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ABs v Scotland

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    The matchday 23 features just two changes from the team which beat France 39-18 in Paris last weekend: Codie Taylor comes in at hooker for the injured Dane Coles, with Nathan Harris on the bench, and Liam Squire comes onto the bench in the 19 jersey.
    All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen said: “This Test against Scotland will be an opportunity for this group of players to take on the challenge of raising the bar on performance which was set down by their teammates on Tuesday.
    “Scotland will be a formidable opponent who, from all indications, will be looking to play skilful rugby and an up-tempo game. Therefore, we will need to meet this challenge head on and be prepared to empty the tank and exert our own pressure upon them through both our physicality, our own tempo in the game and executing our skills at the highest level.
    Hansen further said: “We look forward to playing at Murrayfield. It is one of the iconic grounds in world rugby and there is a lot of history between the two countries. Scotland, as always, has been a great country to tour and visit, and the people are always welcoming and hospitable.”

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      I assume Fifita covers lock.

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        No real surprises. No Barrett (S) presumably means Read or Fifita cover lock.

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          Question: 4 of the players in this test played in the same NZ club side. Who are they and which club?
          SammyC will know.

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            Question: 4 of the players in this test played in the same NZ club side. Who are they and which club?
            SammyC will know.

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            @wally said in ABs v Scotland:

            Question: 4 of the players in this test played in the same NZ club side. Who are they and which club?
            SammyC will know.

            Can assume they are cantabs (or cantab recruits) then.

            DMac and ALB are both Waikato Uni as well

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              Here is a run down of the Scottish selection, I've focused on the positives

              1. Daryll Marfo – there has been a terrible affliction sweeping through Scottish looseheads of late and the last two standing are in this side. There are four players at least ahead of him in the pecking order but he aquitted himself very well in his first cap against Samoa

              2. Stuart McInally – a converted backrow player, he has come on leaps and bounds under Richard Cockerill’s tutelage at Edinburgh this season.

              3. Zander Fagerson – 21 years old, he already has well over 50 senior games under his belt and will win his 14th cap on Saturday.

              4. Ben Toolis – very athletic lineout specialist, is good around the park

              5. Jonny Gray – the younger of the two Grays, he is a machine, a real work horse who makes a ridiculous number of tackles. He is adding a bit of carrying power to his game.

              6. John Barclay – captain, the veteran backrower is a menace at the breakdown and a good link player.

              7. Hamish Watson – pocket battleship, he should not be able to get through as many defenders as he does.

              8. Cornell du Preez – at 1.92m and 118kg he was obviously far too small to make it in South Africa so he took his trade north. If he gets his game going expect him to sit a few men on their arses and complete a few sexy offloads.

              9. Ali Price – nippy little scrum half who is always looking to put pace on the game, has a decent pass.

              10. Finn Russell – ah Finn, always plays with a smile on his face, he is not a game manager so much as a game breaker – watch for a hard flat pass across the defence.

              11. Lee Jones – not the biggest winger in rugby, but he knows his way to the line at club level.

              12. Alex Dunbar – good over the ball and straightens the line, showed no little power for his try last week

              13. Huw Jones – you guys will know him from Super Rugby, has good feet

              14. Tommy Seymour – one of our best players, good hard runner, very good under a high ball

              15. Stuart Hogg – fast, has an eye for the mismatch in front of him and the pace to get there

              16. George Turner – lightweight but very good rugby player

              17. James Bhatti – young loosehead learning his trade

              18. Simon Berghan – good Scottish stock, all the way from Christchurch

              19. Grant Gilchrist – working his way back from injury which stalled a rise to greatness

              20. Luke Hamilton – hardyards ball carrier

              21. Henry Pyrgos – sigh

              22. Peter Horne – best position is a playmaking 12

              23. Byron McGuigan – has a fair bit of pace, uncapped.

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              @talisker said in ABs v Scotland:

              Here is a run down of the Scottish selection, I've focused on the positives

              1. Daryll Marfo – there has been a terrible affliction sweeping through Scottish looseheads of late and the last two standing are in this side. There are four players at least ahead of him in the pecking order but he aquitted himself very well in his first cap against Samoa

              2. Stuart McInally – a converted backrow player, he has come on leaps and bounds under Richard Cockerill’s tutelage at Edinburgh this season.

