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Blues 2018

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  • TimT Tim

    @kiwimurph If he can't make the playoffs, and finish 4th or higher in the NZ conference, then he will rightly be fired. Three years is plenty of time to put together a decent team. All future coaches must have a big win under their belt before applying.

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    @tim Normally I'd say that's tough given the dog squads the Blues can pull together these days, but I think that the Chiefs and Highlanders have a drop off in squad strength which makes top 4 a realistic goal for the Blues.

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    • NepiaN Nepia

      @tim Normally I'd say that's tough given the dog squads the Blues can pull together these days, but I think that the Chiefs and Highlanders have a drop off in squad strength which makes top 4 a realistic goal for the Blues.

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      @nepia Auckland's issues might have been a mitigating factor, but North Harbour and Northland have had a renaissance. Also compare to the success of the Hurricanes vs. Wellington, Highlanders vs Otago, and Chiefs vs Waikato.

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      • TimT Tim

        @kiwimurph If he can't make the playoffs, and finish 4th or higher in the NZ conference, then he will rightly be fired. Three years is plenty of time to put together a decent team. All future coaches must have a big win under their belt before applying.

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        @tim I think Tana will be given plenty of latitude, not least because the Blues will be looking at stability given the chopping and changing of coaches over recent years, barring a major capitulation (losing to Sunwolves again...) and finishing in the bottom few, I cant see him getting the flick.

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          @tim said in Blues 2018:

          Likely XXIII:

          1. Hodgman
          2. Parsons
          3. Tu'ungafasi
          4. Tuipulotu
          5. Scrafton
          6. Kaino
          7. Gibson
          8. Ioane
          9. Pulu
          10. Perofeta
            -- now the speculation starts --
          11. Ioane
          12. Faiane
          13. SBW
          14. Nanai
          15. Duffie
            -- reserves are more predictable --
          16. Moulds
          17. Manu
          18. Tamoaieta
          19. Cowley-Tuioti
          20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
          21. Nock
          22. Gatland
          23. Moala

          Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

          I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

          Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

          Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

          Tana Umaga will surely include Collins somewhere.

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          @cgrant said in Blues 2018:

          @tim said in Blues 2018:

          Likely XXIII:

          1. Hodgman
          2. Parsons
          3. Tu'ungafasi
          4. Tuipulotu
          5. Scrafton
          6. Kaino
          7. Gibson
          8. Ioane
          9. Pulu
          10. Perofeta
            -- now the speculation starts --
          11. Ioane
          12. Faiane
          13. SBW
          14. Nanai
          15. Duffie
            -- reserves are more predictable --
          16. Moulds
          17. Manu
          18. Tamoaieta
          19. Cowley-Tuioti
          20. Pryor/Papali'i/Taramai
          21. Nock
          22. Gatland
          23. Moala

          Key question for the starting line-up: when is Scrafton back from injury. We rely on him heavily for set piece proficiency and organisation. We need an able replacement for that role.

          I really like those tight-five replacements to put some heat on at set-piece in the 2nd half. It'd be great to have a ball-carrying 8 on the bench, especially with Kaino likely to have a lighter workload.

          Midfield combo will be a big selection question. A lot of talent outside them.

          Pulu's form may be the key. Really hoping for a big year from Nock.

          Tana Umaga will surely include Collins somewhere.

          Yup. With Collins in there, I would go with:

          1. Nanai
          2. SBW
          3. Ioane
          4. Duffie
          5. Collins

          Hopefully Collins will improve like Duffie.

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            Maybe the selectors see in Ofa T a LHP rather than a THP as the cupboard is rather bare on the left side of the scrum (Moody, Hames and an ageing Crockett) while there are best THP than him (Franks, Laulala with Moli and Fidow developping well).
            Hodgman should have a great year and I expect him to make the ABs very soon.
            Salmon is a good prospect. He did well when Ta$man had their first choice THP injured. He's far more athletic than Tamoaieta and Mafileo who don't look suited to the rythm of SR.

