's not harsh.

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Nepia I said a bit cake and that's definitely not harsh. His good points last night are what you would expect of a test player, other than that he made one very nice break, although that should probably have been shifted earlier.

                          What makes him a bit cake is the errors, the running around like a headless chook. That's not harsh.

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                          @Bones Fair enough, I took 'a bit cake', to just mean 'cake'.

                          Anyway, as MR said, no one thinks he didn't make some errors, but my point is they do seem to be focussed on more than errors made by other players in the team ....

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                            Errors made by a fullback are more likely to cost points. That is a good reason why they receive more attention.

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                              @Bones Fair enough, I took 'a bit cake', to just mean 'cake'.

                              Anyway, as MR said, no one thinks he didn't make some errors, but my point is they do seem to be focussed on more than errors made by other players in the team ....

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                              @Nepia you've got to admit his stand out and as said are costly or can be costly. At times he looks like how I imagine Beaker would play rugby.

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                                Early days, but there may be a new 10 on the radar to add to the riches; and give BB some kicking lessons - Mitch Hunt. Another off the Canterbury conveyor belt.

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                                  @Bones @Tim With the preface again that I don't think DMac had a great game. Yeah, of course those errors are notable, but as I said earlier two of those drops he probably shouldn't have been the guy having to go in to take them.

                                  But, for some context, f we're talking that game then (goalkicking aside as that's a separate issue) BB's errors could also have been costly, two unforced fluffed kick offs and a yellow card - yet there's hardly been a peep about those around here.

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                                    IMO I think DMacs errors are the least of our problems, unless people think he is the cause of all the other issues in the team...:thinking:

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                                      Can someone please list these DMac errors?
                                      If you are talking about not collecting high balls from 20 metres away they are missed opportunities rather than errors. I wonder why the ball was put in that no mans land? To make it 50/50 perhaps.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Nepia you've got to admit his stand out and as said are costly or can be costly. At times he looks like how I imagine Beaker would play rugby.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                                        @Nepia you've got to admit his stand out and as said are costly or can be costly. At times he looks like how I imagine Beaker would play rugby.

                                        About the harshest call ever made on TSF.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          Can someone please list these DMac errors?
                                          If you are talking about not collecting high balls from 20 metres away they are missed opportunities rather than errors. I wonder why the ball was put in that no mans land? To make it 50/50 perhaps.

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                                          @Crucial said in All Blacks v Pumas:

                                          Can someone please list these DMac errors?
                                          If you are talking about not collecting high balls from 20 metres away they are missed opportunities rather than errors. I wonder why the ball was put in that no mans land? To make it 50/50 perhaps.

                                          Good grief. He's the fullback. Are they only errors if the opposition kick straight down his throat?

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