              3. Zander Fagerson – 21 years old, he already has well over 50 senior games under his belt and will win his 14th cap on Saturday.

              4. Ben Toolis – very athletic lineout specialist, is good around the park

              5. Jonny Gray – the younger of the two Grays, he is a machine, a real work horse who makes a ridiculous number of tackles. He is adding a bit of carrying power to his game.

              6. John Barclay – captain, the veteran backrower is a menace at the breakdown and a good link player.

              7. Hamish Watson – pocket battleship, he should not be able to get through as many defenders as he does.

              8. Cornell du Preez – at 1.92m and 118kg he was obviously far too small to make it in South Africa so he took his trade north. If he gets his game going expect him to sit a few men on their arses and complete a few sexy offloads.

              9. Ali Price – nippy little scrum half who is always looking to put pace on the game, has a decent pass.

              10. Finn Russell – ah Finn, always plays with a smile on his face, he is not a game manager so much as a game breaker – watch for a hard flat pass across the defence.

              11. Lee Jones – not the biggest winger in rugby, but he knows his way to the line at club level.

              12. Alex Dunbar – good over the ball and straightens the line, showed no little power for his try last week

              13. Huw Jones – you guys will know him from Super Rugby, has good feet

              14. Tommy Seymour – one of our best players, good hard runner, very good under a high ball

              15. Stuart Hogg – fast, has an eye for the mismatch in front of him and the pace to get there

              16. George Turner – lightweight but very good rugby player

              17. James Bhatti – young loosehead learning his trade

              18. Simon Berghan – good Scottish stock, all the way from Christchurch

              19. Grant Gilchrist – working his way back from injury which stalled a rise to greatness

              20. Luke Hamilton – hardyards ball carrier

              21. Henry Pyrgos – sigh

              22. Peter Horne – best position is a playmaking 12

              23. Byron McGuigan – has a fair bit of pace, uncapped.

              What happened to Ryan Wilson ? ( not that I particularly rate him )

              Aw and Tim Visser too....

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                @talisker said in ABs v Scotland:

                Here is a run down of the Scottish selection, I've focused on the positives

                1. Daryll Marfo – there has been a terrible affliction sweeping through Scottish looseheads of late and the last two standing are in this side. There are four players at least ahead of him in the pecking order but he aquitted himself very well in his first cap against Samoa

                2. Stuart McInally – a converted backrow player, he has come on leaps and bounds under Richard Cockerill’s tutelage at Edinburgh this season.

                3. Zander Fagerson – 21 years old, he already has well over 50 senior games under his belt and will win his 14th cap on Saturday.

                4. Ben Toolis – very athletic lineout specialist, is good around the park

                5. Jonny Gray – the younger of the two Grays, he is a machine, a real work horse who makes a ridiculous number of tackles. He is adding a bit of carrying power to his game.

                6. John Barclay – captain, the veteran backrower is a menace at the breakdown and a good link player.

                7. Hamish Watson – pocket battleship, he should not be able to get through as many defenders as he does.

                8. Cornell du Preez – at 1.92m and 118kg he was obviously far too small to make it in South Africa so he took his trade north. If he gets his game going expect him to sit a few men on their arses and complete a few sexy offloads.

                9. Ali Price – nippy little scrum half who is always looking to put pace on the game, has a decent pass.

                10. Finn Russell – ah Finn, always plays with a smile on his face, he is not a game manager so much as a game breaker – watch for a hard flat pass across the defence.

