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    Tim
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    Haven't seen anything about a contract extension for McNicol. Also, he's been unavailable so often that I wouldn't want to count on him playing.

    Forgot about Boshier for the bench.

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      Haven't seen anything about a contract extension for McNicol. Also, he's been unavailable so often that I wouldn't want to count on him playing.

      Forgot about Boshier for the bench.

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      @tim Yeah, it's such a waste. McNicol, when fit and healthy, is a hugely talented player and he could have gotten far if he hadn't been plagued by injury so often and for so long.

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        #6

        while I see no reason why Alaimalo wont go back to the Chiefs, I dont believe he is signed with anyone yet (initially only 1 year contract) but heard there are a few teams interested.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          while I see no reason why Alaimalo wont go back to the Chiefs, I dont believe he is signed with anyone yet (initially only 1 year contract) but heard there are a few teams interested.

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          @taniwharugby

          According to the following article he has been signed for next year too.

          Gone:
          Hika Elliot, Tom Sanders, Michael Leitch, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Finlay Christie, Aaron Cruden, Stephen Donald, James Lowe.

          Staying:
          2018: Liam Messam, Dominic Bird, Damian McKenzie, Charlie Ngatai, Tim Nanai-Williams, Toni Pulu, Solomon Alaimalo, Shaun Stevenson.

          2019: Kane Hames, Sosefo Kautai, Nathan Harris, Brodie Retallick, Michael Allardice, Taleni Seu, Mitchell Brown, Lachlan Boshier, Mitchell Karpik, Jonathan Taumateine.

          2020: Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Brad Weber, Anton Lienert-Brown.

          TBC:
          Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Mitchell Graham, Liam Polwart, James Tucker, Sam Cane, Sam McNicol, Glen Fisiiahi, Johnny Fa'auli, Chase Tiatia.

          Arriving:
          Tyler Ardron (till 2019), Luke Jacobson (till 2020), Tiaan Falcon (till 2019), Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (till 2019).

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/95717022/how-the-revamped-chiefs-are-shaping-up-for-super-rugby-in-2018

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            @taniwharugby

            According to the following article he has been signed for next year too.

            Gone:
            Hika Elliot, Tom Sanders, Michael Leitch, Tawera Kerr-Barlow, Finlay Christie, Aaron Cruden, Stephen Donald, James Lowe.

            Staying:
            2018: Liam Messam, Dominic Bird, Damian McKenzie, Charlie Ngatai, Tim Nanai-Williams, Toni Pulu, Solomon Alaimalo, Shaun Stevenson.

            2019: Kane Hames, Sosefo Kautai, Nathan Harris, Brodie Retallick, Michael Allardice, Taleni Seu, Mitchell Brown, Lachlan Boshier, Mitchell Karpik, Jonathan Taumateine.

            2020: Nepo Laulala, Atu Moli, Brad Weber, Anton Lienert-Brown.

            TBC:
            Siegfried Fisi'ihoi, Mitchell Graham, Liam Polwart, James Tucker, Sam Cane, Sam McNicol, Glen Fisiiahi, Johnny Fa'auli, Chase Tiatia.

            Arriving:
            Tyler Ardron (till 2019), Luke Jacobson (till 2020), Tiaan Falcon (till 2019), Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi (till 2019).

            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/95717022/how-the-revamped-chiefs-are-shaping-up-for-super-rugby-in-2018

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            @tim ah ok, good for them and him...musta mis-heard what I had been told.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2017–18_Super_Rugby_transfers#Chiefs

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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2017–18_Super_Rugby_transfers#Chiefs

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                @mikedogz Do you know if Orbyn Leger has been signed?

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                  Not that I know of. I would imagine he will get a WTG contract at least and play in development games.

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                    Siegfried Fisi'ihoi is playing in France (with Stade FranΓ§ais).

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                      Chiefy07
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                      To me Stevenson looks like a winger that can play fullback and Alaimalo looks like a fullback that can play wing.

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                        Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

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                        • HoorooH Hooroo

                          Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

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                          @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                          Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                          I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously πŸ™‚ ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

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                            @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                            Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                            I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously πŸ™‚ ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

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                            @booboo said in Chiefs 2018:

                            @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                            Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                            I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously πŸ™‚ ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

                            But your post isn't the first I've heard.

                            I hear the AB's have asked that he play 1st 5 which is against Colin Coopers wishes but I can't back that up as I can't for the life of me remember where I heard or read it.

                            I was hoping you would solve for me

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                            • HoorooH Hooroo

                              @booboo said in Chiefs 2018:

                              @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                              Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                              I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously πŸ™‚ ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

                              But your post isn't the first I've heard.

                              I hear the AB's have asked that he play 1st 5 which is against Colin Coopers wishes but I can't back that up as I can't for the life of me remember where I heard or read it.

                              I was hoping you would solve for me

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                              @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                              @booboo said in Chiefs 2018:

                              @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                              Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                              I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously πŸ™‚ ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

                              But your post isn't the first I've heard.

                              I hear the AB's have asked that he play 1st 5 which is against Colin Coopers wishes but I can't back that up as I can't for the life of me remember where I heard or read it.

                              I was hoping you would solve for me

                              Interesting that Cooper picked DMac at 10 for the Maori vs the Lions then

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                @booboo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                Is it rumour or fact that DMac is playing 10 in 2018 for The Chiefs?

                                I'm not answering as I have no idea (obviously πŸ™‚ ) but (genuine question: who are the other options? Falcon (from @Tim 's post above)? And?

                                But your post isn't the first I've heard.

                                I hear the AB's have asked that he play 1st 5 which is against Colin Coopers wishes but I can't back that up as I can't for the life of me remember where I heard or read it.

