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Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    With that draw, the Springboks and Wallabies just handed the RC to the All Blacks!

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    @stargazer don't really think the ABs are going to lose in Argieland.

    Funny old season for us. Couldn't shut out the ABs or quite get over the Boks. Could be looking at 4 wins instead of 1.

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    • J JustAnotherFan

      Nothing worse than a Kiwi ref.

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      @justanotherfan said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

      Nothing worse than a Kiwi ref.

      Not sure what you are referring to specifically or if it is just bait but i somewhat agree in this case.
      This ref is out of his depth at super rugby level. Don't know why he is doing internationals.
      I guess it is just two lowly ranked teams though.

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        "He grabbed the guy around the collar," Cheika said.

        When further probed on the issue, Cheika was even more adamant.

        "You've got to watch the vision (replay) ... he got him by the collar," the coach re-iterated.

        "He didn't come in and grab him by the hair. Who tackles somebody by the hair? Forget about it ... it's a non-issue."

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          @justanotherfan said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

          Nothing worse than a Kiwi ref.

          Not sure what you are referring to specifically or if it is just bait but i somewhat agree in this case.
          This ref is out of his depth at super rugby level. Don't know why he is doing internationals.
          I guess it is just two lowly ranked teams though.

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          @pukunui said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

          @justanotherfan said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

          Nothing worse than a Kiwi ref.

          Not sure what you are referring to specifically or if it is just bait but i somewhat agree in this case.
          This ref is out of his depth at super rugby level. Don't know why he is doing internationals.
          I guess it is just two lowly ranked teams though.

          Our eye doctor was already a nightmare at NPC level. I don't get how he's been able to progress through the ranks so quickly. He debuted as an ITM Cup ref in 2013, SR in 2015, international in 2016.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            "He grabbed the guy around the collar," Cheika said.

            When further probed on the issue, Cheika was even more adamant.

            "You've got to watch the vision (replay) ... he got him by the collar," the coach re-iterated.

            "He didn't come in and grab him by the hair. Who tackles somebody by the hair? Forget about it ... it's a non-issue."

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            @kiwimurph said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

            "He grabbed the guy around the collar," Cheika said.

            When further probed on the issue, Cheika was even more adamant.

            "You've got to watch the vision (replay) ... he got him by the collar," the coach re-iterated.

            "He didn't come in and grab him by the hair. Who tackles somebody by the hair? Forget about it ... it's a non-issue."

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              Just saw highlights. Seemed like an entertaining game but way too many mistakes. Some real headless chicken shit there.

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              • boobooB booboo

                @kiwimurph said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

                "He grabbed the guy around the collar," Cheika said.

                When further probed on the issue, Cheika was even more adamant.

                "You've got to watch the vision (replay) ... he got him by the collar," the coach re-iterated.

                "He didn't come in and grab him by the hair. Who tackles somebody by the hair? Forget about it ... it's a non-issue."

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                @booboo

                I wonder if that should be a penalty similar to a shoulder tackle riding up? TBF, the tackle on the collar is likely penalisable on its own under today's reffing.

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                  Two things.

                  1. Re Folau. Am a bit torn on this. Reckon he started with the collar but slipped up to hair. No real intent but it was high and dangerous. Yellow for me. Not sure if it gets cited as possibly not red card threshold.

                  2. Skosan's try. One for the gear grinding thread. I have no issue with having two attacking backlines and using the "second man play", but it grinds my gears when the screen in front continues running into the defence to disrupt them and create holes. Brast and 20 made the holes for Skosan to run in into.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    Two things.

                    1. Re Folau. Am a bit torn on this. Reckon he started with the collar but slipped up to hair. No real intent but it was high and dangerous. Yellow for me. Not sure if it gets cited as possibly not red card threshold.

                    2. Skosan's try. One for the gear grinding thread. I have no issue with having two attacking backlines and using the "second man play", but it grinds my gears when the screen in front continues running into the defence to disrupt them and create holes. Brast and 20 made the holes for Skosan to run in into.

