Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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I think the idea here may be stretching things a bit far but still, an interesting view
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@crucial the letter to millenials may be stretching it a bit, but i had already decided the theme of this movie was "the best laid schemes of mice and men gang aft a-gley"
seriously, it's a movie where NO ONE'S plans work out. And there are a lot of them
We'll let the Dreadnaught bomb them the fuck out. shit
We'll bomb this Dreadnaught. fuck everyone's dead
We'll jump to hyperspace and we'll be all good. hey wait
We can track them through hyperspace, they are fucked. or not
We'll just follow until they run out of fuel. they can hide from us?
We'll blow up the transports. what is that other ship doing?
We can turn off the tracker! wait we got ratted out
We'll slip away and no one will notice. we got ratted out
We'll send a signal, help will come. Or not
I'm going to kill Luke Skywalker. Or not
Luke will train me. Luke seems a little grumpy.
I can turn Ren. Okay i just made him the boss
Everything has happened by my design, now i have Rey. Fuck I'm dead.The only dude whose plan worked is Luke, and he had to fucking die for it. This entire movie is about failure, and not meeting expectation.
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@mariner4life said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@crucial the letter to millenials may be stretching it a bit, but i had already decided the theme of this movie was "the best laid schemes of mice and men gang aft a-gley"
seriously, it's a movie where NO ONE'S plans work out. And there are a lot of them
We'll let the Dreadnaught bomb them the fuck out. shit
We'll bomb this Dreadnaught. fuck everyone's dead
We'll jump to hyperspace and we'll be all good. hey wait
We can track them through hyperspace, they are fucked. or not
We'll just follow until they run out of fuel. they can hide from us?
We'll blow up the transports. what is that other ship doing?
We can turn off the tracker! wait we got ratted out
We'll slip away and no one will notice. we got ratted out
We'll send a signal, help will come. Or not
I'm going to kill Luke Skywalker. Or not
Luke will train me. Luke seems a little grumpy.
I can turn Ren. Okay i just made him the boss
Everything has happened by my design, now i have Rey. Fuck I'm dead.The only dude whose plan worked is Luke, and he had to fucking die for it. This entire movie is about failure, and not meeting expectation.
This is such a top quality rant.
At the end of the day it's Star Wars. Flawed but awesome.
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@mn5 it's honestly not a rant, it's just an observation. As you say, it's Star Wars, of course it's flawed.
I just thought this one had a different tone, because normally the good guys' plan works out, even as the bad guys doesn't. In this film, we had a departure (as crucial's article says) and even the good guys' plans don't work.
Come on, hands up, who was expecting the tracker dismantling plan to succeed in the nick of time?
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@tim said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
What did the chinese uggo symbolise?
It’s in the last line of M4ls rant , failure. Rei realised Finn was a twat- he failed to convince her otherwise long enough to get laid . He settled for Jabba the Eurasian instead.
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@mariner4life said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 it's honestly not a rant, it's just an observation. As you say, it's Star Wars, of course it's flawed.
I just thought this one had a different tone, because normally the good guys' plan works out, even as the bad guys doesn't. In this film, we had a departure (as crucial's article says) and even the good guys' plans don't work.
Come on, hands up, who was expecting the tracker dismantling plan to succeed in the nick of time?
In previous ones the good guys plans don't work either though. I'm fairly sure Han didn't think he'd leave Cloud City frozen in carbonate after all.
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@mn5 the bad guys plan was to catch Luke. or kill him. He escapes, alive, that's a win. The Rebel fleet is safe. And they know where Han is. ESB isn't "the bad guys win this one". The Rebels end the movie in pretty good shape, with their spiritual leader, and their major weapon both safe as houses.
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@mariner4life said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 the bad guys plan was to catch Luke. or kill him. He escapes, alive, that's a win. The Rebel fleet is safe. And they know where Han is. ESB isn't "the bad guys win this one". The Rebels end the movie in pretty good shape, with their spiritual leader, and their major weapon both safe as houses.
Well yeah but he was handless and traumatised. Its everyone's favourite movie, mine included but it did end on a downer. After all there was no guarantee they were gonna find Han safe and sound....