                                I was hoping you would solve for me

                                Interesting that Cooper picked DMac at 10 for the Maori vs the Lions then

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                                Hooroo
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                                @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

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                                • HoorooH Hooroo

                                  @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

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                                  @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                  @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

                                  You sure you're not thinking of Rennie, Nisbo?

                                  Wayne Smith has always been said to see DMac as a 10 and disagreed with Rennie playing him at 15 all the time, so no surprise if Hansen's thinking along the same lines too. I don't think we know what Cooper's planning yet but seeing as Cruden's gone and Beaver's been dropped (for shame!), there aren't exactly many options.

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                                    @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                    @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

                                    You sure you're not thinking of Rennie, Nisbo?

                                    Wayne Smith has always been said to see DMac as a 10 and disagreed with Rennie playing him at 15 all the time, so no surprise if Hansen's thinking along the same lines too. I don't think we know what Cooper's planning yet but seeing as Cruden's gone and Beaver's been dropped (for shame!), there aren't exactly many options.

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                                    @unco said in Chiefs 2018:

                                    @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                    @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

                                    You sure you're not thinking of Rennie, Nisbo?

                                    Wayne Smith has always been said to see DMac as a 10 and disagreed with Rennie playing him at 15 all the time, so no surprise if Hansen's thinking along the same lines too. I don't think we know what Cooper's planning yet but seeing as Cruden's gone and Beaver's been dropped (for shame!), there aren't exactly many options.

                                    I think if Wayne Smith was the coach of the Chiefs he would have been playing D Mac at 10 while Cruden was around too.

                                    He does look to be the starting 10 in the squad at this stage - is Falcon the only other 10? M Mac hasn't been signed up has he?

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @unco said in Chiefs 2018:

                                      @hooroo said in Chiefs 2018:

                                      @kiwimurph solid point! Maybe I have it the other way round?!?

                                      You sure you're not thinking of Rennie, Nisbo?

                                      Wayne Smith has always been said to see DMac as a 10 and disagreed with Rennie playing him at 15 all the time, so no surprise if Hansen's thinking along the same lines too. I don't think we know what Cooper's planning yet but seeing as Cruden's gone and Beaver's been dropped (for shame!), there aren't exactly many options.

                                      I think if Wayne Smith was the coach of the Chiefs he would have been playing D Mac at 10 while Cruden was around too.

                                      He does look to be the starting 10 in the squad at this stage - is Falcon the only other 10? M Mac hasn't been signed up has he?

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                                      I think @Bovidae is usually the person with best inside knowledge @Hooroo.

                                      But, from memory the plan has been to use Dmac at 10, with Stevenson coming to FB (his preferred position).

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                                        I hope DMac does get a full uninjured season at 10 just so we can all see how he may work in the future in the ABs.
                                        I have seen glimpses when he comes in at first receiver and he has a good accurate kicking game. It is his distribution I am more concerned about. A bit like BB he tends to pass a bit early or a bit late. Doesn't have that perfect timing that the likes of DC had.
                                        The squad selection so far certainly points toward a lot be banked on him at 10.
                                        In a way he is a better version of TNW and I sometimes wish Timmy had been pushed toward 10 more. He was quite a good 10 that could have developed into a very good 10 if it wasn't for coaches wanting to use his broken play skills more.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          What's your first choice XXIII going to be? I'm hesitant to assume that Ngatai will be available for > 50% of games.

                                          1. Hames
                                          2. Harris
                                          3. Laulala
                                          4. Retallick
                                          5. Bird/Allardice/Brown
                                          6. Seu/Brown
                                          7. Cane
                                          8. Brown/Messam
                                          9. TTT/Weber
                                          10. McKenzie
                                          11. Alaimalo
                                          12. Fa'auli
                                          13. Lienert-Brown
                                          14. Pulu
                                          15. Stevenson
                                          16. Polwart?
                                          17. is Mitchell Graham signed up?
                                          18. Moli
                                          19. Bird/Allardice/Brown
                                          20. Boshier/Karpick/Brown/Messam/Seu
                                          21. Weber/TTT
                                          22. Tiaan Falcon
                                          23. TNW
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                                          @tim

                                          Seu is set for a huge year I feel, so can only see Mitch Brown as a reserve at best. Bird must be starting lock and Webber halfback. I don't see Fa'auli and Pulu as starters. Sure hope that Ngatai is raring to go, as I have not seen enough vision or accuracy from Fa'auli.

                                          The reserve depth is very shallow in my opinion, except for prop where we have at least 4 goodies. I do like Boshier though and hope James Tucker can stay on the field and deliver his promise. Also hoping that they sign Taukei'aho and develop him as an explosive ball-carrier.

                                          The Chiefs need to sign up a powerful winger and centre as the backs are too light throughout. Tamanivalu is badly missed. Maybe Sevu Reece will make the grade quickly, and maybe Nigel Ah Wong will be considered, but I certainly would like to see McNicol fit again! But no sign of the power player that drags in 3 defenders.

                                          I am rather disappointed by the signings so far. Ardron?? Tough on folks like Parete and Manihera. I would also like to see Donald or Delaney on the bench as a flyhalf who can control the latter stages and get Chiefs to the right end of the pitch. Fingers crossed there. Richard Judd has impressed me more in ITM Cup than TTT or Taumeteine, so shame there. Also wonder about Karpik signed ahead while Mitch Jacobson has no contract.

                                          It will be very interesting to see who gets the remaining berths in the squad. But, without a bruising three-quarter from overseas I fear a struggle to avoid fifth in NZ conference.

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