                11. Lee Jones – not the biggest winger in rugby, but he knows his way to the line at club level.

                12. Alex Dunbar – good over the ball and straightens the line, showed no little power for his try last week

                13. Huw Jones – you guys will know him from Super Rugby, has good feet

                14. Tommy Seymour – one of our best players, good hard runner, very good under a high ball

                15. Stuart Hogg – fast, has an eye for the mismatch in front of him and the pace to get there

                16. George Turner – lightweight but very good rugby player

                17. James Bhatti – young loosehead learning his trade

                18. Simon Berghan – good Scottish stock, all the way from Christchurch

                19. Grant Gilchrist – working his way back from injury which stalled a rise to greatness

                20. Luke Hamilton – hardyards ball carrier

                21. Henry Pyrgos – sigh

                22. Peter Horne – best position is a playmaking 12

                23. Byron McGuigan – has a fair bit of pace, uncapped.

                What happened to Ryan Wilson ? ( not that I particularly rate him )

                Aw and Tim Visser too....

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                @mn5 I seem to recall Wilson injured.

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                  yeah, pakman, Wilson did his shoulder in against Samoa. Townsend rates him, he always picked him for Glasgow's big games. He blows hot and cold, he doesn't have the bulk to be a proper bosher. but he has good hands. I prefer Du Preez at 8, or Strauss who has been left out of the squad altogether.

                  Visser didn't make the squad at all, I can't see the logic there at all, tbh

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                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98978449/all-blacks-lock-patrick-tuipulotu-facing-trip-to-judiciary-after-citing-in-lyon

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98978449/all-blacks-lock-patrick-tuipulotu-facing-trip-to-judiciary-after-citing-in-lyon

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                      @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98978449/all-blacks-lock-patrick-tuipulotu-facing-trip-to-judiciary-after-citing-in-lyon

                      Not surprising.

                      As I said at the time was surprised he wasn't carded.

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                        @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98978449/all-blacks-lock-patrick-tuipulotu-facing-trip-to-judiciary-after-citing-in-lyon

                        Not surprising.

                        As I said at the time was surprised he wasn't carded.

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                        @booboo is this the tackle where he planted his feet and the Frenchman crashed into him?

                        There was nothing wrong with it, Tuipulotu was set and ready for the impact, not his fault that the attacker then lowered his body position and therefore copped one on the chin.

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                          @booboo is this the tackle where he planted his feet and the Frenchman crashed into him?

                          There was nothing wrong with it, Tuipulotu was set and ready for the impact, not his fault that the attacker then lowered his body position and therefore copped one on the chin.

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                          @gunner new laws. Impact with the head with force and all that.

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                            looks like the French guy is biting his shoulder

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                              @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98978449/all-blacks-lock-patrick-tuipulotu-facing-trip-to-judiciary-after-citing-in-lyon

                              Not surprising.

                              As I said at the time was surprised he wasn't carded.

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                              @booboo said in ABs v Scotland:

                              @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/98978449/all-blacks-lock-patrick-tuipulotu-facing-trip-to-judiciary-after-citing-in-lyon

                              Not surprising.

                              As I said at the time was surprised he wasn't carded.

                              I watched this game on a French channel. The commentators went ballistic at the time saying it was a red card etc.

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                                He'll get time.
                                It wasn't his fault that the french player went in low and leading with the head, and would probably have a good case if it wasn't for a late arm wrap that make it look like a shoulder charge

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                                  @wally said in ABs v Scotland:

                                  Question: 4 of the players in this test played in the same NZ club side. Who are they and which club?
                                  SammyC will know.

                                  Can assume they are cantabs (or cantab recruits) then.

                                  DMac and ALB are both Waikato Uni as well

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                                  @crucial Nepo Laulala,Cody Taylor, Simon Berghan and Jonny Gray (age 18 on a rugby scholarship) all played for Sydenham in 2012.

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                                    Is it the French players fault that Tuipulotu wasn't lower?

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                                      Would be good if Bird hadn't rushed to fly back.

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                                        Would be good if Bird hadn't rushed to fly back.

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                                        @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

                                        Would be good if Bird hadn't rushed to fly back.

                                        He's still a fair way down the pecking order

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                                          @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

                                          Would be good if Bird hadn't rushed to fly back.

                                          He's still a fair way down the pecking order

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