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Chiefs 2018

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  • TimT Tim

    What's your first choice XXIII going to be? I'm hesitant to assume that Ngatai will be available for > 50% of games.

    1. Hames
    2. Harris
    3. Laulala
    4. Retallick
    5. Bird/Allardice/Brown
    6. Seu/Brown
    7. Cane
    8. Brown/Messam
    9. TTT/Weber
    10. McKenzie
    11. Alaimalo
    12. Fa'auli
    13. Lienert-Brown
    14. Pulu
    15. Stevenson
    16. Polwart?
    17. is Mitchell Graham signed up?
    18. Moli
    19. Bird/Allardice/Brown
    20. Boshier/Karpick/Brown/Messam/Seu
    21. Weber/TTT
    22. Tiaan Falcon
    23. TNW
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    @tim I don't see McNicol's name in that list. Is he still under contract in 2018?

    And, can you remind me, which Brown is that at 5, 6 and 8?
    What about Boshier?

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      Haven't seen anything about a contract extension for McNicol. Also, he's been unavailable so often that I wouldn't want to count on him playing.

      Forgot about Boshier for the bench.

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      • TimT Tim

        Haven't seen anything about a contract extension for McNicol. Also, he's been unavailable so often that I wouldn't want to count on him playing.

        Forgot about Boshier for the bench.

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        @tim Yeah, it's such a waste. McNicol, when fit and healthy, is a hugely talented player and he could have gotten far if he hadn't been plagued by injury so often and for so long.

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          while I see no reason why Alaimalo wont go back to the Chiefs, I dont believe he is signed with anyone yet (initially only 1 year contract) but heard there are a few teams interested.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            while I see no reason why Alaimalo wont go back to the Chiefs, I dont believe he is signed with anyone yet (initially only 1 year contract) but heard there are a few teams interested.

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            @taniwharugby

            According to the following article he has been signed for next year too.

            Gone:
            Hika Elliot, Tom Sanders, Michael Leitch, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Finlay Christie, Aaron Cruden, Stephen Donald, James Lowe.

            Staying:
            2018: Liam Messam, Dominic Bird, Damian McKenzie, Charlie Ngatai, Tim Nanai-Williams, Toni Pulu, Solomon Alaimalo, Shaun Stevenson.

            2019: Kane Hames, Sosefo Kautai, Nathan Harris, Brodie Retallick, Michael Allardice, Taleni Seu, Mitchell Brown, Lachlan Boshier, Mitchell Karpik, Jonathan Taumateine.

            2020: Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Brad Weber, Anton Lienert-Brown.

            TBC:
            Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Mitchell Graham, Liam Polwart, James Tucker, Sam Cane, Sam McNicol, Glen Fisiiahi, Johnny Fa'auli, Chase Tiatia.

            Arriving:
            Tyler Ardron (till 2019), Luke Jacobson (till 2020), Tiaan Falcon (till 2019), Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (till 2019).

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/95717022/how-the-revamped-chiefs-are-shaping-up-for-super-rugby-in-2018

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            • TimT Tim

              @taniwharugby

              According to the following article he has been signed for next year too.

              Gone:
              Hika Elliot, Tom Sanders, Michael Leitch, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Finlay Christie, Aaron Cruden, Stephen Donald, James Lowe.

              Staying:
              2018: Liam Messam, Dominic Bird, Damian McKenzie, Charlie Ngatai, Tim Nanai-Williams, Toni Pulu, Solomon Alaimalo, Shaun Stevenson.

              2019: Kane Hames, Sosefo Kautai, Nathan Harris, Brodie Retallick, Michael Allardice, Taleni Seu, Mitchell Brown, Lachlan Boshier, Mitchell Karpik, Jonathan Taumateine.

              2020: Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Brad Weber, Anton Lienert-Brown.

              TBC:
              Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Mitchell Graham, Liam Polwart, James Tucker, Sam Cane, Sam McNicol, Glen Fisiiahi, Johnny Fa'auli, Chase Tiatia.

              Arriving:
              Tyler Ardron (till 2019), Luke Jacobson (till 2020), Tiaan Falcon (till 2019), Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (till 2019).

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/95717022/how-the-revamped-chiefs-are-shaping-up-for-super-rugby-in-2018

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              @tim ah ok, good for them and him...musta mis-heard what I had been told.

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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2017–18_Super_Rugby_transfers#Chiefs

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                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2017–18_Super_Rugby_transfers#Chiefs

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                  @mikedogz Do you know if Orbyn Leger has been signed?

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                    Not that I know of. I would imagine he will get a WTG contract at least and play in development games.

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                      Siegfried Fisi'ihoi is playing in France (with Stade Français).

