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ABs v Scotland

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    Squire is starting the midweek game so unlikely he'd start the test also?

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      He hasn't played for a while and probably needs the run to get him ready for Scotland.

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        Squire is starting the midweek game so unlikely he'd start the test also?

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        @kiwimurph Will probably depend on how minutes he'll play in the midweek game.

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          Scots team looking solid. Probably their most dangerous back three....well....ever ( I do get that this is a relative term ) and a solid midfield and poor man's Beauden Barrett in Finn Russell at 10. Not many hard men or ball carriers in their pack but they're definitely a team on the up.

          As per usual I'll predict a gutsy 20 point loss.

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            Scots team looking solid. Probably their most dangerous back three....well....ever ( I do get that this is a relative term ) and a solid midfield and poor man's Beauden Barrett in Finn Russell at 10. Not many hard men or ball carriers in their pack but they're definitely a team on the up.

            As per usual I'll predict a gutsy 20 point loss.

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            @mn5 what is a gutsy loss? 😉

            The French lost by 20 points, how would you describe that loss? Lucky? Unlucky? Gutsy? Typically French?

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @mn5 what is a gutsy loss? 😉

              The French lost by 20 points, how would you describe that loss? Lucky? Unlucky? Gutsy? Typically French?

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              @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

              @mn5 what is a gutsy loss? 😉

              The French lost by 20 points, how would you describe that loss? Lucky? Unlucky? Gutsy? Typically French?

              Between the Black Caps and Scottish Rugby teams I get gutsy losses all year round.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                @mn5 what is a gutsy loss? 😉

                The French lost by 20 points, how would you describe that loss? Lucky? Unlucky? Gutsy? Typically French?

                Between the Black Caps and Scottish Rugby teams I get gutsy losses all year round.

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                @mn5 said in ABs v Scotland:

                @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                @mn5 what is a gutsy loss? 😉

                The French lost by 20 points, how would you describe that loss? Lucky? Unlucky? Gutsy? Typically French?

                Between the Black Caps and Scottish Rugby teams I get gutsy losses all year round.

                Indian ODI and T20 not excepted

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                  @mn5 what is a gutsy loss? 😉

                  The French lost by 20 points, how would you describe that loss? Lucky? Unlucky? Gutsy? Typically French?

                  Between the Black Caps and Scottish Rugby teams I get gutsy losses all year round.

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                  @mn5 is gutsy different to plucky, brave or courageous? Poor Celts 😉

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @mn5 is gutsy different to plucky, brave or courageous? Poor Celts 😉

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                    @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                    @mn5 is gutsy different to plucky, brave or courageous? Poor Celts 😉

                    It's all of the above but don't forget tenacious and dogged too....

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                      #12

                      Scotland 44 - Samoa 38
                      All Blacks 78 - Samoa 0.
                      'nuf said.

                      Like to see
                      Hames
                      Taylor
                      Laulala
                      Whitelock
                      Romano
                      Cane
                      Todd
                      Read
                      Smith
                      BBarrett
                      Ioane
                      Crotty
                      SBW
                      Naholo
                      Havili
                      Bench:
                      Ofa
                      Aumua (but suspect it'll be Harris)
                      Crockett
                      SBarrett
                      Squire (won't start coz playing game v French XV)
                      TKB
                      DMac
                      ALB

                      Really want Dmac to start playing the 10/15 role. If we're up by heaps with 25 to go, he can go into 10 for Beauden. Otherwise he comes on for Havili about then. And Beaudy stays at 10. All game. No more 15 for Beaudy.

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                      • westcoastieW westcoastie

                        Scotland 44 - Samoa 38
                        All Blacks 78 - Samoa 0.
                        'nuf said.

                        Like to see
                        Hames
                        Taylor
                        Laulala
                        Whitelock
                        Romano
                        Cane
                        Todd
                        Read
                        Smith
                        BBarrett
                        Ioane
                        Crotty
                        SBW
                        Naholo
                        Havili
                        Bench:
                        Ofa
                        Aumua (but suspect it'll be Harris)
                        Crockett
                        SBarrett
                        Squire (won't start coz playing game v French XV)
                        TKB
                        DMac
                        ALB

                        Really want Dmac to start playing the 10/15 role. If we're up by heaps with 25 to go, he can go into 10 for Beauden. Otherwise he comes on for Havili about then. And Beaudy stays at 10. All game. No more 15 for Beaudy.

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                        @westcoastie said in ABs v Scotland:

                        Really want Dmac to start playing the 10/15 role. If we're up by heaps with 25 to go, he can go into 10 for Beauden.

                        Ahh no. He can learn to play 10 at Super level first.

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                        • westcoastieW westcoastie

                          Scotland 44 - Samoa 38
                          All Blacks 78 - Samoa 0.
                          'nuf said.