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              #149

              Reserve judgement on the last two until you see what training full time in a professional environment under close supervision by the trainers can do. You can see the super players are a fair way ahead fitness and physique-wise of the standard Mitre10 Cup players during that competition so give them a chance please.

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                Ofa will be valuable to the ABs if he keeps a shoulder on both sides of the scrum.
                RWC squads love a versatile prop that can get you through a pool game without calling for a replacement over a short term injury.

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                  King Carlos returns!
                  Carlos Spencer will play in the Brisbane 10's as the Blues wild card selection.

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                    #152

                    http://theblues.co.nz/blues-train-future-prospects/#

                    Blues assistant coaches Al Rogers and Dave Ellis delivered skills coaching before the players received positional coaching from former Blues Slade McFarland (#58), Eroni Clarke (#13), Aukusitino Junior Poluleuligaga (#135) and expert coaches Ben Afeaki, Steven Bates, Al Rogers and Daniel Halangahu.

                    Good to see Ben Afeaki back involved with rugby. Steven Bates works with the Harbour U19 team (as a "Technocal Advisor" according to his linkedin page). Harbour finished 3rd at the Jock Hobbs tournament.

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                      #153

                      Scott Stevenson and Mils talk to James Parsons (recovering from shoulder surgery) on Rugby Pass's podcast.

                      https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PB7DB96D86TQE

                      Some interesting stuff about team culture at the Blues there. That loss to the Crusaders still hurts.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        Scott Stevenson and Mils talk to James Parsons (recovering from shoulder surgery) on Rugby Pass's podcast.

                        https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PB7DB96D86TQE

                        Some interesting stuff about team culture at the Blues there. That loss to the Crusaders still hurts.

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                        #154

                        @tim heard the Auckland Mitre 10 cup head coaching job which was supposed to be announced a couple of weeks back has been put on hold due to Auckland Rugby conducting a full audit across the whole organisation.
                        Apparently along with Nick White,Assistant Bevan Cadwallander and team Manager Lewis McLintock from this years management have all been gased.

                        I had heard that former All Black,Canterbury & Crusaders prop Dave Hewitt had applied for the job.
                        Would not be bad option in my opinion,might bring some ethic from the Saders region.

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                        • S Steven Harris

                          @tim heard the Auckland Mitre 10 cup head coaching job which was supposed to be announced a couple of weeks back has been put on hold due to Auckland Rugby conducting a full audit across the whole organisation.
                          Apparently along with Nick White,Assistant Bevan Cadwallander and team Manager Lewis McLintock from this years management have all been gased.

                          I had heard that former All Black,Canterbury & Crusaders prop Dave Hewitt had applied for the job.
                          Would not be bad option in my opinion,might bring some ethic from the Saders region.

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                          @steven-harris Wow. Hope they can make an announcement soon.

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                          • S Steven Harris

                            @tim heard the Auckland Mitre 10 cup head coaching job which was supposed to be announced a couple of weeks back has been put on hold due to Auckland Rugby conducting a full audit across the whole organisation.
                            Apparently along with Nick White,Assistant Bevan Cadwallander and team Manager Lewis McLintock from this years management have all been gased.

                            I had heard that former All Black,Canterbury & Crusaders prop Dave Hewitt had applied for the job.
                            Would not be bad option in my opinion,might bring some ethic from the Saders region.

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                            @steven-harris That's interesting. Dave Hewitt is now the interim head coach of the Canadian national team.

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                              @tim heard the Auckland Mitre 10 cup head coaching job which was supposed to be announced a couple of weeks back has been put on hold due to Auckland Rugby conducting a full audit across the whole organisation.
                              Apparently along with Nick White,Assistant Bevan Cadwallander and team Manager Lewis McLintock from this years management have all been gased.

                              I had heard that former All Black,Canterbury & Crusaders prop Dave Hewitt had applied for the job.
                              Would not be bad option in my opinion,might bring some ethic from the Saders region.