Speaking of which the standalone flick is due out in May. So basically four movies in less than four years. What a time to be alive.
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Saw TLJ on New Years Eve at London's IMAX at Waterloo, bloody good night.
Was surprised by the storyline, I thought it was a huge improvement on TFA especially after a work colleague saw TLJ and couldn't get into where the story went.
Enjoyed the fight scenes immensely; the Emperors Royal Guard hand-to-hand combat stuff was well choreographed and looked strenuous for all the actors involved. Kylo Ren has grown on me since TFA. Thought he and Rey seemed more comfortable with their characters and where they were going. Part of me wanted to shout Death to the Resistance! Death to the First Order! Let a new alliance begin! The legacy lives on....
All followed up with the worlds biggest steak and ale pasty, coffee and then on to a round of beers. How good can a new years eve night get? -
Took the boys again.
Much like the Emperor did in ROTJ Snoke clearly got caught up in his own hubris and paid the price when a less powerful but possibly more aware pupil put an end to him. I wonder which of them is actually more powerful, Palpatine or Snoke? Seeing bits of him lying around was pretty graphic for Star Wars. I never realised it sliced his hands off too.
How many Red Guards were there? Boys and I figured anywhere between 8 and 10.
Both Rey and Ren have grown massively in power in a short time. It's pretty clear to me no one else in the saga apart from Leia has force powers, I'm assuming more will be unearthed for the next movie.
I also didn't realise how big those new walkers are. There were a couple of normal AT ATs next to them and they looked like terriers beside a bunch of Great Danes.
Poe is a terrible actor but Finn and Rose are way more annoying. Benicio Del whathisnames character is so pointless it's not funny.
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Saw it again tonight. Have completely changed my opinion, and now i love it. The theming, symbolism and acting are fucking great. Some very nice shots too.
Adam Driver fucking kills it.
The bits i loved the first time i still love. The bits i hated seem inconsequential now.
Its a very brave movie and I'm genuinely excited to see the conclusion
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@mariner4life said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Saw it again tonight. Have completely changed my opinion, and now i love it. The theming, symbolism and acting are fucking great. Some very nice shots too.
Adam Driver fucking kills it.
The bits i loved the first time i still love. The bits i hated seem inconsequential now.
Its a very brave movie and I'm genuinely excited to see the conclusion
Acting????? Did you not see Poes performance? He's terrible.
Actually to be fair most of the rest were very good.
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Seen it again recently too, enjoy it more with each viewing. There are some truly great moments that are better and better with each viewing.
It’s Star Wars so it’s never going to be perfect but with 3 new chapters done too date I couldn’t be happier with how the makers are going.Can’t wait for Solo in a few months,
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I saw it a week or so back and thought it was average. Overly long, sht scenes that were worse than what the prequels had, completely stupid sht like Leia floating through space etc. I was supposed to go see it a second time but there is no way I can sit through (and pay) that again.
Was good to see Adam Driver put in a way better performance and the rolling droid was good value.
I was pretty gutted overall as I really enjoyed the last two leading up to this.
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@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mariner4life said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Saw it again tonight. Have completely changed my opinion, and now i love it. The theming, symbolism and acting are fucking great. Some very nice shots too.
Adam Driver fucking kills it.
The bits i loved the first time i still love. The bits i hated seem inconsequential now.
Its a very brave movie and I'm genuinely excited to see the conclusion
Acting????? Did you not see Poes performance? He's terrible.
Actually to be fair most of the rest were very good.
I think you're working on the theory the more times you say it then it will become true ... it's not, Isaac was fine.
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@nepia said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mn5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@mariner4life said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Saw it again tonight. Have completely changed my opinion, and now i love it. The theming, symbolism and acting are fucking great. Some very nice shots too.
Adam Driver fucking kills it.
The bits i loved the first time i still love. The bits i hated seem inconsequential now.
Its a very brave movie and I'm genuinely excited to see the conclusion
Acting????? Did you not see Poes performance? He's terrible.
Actually to be fair most of the rest were very good.
I think you're working on the theory the more times you say it then it will become true ... it's not, Isaac was fine.
Wrong, he was shit. He's a better character than Finn and Rose though.
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