                          Like to see
                          Hames
                          Taylor
                          Laulala
                          Whitelock
                          Romano
                          Cane
                          Todd
                          Read
                          Smith
                          BBarrett
                          Ioane
                          Crotty
                          SBW
                          Naholo
                          Havili
                          Bench:
                          Ofa
                          Aumua (but suspect it'll be Harris)
                          Crockett
                          SBarrett
                          Squire (won't start coz playing game v French XV)
                          TKB
                          DMac
                          ALB

                          Really want Dmac to start playing the 10/15 role. If we're up by heaps with 25 to go, he can go into 10 for Beauden. Otherwise he comes on for Havili about then. And Beaudy stays at 10. All game. No more 15 for Beaudy.

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                          @westcoastie not sure if deliberate but you have SBW/Crotty round the wrong way.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @westcoastie not sure if deliberate but you have SBW/Crotty round the wrong way.

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                            @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                            @westcoastie not sure if deliberate but you have SBW/Crotty round the wrong way.

                            yup thats deliberate, I'd rather see Crotty at 12, SBW 13.

                            @antipodean said in ABs v Scotland:

                            @westcoastie said in ABs v Scotland:

                            Really want Dmac to start playing the 10/15 role. If we're up by heaps with 25 to go, he can go into 10 for Beauden.

                            Ahh no. He can learn to play 10 at Super level first.

                            Then its Sopoaga on the bench. But I expect him to not pay this week.

                            The selectors can afford to be a little looser with the first choice squad seeing as its just Scotland. They'll want to target the Welsh game with a statement performance.

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                              @taniwharugby said in ABs v Scotland:

                              @westcoastie not sure if deliberate but you have SBW/Crotty round the wrong way.

                              yup thats deliberate, I'd rather see Crotty at 12, SBW 13.

                              @antipodean said in ABs v Scotland:

                              @westcoastie said in ABs v Scotland:

                              Really want Dmac to start playing the 10/15 role. If we're up by heaps with 25 to go, he can go into 10 for Beauden.

                              Ahh no. He can learn to play 10 at Super level first.

                              Then its Sopoaga on the bench. But I expect him to not pay this week.

                              The selectors can afford to be a little looser with the first choice squad seeing as its just Scotland. They'll want to target the Welsh game with a statement performance.

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                              @westcoastie if you're gonna move Crotty in, I'd be inclined to run Goodhue at 13 (or ALB obviously) dont think SBW has performed as well at 13 as he does at 12.

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                                I thought SBW/Crotty worked better than it has all season - until the obvious.

                                Shag obviously considers the combination our best option. In which case I'm all in favour of them having as much time together as possible

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                                  @dogmeat @taniwharugby
                                  If I was selector, I'd move SBW to bench. Maybe drop him for being an egg. Happy to give Goodhue a go. (although he too is playing vs French XV)
                                  yes combo did work better v French than at any other time recently.
                                  It'll end up being SBW 12, Crotty 13. But yeh, I'd like the other way around

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                                    I thought SBW/Crotty worked better than it has all season - until the obvious.

                                    Shag obviously considers the combination our best option. In which case I'm all in favour of them having as much time together as possible

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                                    @dogmeat said in ABs v Scotland:

                                    I thought SBW/Crotty worked better than it has all season - until the obvious.

                                    Shag obviously considers the combination our best option. In which case I'm all in favour of them having as much time together as possible

                                    Agree, the SBW/Crotty combo was the highlight of the first half for me, and given the second half probably the highlight of the game bar Whitelock and Cane getting shit done on behalf of the rest of the team in the final 30 minutes.

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                                      Crotty and Sonny Bill interchanged a bit in attack during the first half. It looked a bit different to what we've seen from the two.

                                      Last year we saw when Crotty and ALB combined, they interchanged a bit and it looked the goods. They combined well with Barrett as well.

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                                        The combination of Crotty/Crotty functioned impressively when it was tried for a short period.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          Crotty and Sonny Bill interchanged a bit in attack during the first half. It looked a bit different to what we've seen from the two.

                                          Last year we saw when Crotty and ALB combined, they interchanged a bit and it looked the goods. They combined well with Barrett as well.

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                                          @act-crusader said in ABs v Scotland:

                                          Crotty and Sonny Bill interchanged a bit in attack during the first half. It looked a bit different to what we've seen from the two.

                                          Last year we saw when Crotty and ALB combined, they interchanged a bit and it looked the goods. They combined well with Barrett as well.

                                          This is what I was talking about in another thread about how the persistence from the selectors is all around getting SBW comfortable playing a multi skilled role (eg Nonu).
                                          We saw good signs in that game especially the quality kick through for the try.

                                          Shag is not going to throw away his development plan because some reacts instinctively to a rare situation.

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