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                    @booboo said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

                    Two things.

                    1. Re Folau. Am a bit torn on this. Reckon he started with the collar but slipped up to hair. No real intent but it was high and dangerous. Yellow for me. Not sure if it gets cited as possibly not red card threshold.

                    Definitely - He grabbed the collar, turned out he had hair as well (insert joke about the guy having girly long hair) - the grip on collar slipped, he ended up just having a grip on the poor fluffybunny's hair, took a little too long to release that.
                    On the slow-motion replays... that looks real bad. In real time, he was probably a bit slow in realising he was holding a bunch of some guys hair... maybe instinctively thought there was a BJ in the works.

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                      I actually thought this was a bloody entertaining game. Both sides showed great intent.

                      As a Wallabies fan, I'll take a draw on the high veldt any day. The Boks played well enough, and that's a game we usually lose. Our attack was nice and our defence solid considering the Boks had the weight of possession.

                      As for the ref - fark me there's been some whinging. He was fine. Couple of missed calls (booboo you're so fkn right about those decoy runners, they did my head in) but did it affect the result? No.

                      So much bleating online though. From fans of both teams. And from our coach. God I wish people would just focus on the footy. The ref blew a few bad calls, like they do every game. Get over it.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @booboo

                        I wonder if that should be a penalty similar to a shoulder tackle riding up? TBF, the tackle on the collar is likely penalisable on its own under today's reffing.

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                        Watched the replay and it's not a bad game tbh. Just poor options/ finishing ruined it for either team who could have won it.

                        @nepia said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

                        @booboo

                        I wonder if that should be a penalty similar to a shoulder tackle riding up? TBF, the tackle on the collar is likely penalisable on its own under today's reffing.

                        You can't tackle on the collar - that's a penalty.

                        He then continued to pull the player by the hair. That's a YC, but shouldn't meet a RC threshold so hopefully common sense prevails and he doesn't get cited.

                        Quite frankly, if women can play and put their long hair in a bun to prevent this from happening, men can too. Or get a haircut.

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                          @antipodean some women don’t wear it in a bun....

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @antipodean some women don’t wear it in a bun....

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                            @act-crusader The smart ones do.
                            @antipodean And yeah - I was thinking the same... most of the ladies are clever enough to braid/bun their hair.The guys should be 'a head' of the game too.
                            But... that's not taking away from the fact that yeah, Folau should maybe have gotten a bit more of a penalty than he did. If anything, I wonder if Etzebeth being a cock actually mitigated the whole thing, and if he'd actually @JustAnotherFan "Captain is doing his role" - by being sensible, cool-headed and letting the ref do his job - there would have been a YC.
                            I was supporting the saffas in this game, but FFS - Etzebeth makes that hard.

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                              I'm very certain Leyds (sp?) Had his hair tied up, if it matters.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                Nothing separating these two (mediocre) teams....

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                                @act-crusader said in Springboks v Wallabies - Bloemfontein:

                                Nothing separating these two (mediocre) teams....

                                Wobblies have conceeded one point less. Still keeping their edge.

                                @salacious-crumb said in Wallabies v Boks - Perthfontein:

                                @Salacious-Crumb said in Wallabies v Boks - Perthfontein:

                                AMAZING STATS:

                                Both the Springboks and the Wallabies have played 101 102 Rugby Championship matches.

                                Of those, each side has won 42 matches, lost 57 and drawn 2 3.

                                Even more bizarre is that, in all of that time, the Wallabies have conceded 2,472 2,495 Rugby Championship points to South Africa's 2,473 2,496.

                                Updated.

                                AMAZING STATS:

                                Both the Springboks and the Wallabies have played 101 102 103 Rugby Championship matches.

                                Of those, each side has won 42 matches, lost 57 and drawn 2 3 4.

                                Even more bizarre is that, in all of that time, the Wallabies have conceded 2,472 2,495 2522 Rugby Championship points to South Africa's 2,473 2,496 2523.

                                Fixed again.

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