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                        To me Stevenson looks like a winger that can play fullback and Alaimalo looks like a fullback that can play wing.

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                          Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

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                            Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

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                            @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                            Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                            I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously 🙂 ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

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                              @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                              Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                              I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously 🙂 ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

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                              @booboo said in Chiefs 2018:

                              @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                              Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                              I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously 🙂 ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

                              But your post isn't the first I've heard.

                              I hear the AB's have asked that he play 1st 5 which is against Colin Coopers wishes but I can't back that up as I can't for the life of me remember where I heard or read it.

                              I was hoping you would solve for me

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @booboo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                                I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously 🙂 ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

                                But your post isn't the first I've heard.

                                I hear the AB's have asked that he play 1st 5 which is against Colin Coopers wishes but I can't back that up as I can't for the life of me remember where I heard or read it.

                                I was hoping you would solve for me

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                                @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                @booboo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                                I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously 🙂 ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

                                But your post isn't the first I've heard.

                                I hear the AB's have asked that he play 1st 5 which is against Colin Coopers wishes but I can't back that up as I can't for the life of me remember where I heard or read it.

                                I was hoping you would solve for me

                                Interesting that Cooper picked DMac at 10 for the Maori vs the Lions then

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                  @booboo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                  @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                  Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                                  I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously 🙂 ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

                                  But your post isn't the first I've heard.

                                  I hear the AB's have asked that he play 1st 5 which is against Colin Coopers wishes but I can't back that up as I can't for the life of me remember where I heard or read it.

                                  I was hoping you would solve for me

                                  Interesting that Cooper picked DMac at 10 for the Maori vs the Lions then

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                                  @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

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                                    @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

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                                    @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                    @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

                                    You sure you're not thinking of Rennie, Nisbo?

                                    Wayne Smith has always been said to see DMac as a 10 and disagreed with Rennie playing him at 15 all the time, so no surprise if Hansen's thinking along the same lines too. I don't think we know what Cooper's planning yet but seeing as Cruden's gone and Beaver's been dropped (for shame!), there aren't exactly many options.

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                                      @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                      @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

                                      You sure you're not thinking of Rennie, Nisbo?

                                      Wayne Smith has always been said to see DMac as a 10 and disagreed with Rennie playing him at 15 all the time, so no surprise if Hansen's thinking along the same lines too. I don't think we know what Cooper's planning yet but seeing as Cruden's gone and Beaver's been dropped (for shame!), there aren't exactly many options.

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                                      @unco said in Chiefs 2018:

                                      @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                      @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

                                      You sure you're not thinking of Rennie, Nisbo?

                                      Wayne Smith has always been said to see DMac as a 10 and disagreed with Rennie playing him at 15 all the time, so no surprise if Hansen's thinking along the same lines too. I don't think we know what Cooper's planning yet but seeing as Cruden's gone and Beaver's been dropped (for shame!), there aren't exactly many options.

                                      I think if Wayne Smith was the coach of the Chiefs he would have been playing D Mac at 10 while Cruden was around too.

                                      He does look to be the starting 10 in the squad at this stage - is Falcon the only other 10? M Mac hasn't been signed up has he?

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @unco said in Chiefs 2018:

                                        @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                        @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

                                        You sure you're not thinking of Rennie, Nisbo?

                                        Wayne Smith has always been said to see DMac as a 10 and disagreed with Rennie playing him at 15 all the time, so no surprise if Hansen's thinking along the same lines too. I don't think we know what Cooper's planning yet but seeing as Cruden's gone and Beaver's been dropped (for shame!), there aren't exactly many options.

                                        I think if Wayne Smith was the coach of the Chiefs he would have been playing D Mac at 10 while Cruden was around too.

                                        He does look to be the starting 10 in the squad at this stage - is Falcon the only other 10? M Mac hasn't been signed up has he?

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                                        I think @Bovidae is usually the person with best inside knowledge @Hooroo.

                                        But, from memory the plan has been to use Dmac at 10, with Stevenson coming to FB (his preferred position).

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                                          I hope DMac does get a full uninjured season at 10 just so we can all see how he may work in the future in the ABs.
                                          I have seen glimpses when he comes in at first receiver and he has a good accurate kicking game. It is his distribution I am more concerned about. A bit like BB he tends to pass a bit early or a bit late. Doesn't have that perfect timing that the likes of DC had.
                                          The squad selection so far certainly points toward a lot be banked on him at 10.
                                          In a way he is a better version of TNW and I sometimes wish Timmy had been pushed toward 10 more. He was quite a good 10 that could have developed into a very good 10 if it wasn't for coaches wanting to use his broken play skills more.

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