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                              @steven-harris I would be shocked if a Cantab ever applied for a coaching gig with us.

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                                Blues leadership guided by Pulu for 2018 Super Rugby season

                                Halfback Augustine Pulu will captain the Blues in the 2018 Investec Super Rugby Championships.

                                Coach Tana Umaga said Pulu, along with previous captains Jerome Kaino and James Parsons, form part of the senior leadership group.

                                “Both James and Jerome are sidelined for some time from surgeries and I wanted our captain to take the reins on the paddock from day one of training.

                                “Of course both James and Jerome will continue to play invaluable leadership roles in this team and will be key contributors in all aspects.

                                “Augie has proven captaincy experience in the Mitre-10 Cup and will add a fresh spark to the team.”

                                Pulu has played 64 games in Super Rugby as well as representing New Zealand in Sevens at the Rio Olympics and has two All Black caps.

                                “It’s an honour to lead a club like the Blues. We have a good bunch of guys returning and some exciting new players coming in,” said Pulu. “With the help of the leadership group, I want to mould them into a strong team.

                                “I think we have made real progress in my time here and hope I can do my job as a player and as a captain for the Blues.

                                “We have to work so hard every day, on and off the field. I believe we can win the Super Rugby title – that’s my goal for the team.”

                                The Blues also announced that Ben Afeaki, the former New Zealand Maoris and All Black prop, has been appointed as scrum coach. He has enjoyed that role for North Harbour in the Mitre 10 Cup.

                                Four young players, all part of the Blues Under-20s and selected for the New Zealand Under-20 training squad, join the Blues for 10 weeks fulltime training as part of the Interim Training Contract scheme. They are Rob Cobb, Hoskins Sotutu, Harry Plummer and Tanielu Tele’a.

                                There are a further nine players who have joined as replacements for injured or for All Blacks and Maori All Blacks who are staged back into Super Rugby in January. The eight are Marcel Renata (Auckland), Ross Wright (Northland), Jacob Pierce (Auckland), Antonio Kirikiri (Manawatu), Lewis Gjaltema (North Harbour), Orbyn Leger (Counties Manukau), Sione Havili (Auckland) and Jordan Hyland (Northland).

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                                  Tim
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                                  Great to see they have picked up Orbyn Leger.

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                                    Pulu strikes me as someone with a bit of a discipline problem, and often seems to have bad rapport with refs. Would be well down my list of potential captains.

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                                      Pulu strikes me as someone with a bit of a discipline problem, and often seems to have bad rapport with refs. Would be well down my list of potential captains.

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                                      taniwharugby
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                                      #161

                                      @wurzel not to mention his form was hardly compelling enough to warrant guaranteed starts...I guess the only consolation is that neither back up 9 are probably pushing hard enough to press claims to start, but if they do, it makes it harder to drop your captain.

                                      Wasn't Parsons captain last year?

                                      Interesting to see Wright there, I had heard he was being looked at as injury cover in another franchise, but still great news for him, 2017 been a huge year for the 31 year old who debuted for Northland in 2009.

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                                        #162

                                        One of the podcasts talked about Pulu earlier this year. Their "inside word" was that Pulu was good at maintaining standards off the field, and that the attitude of the Blues' All Blacks wasn't great when they returned to the squad after the Lions series, with Pulu being one of the few who would have the "mana"/character to stand-up to those players and correct the attitude. Parsons might be too nice to be able to do that.

                                        Wouldn't be my choice as on-field captain though.

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                                          Im a bigger fan of Pulu than most. He's not a conventional 9 but he's a bloody good rugby player.

                                          Having a decent 10 outside him might help too.

                                          Parsons was ok as captain but i'm happy with the change.

                                          Excellent to see the young guns Plummer etc training with the squad over preseason and the replacement pickups look tidy too - Orbyn Ledger in particular.

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